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| nancy |
Posted - 02/13/2007 : 00:43:26
Has anyone had any success (or not) with curaderm or cansema black salve? |
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| mcnjnj |
Posted - 08/22/2010 : 15:26:09
I had a BSC on my right cheek for a couple of years. I tried ascorbic acid for a few days, but gave up on that. Then I tried Cansema for a while and the BSC seemed to disappear completely, but in 2 weeks it was back and then grew rapidly. It eventually grew to about 1-1/2 inches in diameter (originally it was 3/8 inch in diameter). It now was also 3 dimensional, but it was hard to measure the height. So I started with the Cansema (with DMSO this time)again. Since it was so much larger now than the first time, it was quite painful, especially at night when I was trying to sleep. I didn't use any type of pain killer, however. When the BSC became roughly flush with the surface of the skin, I switched to Curaderm and used that for 12 weeks. There was a burning sensation that only lasted for 15 minutes after each application. What an improvement over Cansema! (with Cansema the pain lasted all night) The progress in reducing the BSC size was steady and unrelenting. Now there is no sign of the BSC - no scar, no pain; the skin looks normal. In my opinion this is a wonderful product! |
| dolphinsrsmart |
Posted - 06/13/2010 : 12:55:25
quote:
Originally posted by nancy
Has anyone had any success (or not) with curaderm or cansema black salve?
Yes, I've used curaderm (back when you could get it from England) and it worked great. I used it on a small nodule on my stomach, it was about 5 mm, and it flaked off in about 2 or 3 days. VERY fast working stuff. I gave the rest of it to a friend diagnosed with skin cancer. |
| Dquixote1217 |
Posted - 03/14/2009 : 00:55:57
Speaking of someone losing their nose, OUCH Bloodroot1 !!! - that had to hurt! Looks to me like you just bit your own nose off to spite your face by attacking Greg Caton and Alpha Omega labs when you are one of the well known villians involved in the pirating of their products and outing them to the FDA. I have been following Alpha Omega Labs for a long time and know that what you posted is pure fabrication. I also know that thousands have been helped by their products and that they enjoy the respect and admiration of a very large body of the alternative health community.
Did you really think you could get away with posting such bull on an alternative health website? Here's another clue for you Toby, you won't win a whole lot of points on such sites bragging about how your products are approved by the FDA either. And if I were you I wouldn't bring up the part about your association with Kevin Trudeau or the discredited FDA agent either.
Maybe you should try Quackwatch - now, they won't like your products if they really work and compete with anything their mainstream medicine masters market but they will happily post anything critical of other alternative health products and companies regardless of the whether the products work or not. |
| Cathryn_Caton |
Posted - 03/13/2009 : 17:29:42
My name is Cathryn Caton.
My husband created Cansema -- and its predecessor versions in the early 1990's, including HerbVeil 8 and Formula G.
My husband documents the facts on the entire history of escharotic preparations in his online book, Meditopia (www.meditopia.org). We are the holders of the registered trademark of Cansema in the United States and Ecuador.
I am writing because the preceeding post contains so many provable lies that it simply cannot go unanswered. Many posters hide their identity. I never do. The preceeding post was written by Toby McAdams, who was a distributor of Alpha Omega Labs up until 2003. At no time did McAdams ever make anything that Alpha Omega Labs sold. It never happened. What he DID do was pirate our webpages, artwork, tradenames -- all of which can be verified by comparing our webpages on the Wayback Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org).
We have received so many complaints from former customers of Toby McAdams' sites, www.bloodrootproducts.com and www.risingsunhealth.com, that we had to create a Compensation Program to address all those who had been injured. We discuss the particulars on the Alpha Omega Labs website (www.altcancer.com). He states that we are not allowed to ship into the United States. NONSENSE. We ship into the United States every single working day and I can prove it.
If anyone wants to consult with me on any of these issues, I'm easy to find. Our number is (305) 851-2308 ... or you can continue to have faith in scamsters who make a living by attempting to copy other people's work and posting unsubstantiatable claims on bulletin boards, hoping the original principals and targets of their theft don't find out and respond with provable facts.
Cathryn Caton, N.D.
Alpha Omega Labs
Guayaquil, ECUADOR
Makers / Inventors of Cansema (1994-2009)
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| bloodroot1 |
Posted - 03/12/2009 : 18:06:54
We supplied Alpha Omega Labs with the Cansema black salves. At ome time we made most for their products. I quit sellng to them. Greg was putting sulphuric acid in the black salve, that is what caused the woman to lose her nose. Grag Caton is a con and fraud and his products do not have the ingredients that he states are on the label. As for www.risingsunhealth.com and www.bloodrootproducts.com they have the real salves and there is no flour in the salve. Additionally, both companies were visited by the FDA and are still open. Unlike Greg Caton and Alpha Omega labs whom are wanted by the FDA and numerous others. Be prepared if you buy products from Alpha Omega Labs, you may be visited by the FDA for purchasing products that are banned. Alpha Omega Labs is banned from selling products in the US because of the dangerous and toxic ingredients used. Most companies in the US that sell the same type of products follow protocols. |
| pegmih |
Posted - 12/25/2008 : 11:53:46
Three weeks ago I had MOHS surgery to remove SCC on my leg. I really babied myself & stayed off my feet as much as possible. It is healing nicely and I would have the procedure again if necessary.
Doc said I was lucky my insurance covered it. Medicare does not cover MOHS below the neck.
Since I was somewhat housebond, I used Efudex on my chest. Very uncomfortable for 2 weeks, but area is now nearly back to normal.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS |
| james |
Posted - 12/23/2008 : 12:20:06
Jeff,
While Mohs surgery is considered the gold standard by dermatologists, many people on here have had one or more surgeries to remove skin cancer only to see it reoccur soon after. Since most people don't want to have scars all over their bodies they try to find alternative methods to deal with the skin cancer as well as answers as to why they keep getting cancer in the first place. This was the reasoning that led me to this site and probably led others here as well.
People come here to learn and debate on various treatments they have tried or are about to try and to talk about some of the factors that can increase your chances of getting skin cancer, outside of the common belief that the sun causes it. I know in my case that my doctor only told me to keep putting on sunscreen for protection but I have learned there is way more to it than that. And guess what, I followed her advice and had a reoccurence that I am currently dealing with.
I am thankful to Dan for this site and to other natural health sites for allowing me to learn more about skin cancer prevention and good health in general. While it is helpful for you to post links regarding various treatments that are being discussed it is not helpful for you to just give a blanket statement of 'Get Mohs surgery'. Many have been there, done that, and don't want to do it again. |
| Jeff921 |
Posted - 12/22/2008 : 21:40:25
Before using a salve, look at the following web site which pictures a woman who used the black salve and ended up having her nose and half her face slough off.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html
Get Mohs surgery. Use a plastic surgeon for closure.
Period. |
| tarbabby |
Posted - 09/23/2008 : 09:49:04
I have purchased my cansema from omega labs and there is no bloodroot,I see that there is a name Greg Caton on the jar.
I think that wherever you apply this stuff it will have a major reaction and create an area that you body will discharge(zinc chloride),here are the ingredients of the cansema that I purchased,zinc chloride,chaparral,galanga,graviola leaf and glycerine.
I would like to hear from anyone who has used this same product and the outcome of the time frame in which it worked,I have had an area that I had treated one week ago and there is a white outside ring and clear liquid coming out and a scab in the middle,but nothing pushing out yet,am I too impatient or what?I put the cansema on and left it on for the full 24 hours and am now waiting for the ?? |
| drbeckl2 |
Posted - 09/13/2008 : 21:42:02
Hay GoldeNGlitz and canfree:
Where did you buy any cansema at ???????
Are you sure you did not buy the IMITATION cansema from the Indian guy, or whoever ???? [rising Sun Health] ................ maybe that's why yor black salve doesn't work. !!!!
The U.S. government siezed all the cansema salve about 5 years ago, and thru the owner in prison. ....Alpha Omega Labs: manufacturer of alternative health care products... he eventually got out, so now he is in south america, and does not sell cansema in the USA., until a few weeks ago. The original cansema salve people say that the fake cansema salve sold by the Indian guy is not worthy to use. It is sub-standard.
quote:
" -- the "Cansema" being shipped by Toby McAdams (bloodroot products .com and risingsunhealth.com).
I tasted the product for authenticity. (I have formulated so many zinc-based escharotics that on organoleptics alone I can identify the presence of zinc chloride and one or more hydroquinone-based herbal components).
I was shocked.
The product was nothing more vegetable oil, flour, and culinary spices."
Go to the original cansema website and click on "updates", or etc. and let theim tell you why. http://www.altcancer.com/
So, from wom did you buy a product called cansema ????
thanks, ......
-----------------from their website---------------------------
http://www.altcancer.com/
Alpha Omega Labs
Reopens in Ecuador
August, 2008: We reopened Alpha Omega Labs on June 2, 2008 and now are accepting orders for the first time since the FDA raid and shutdown on September 17, 2003. All product will be shipped from Guayaquil, Ecuador -- at very competitive rates and delivery schedules.
Since we are able to provide a comparable product list for Cansema® Salve, CanSupport, PhytoRx, Old Amish Dewormer, Neem and Acemannan products from other vendors, we will now not be shipping these products into the United States. We will continue to ship our other available products into the United States, with the exception of H3O.
Products can be ordered from our sister site, Ecuador Passion Fruit, which markets passion fruit products in consumer and bulk size for shipment worldwide.
Our product line-up now consists of roughly 150 of the more than 350 product items (or SKU's) we carried at the time of the raid. Approximately 40 additional products (including products from our old order form) are planned for release in the next 60 days.
Inquiries can be made at our email support page.
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Fake Product Compensation Program Announced
The success of AO Lab products in the alternative health care community is well-established. (A Google search for Cansema® yields over 9,000 pages . . . it takes several hours just to read our four web pages of customer testimonials connected to Cansema®).
There is no success that does not attract opportunistic imitators. The legal attack against AO Labs by the FDA in 2003 attracted several such imitators. Because Cansema® has been in use since we created it in 1992 and we are the holder of the U.S. trademark, we sent polite letters to various violators to cease and desist in using our web pages, copyrighted material, and trademarks.
Our pleas have been ignored.
The most serious aspect of these violations is that the imitations don't work as well, if they work at all. They are not the original product. For a period of four years, we attempted to work with the FDA to put a stop to the fraud. We even sent them a small sampling of the hundreds of complaint letters we received.
They did nothing.
Because of the adulteration and misbranding involved in the McAdams operation -- whose primary sites are Bloodroot Products.com and RisingSun Health.com -- we can only assume that this is an FDA renegade operation is to permit, foster, and protect illegal product. By working less effectively, they will hopefully convince people that alternatives are inferior to mainstream pharmaceuticals. This would make perfectly good sense and is consistent with their overall modus operandi, as documented in numerous books by Lynne McTaggart, Leonard Horowitz, John Abramson, Joseph Mercola, John Morgenthaler -- to name just a few.
Please see our Compensation for Fake Product page if you have purchased product from the following or any other companies illegally using our trademarks, Cansema®, CanSupport (TM), Alpha Omega Labs (TM), or our domain names: altcancer.com (TM), herbhealers.com (TM), or alphaomegalabs.com (TM).
BloodrootProducts.com
RisingSunProducts.com
AltCancerCream.com
Jennifer Wilson (Australia)
George S. Ackerson
(FDA informant)
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http://www.altcancer.com/compensation_for_fake_product.htm
Fake Cansema: Vegetable Oil, Flour, and Spice
On August 24, 2004, I had to report to federal court in Lafayette, Louisiana, for my sentencing hearing. At the hearing I had two witnesses who came to testify on my behalf. (This -- in addition to the hundreds of testimonials we gave to my attorney, Lewis Unglesby, of which he had given about 20 to the court). One of the two witnesses present was a medical doctor with extensive experience in the use of Cansema® (Edwards Smith, M.D. -- in fact, his own grandfather, also a medical doctor, had privately used escharotics in the early 20th century to treat cancers -- evidenced by formulas he left after he passed on).
Before the hearing -- a gut wrenching experience in which I was sentenced to 33 months in prison -- we all sat down to breakfast at a Lafayette restaurant. At that meeting, I was presented with the jar you see above -- the "Cansema" being shipped by Toby McAdams (bloodroot products .com and risingsunhealth.com).
I tasted the product for authenticity. (I have formulated so many zinc-based escharotics that on organoleptics alone I can identify the presence of zinc chloride and one or more hydroquinone-based herbal components).
I was shocked.
The product was nothing more vegetable oil, flour, and culinary spices.
Over the next four years, the personnel at my one remaining manufacturing company (Lumen Foods - soybean.com) wrote numerous letters and made untold phone calls to officials all throughout the FDA concerning this adulterated (i.e. contains ingredients rendering it unfit for its intended purpose) and misbranded (i.e. contains ingredients other than what is listed on the label) -- an aggregious violation of 21 U.S.C.A. § 301 et seq. [1938].
Above and beyond the FDA issues was the consumer fraud. Specifically, many of the complaint letters we received had to do with credit cards being charged for product that was never shipped; non-response after repeated attempts to get a proper refund; and attempts to avoid the consumer after the sale.
After years of seeking a solution and then seeing that a "fig leaf Warning Letter" sent out in April, 2006, was intended never to be enforced, I and my staff came to the one inexorable conclusion -- namely, that the FDA never intended to enforce the law as it pertained to Toby.
It is with this background that after 6 years -- (we later learned that his illegal activities as it pertains to Cansema actually began in the fall of 2002) -- that we realized that unless this activity was made public and effort was made on our behalf to compensate the victims, no proper resolution would ever happen.
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[/b]Critical to the destruction of AO Labs in the United States was the coordinated involvement of my former associate, Kevin Trudeau -- of late-night informercial fame -- and George Ackerson,[/b] a former associate who bragged to associates about his role after my imprisonment. (Additionally, the DOJ prosecutor in my case, Larry Regan, identified George Ackerson to me in language so descriptive that his identity was unmistakeable.)
George Sylvester Ackerson After my imprisonment in September, 2003, Ackerson went about the business of setting up imitation Alpha Omega Labs companies with two of our former distributors -- first, in the form of working with Toby McAdams to copy all of our materials; and then working with Jennifer Wilson of Drake, Australia, to copy our company name and all our materials. To this day, Jennifer Wilson produces Cansema with the same name, same material -- even the type style of Cansema (i.e. Cooper Black) is identical.
To help identify the source of the counterfeit materials she is producing with George Ackerson's aid, I post her contact information below:
Jennifer Wilson
C.M.B., Drake NSW
2469 Australia
Phone: + 02 6737 6767 (mobile)
+ 61 4040150 671
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Introduction: When the FDA closed down Alpha Omega Labs on September 17, 2003, not only was a extensive lab operation and nearly all its raw materials and inventory destroyed, but so was the opportunity to protect its most valuable asset of all: its reputation and trademarks -- the value of which had been carefully nurtured with life-saving formulas for over a decade.
FBI Warning We believe the evidence is extensive and compelling that in the aftermath of the destruction of our U.S. facility, renegade forces lead by FDA agent, John Armand, encouraged select parties to use our trademarks and put out adulterated and misbranded product. The goal was simple and straight-forward --- Cansema®, by that time, had cured so many thousands of people of cancer that a decision was made to allow other co-opted entities to make different products using our trademarks -- products pre-designed not to work. Our offices received hundreds of complaint letters from Sept., 2003, to March, 2007 (when our flagship company, Lumen Foods [soybean.com] was sold). We forwarded these complaints to the FDA. When the FDA finally sent Toby a Warning Letter in April, 2006 -- Toby did nothing for nearly two and a half years, and then finally made minor bandaid alterations in August, 2008. Ironically, the complaints in the FDA's Warning Letter are virtually the same as those used to destroy Alpha Omega Labs.
No one can so blatantly ignore "Warning Letters" from the FDA unless the agency never intends to enforce them.
The only way that we can compensate individuals who have ordered "our" products under fraudulent pretense -- all with the knowledge and help of the FDA -- is to compensate by making the real products available at a dramatically reduced price. If the FDA were not a active party in the theft of our intellectual property, we would have legal remedies, but they have shown themselves to only be helpful in ensuring that we cannot protect our own U.S. trademarks.
How The Program Works
The following table indicates what products are available, and at what reduced price.
Code Description Regular
Price Program
Price
800 Cansema® Black Salve - 22 g. $ 24.95 $ 9.95
800X Cansema® Black Salve - 102 g. $ 59.95 $ 15.95
800D Cansema® Salve Deep Tissue - 22 g. $ 24.95 $ 9.95
800DX Cansema® Salve Deep Tissue - 102 g. $ 59.95 $ 15.95
800K Cansema® Salve With Iodine - 22 g. $ 24.95 $ 9.95
800KX Cansema® Salve With Iodine - 102 g. $ 59.95 $ 15.95
800V Cansema® Salve
for Cats, Dogs & Horses - 22 g. $ 24.95 $ 9.95
800VX Cansema® Salve
for Cats, Dogs & Horses - 102 g. $ 59.95 $ 15.95
803 Cansema® Tonic III - 236 ml. $ 59.95 $ 14.95
800VX Cansema® Salve
for Cats, Dogs & Horses - 102 g. $ 59.95 $ 15.95
A special Fake Product Compensation Program Order Form has been created on our sister site. On this page you place your order, just like you would on our regular order page. It doesn't matter where in the world you are, as long as you meet the other requirements.
This program ends December 31, 2008, and carries two requirements:
1. You must fill out Fake Product Questionnaire -- (which takes approximately 3 minutes). Included in this Questionnaire is a statement by you that at the time of the alleged purchase of the fake product, you believed you were purchasing the original formula. (We know you're out there, because we've gotten hundreds of emails ourselves).
2. You must email an invoice or other proof of purchase as a file attachment to support@altcancer.com -- or fax it, toll-free, to (888) 450-7909 -- or mail your document(s) to the Miami address below. Note that to be eligible for this program, your purchase must clearly represent a violation of one of our trademarks: Cansema®, CanSupport (TM), or Alpha Omega Labs --- regardless of how the words are spelled. They only have to be phonetically similar such that the intent of the provider is to deceive the consumer.
3. OPTIONAL: We are requesting -- but not making mandatory because availability may be an issue -- that those taking part in this program send us what is left of the original "fake product" to either our U.S. or Ecuadorean mailbox:
Herbologics, Ltd.
8345 NW 66th Street, #7093
Miami, FL 33166-2626
Herbologics, S.A.
Casilla 09-04-99 P
Guayaquil, Ecuador
4. Then place your order.
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| canfree |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 03:44:44
I used cansema for my moles that had skin cancer and it worked perfect. But I wouldn't recommend it on a non cancerous mole. For non cancerous moles, try the itworkspaste it works like a charm for moles, warts, skin tags, and agespots. |
| Gold n Glitz |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 18:20:17
I have had numerous SCC's, all being surgically removed, some with skin grafts. I heard about Cansema and was delighted. Bought the past applied it to a fresh SCC and it half worked. Applied it to another fresh SCC that had only recently been removed surgically but had reappeared and nothing has happened. I have it applied it several times. I think it would be fair to say that whilst this works for the majority it should be stated that it can still be a skin cancer if it does not work. Most of the sites say if the salve does not work it is not a skin cancer, this is untrue and could be misleading to many. Jacque |
| fforest |
Posted - 09/23/2007 : 16:26:03
For people thinking of using a bloodroot paste,for more than just a small spot.Please see my bloodroot pain management post..
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=68 |
| acm |
Posted - 09/22/2007 : 23:33:51
Hello , i just wanted to say that i have used cansema black cell paste and i was very impressed. I tested it on clear skin as a control and nothing happened. But on the weird little lump i had it started reacting staight away. Within 2 days the size of the site trippled as the cansema went to work finding all the cancer cells. After 7 days the lump fell out- quite gross looking but it was like i had a crater left in my head were it fell out and i was honostly worried about how it would heal. But the day that it fell out it just sort of scabbed over and filled in- now there is just a tiny little scar from where it was. I am now using it again on my back on a freckle gone wrong. It also has reacted within the first day and the site is double what i thought it would be- kinda scary when u think whats under the skin. I highly recommend it !! if it saves lifes why not. At least give it a go and test it for yourself if u are doubtfull of natural products. I have come across people who wont even try it when the doc has pretty much said u need kemo ? SO i just think well if your goin to die whats it goin to hurt trying somthing eles ? i wish people would have more infomation about these products because i have seen lots of people have huge scars or died over skin cancer, and its just a very sad waste of those people's lifes |
| bltw2 |
Posted - 06/25/2007 : 01:15:11
My understanding is that you can't get Xxterra without a vets prescription. Any information about that? |
| fforest |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 16:41:43
Great photos..Not to much scaring,nice job...In a few months the dents should fill in..... |
| anivoc |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 10:45:54
Proof of the pudding...
Yes bloodroot is painful. I'm tough, have a high threshold for pain but it is painful.
Here are pictures of my experience using XXterra on some facial basal cell skin cancers.. a bit gross so viewer be warned..
http://public.fotki.com/Anivoc/xxterra/ |
| fforest |
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 15:47:11
Saying bloodroot treatment is painful is the understatment of the year....It really works but know this stuff will make you feel very sick if you put to much on...You can just forget about going to work or having a life if you put a lot on at once........ |
| anivoc |
Posted - 03/22/2007 : 14:53:07
I have had some success with both Bloodroot paste type products XXTERRA
and with Curaderm
The jury is out with curaderm for me.. I have been using it on 2 problem areas and one seemed to be better but is recurring now the other..which did have scar tissue from a bloodroot treatment that didn't "get it" all seems to be taking forever to get to the point where I think it is "done" or "got"
I have several serious basal skin cancers that have been whooped with bloodroot.. but it is painful, scaring and ugly.
Totally as good as having the surgeons knife away though and probably just as good or better scaring results |
| Rosalita |
Posted - 03/02/2007 : 01:53:15
t seems like there are some new ways of treating skin cancer (non surgical & natural). ..
I found this informative slide show on skin cancer treatment. Takes about a minute to watch..
http://www.filmloop.com/cgi-bin/bv/bv.py?ticket=EwSwq7cp6SgGjX02wDRW/Brn4L6y8HJZ&flash=1&extAds=1&px=FL
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| dan |
Posted - 02/13/2007 : 01:00:03
The Life Extension Foundation has a forum at http://forum.lef.org. Under the heading of "Topicals" and then "treatments for skin cancer" are a few testimonials. Included are topical skin cancer treatments curaderm (BEC5), Efudex (FU5), bloodroot, and vitamin C with coconut oil. (Please come back here!)
Curaderm appears to work in similar fashion to FU5. |
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