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Barbara Posted - 07/14/2008 : 12:11:00
Has anyone had success with Curaderm? I want to order it but do not want to spend over 100- if it doesn't really work -thanks in advance
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dan Posted - 09/21/2019 : 12:21:24
Hi Spirogirl,

Welcome! It looks like Curaderm is working, so that is great. Thanks also for sharing what didn't work for you.

Here are a couple of other things to also consider trying. The first is iodine (Lugol's or nascent) orally perhaps using simultaneously with Curaderm. Iodine will help to raise pH. https://www.drbrownstein.com/iodine-why-you-need-it-p/iodine.htm There is a large iodine thread here too http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=409

I also like mixing in other topical treatments. Topical household ammonia or a baking soda paste raises the pH of skin for several hours which fights the acidic metabolism of cancer cells. You can try adding aloe vera and pancreatin topically. I consider circulating pancreatic enzymes to be the body's main defense against cancers, which is why intermittent fasting is a good idea for freeing up the enzymes from digestive tasks to cancer fighting tasks. Pancreatic enzymes work best at a pH near 9 so they are helped by the ammonia or baking soda paste.

Another idea to consider trying is using orange oil (d-limonene) topically. Orange oil penetrates skin well, provides a stinging sensation (lasts for 25 minutes) that gives information on the extent of the cancer remaining, and has lots of anticancer properties with studies supporting it. https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/d-limonene
Spirogirl Posted - 09/20/2019 : 22:59:54
Hi everybody. I'm new to this forum. I've read everything on here but having trouble finding advice on the treatment of my upper lip. I have a BCC along the vermillion line in the center. I have tried the homemade eggplant and vinegar treatment, Castor oil, and Frankincense oil, but no improvement. I started curaderm three weeks ago, applied for 2 weeks, and then had to take a week break to let it calm down because it was so painful and deep. It is an open deep lesion, a "rat bite" hole and the curaderm is definitely eating away the nodular spots most aggressively. I started again a few days ago and it went right back to work. The cream is so thick it's hard to fill up the hole, so I have been mixing with a few drops of water to smear it in there. After restarting, it hurts less but still burns.
I figure that the Mohs surgeon would cut away most of my upper lip and so anything that curaderm eats away would have been cut out anyway. It will be my last resort- but if I can kick this thing with the curaderm and keep my lip, that would be really great.
Has anyone else used curaderm on their lip? Did it go deep? Did it work? I'd love to get some thoughts from you all! THANKS!
Dougrun Posted - 10/14/2018 : 19:07:01
just finished my 2nd treatment with curaderm, all closed up and looks great. Also treated an AK on my cheek with it in 4 days.
NYArtist Posted - 10/02/2018 : 07:46:13
Thank you for describing this product which I had never heard of. I went to Amazon to read the reviews and they are wonderful. Thank you again. I'm going to order some of these for sunspots on my face and arms.
Eddie_T Posted - 10/01/2018 : 20:38:20
The cancer returned in early 2018. I applied Flonida 5% (Efudex) until eruption then switched to Sunspot ES. I have been applying Sunspot ES for about 6 months following Curaderm instructions. For the past six weeks or so there are only some very small pits around the perimeter that are still weeping but I am going to continue until no more weeping this time. I may have stopped too early in the past.
Eddie_T Posted - 11/14/2017 : 22:25:03
My crater seems to be healing so I am switching from Sunspot and Curaderm to EMT GEL to promote healing.
Eddie_T Posted - 11/01/2017 : 21:34:56
I had posted on the Efudex thread that the ulcer on my forehead left by Efudex had healed with the use of Curaderm. About a week ago one edge felt a bit scaly so I went back to Curaderm and the perimeter is opening up (one edge only so far). Today I received Sunspot ES that I purchased off Ebay interestingly the instructions say do not use on broken or inflamed skin. I am assuming that is to protect Lane Lab's sunspot cover. I am using Curaderm instructions and will see how it goes.
Clarkster Posted - 09/04/2017 : 09:29:19
Curaderm or Sunspot-es has salicylic acid as a major ingredient. These two papers indicate that hyperthermia would significantly increase the death of the cancer cells:

Out of Warburg Effect: an effective cancer treatment targeting the tumor specific metabolism and dysregulated pH
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312601602_Out_of_Warburg_Effect_an_effective_cancer_treatment_targeting_the_tumor_specific_metabolism_and_dysregulated_pH
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Laurent_Schwartz/publication/312601602_Out_of_Warburg_Effect_an_effective_cancer_treatment_targeting_the_tumor_specific_metabolism_and_dysregulated_pH/links/58a1766692851c7fb4bf5f9b/Out-of-Warburg-Effect-an-effective-cancer-treatment-targeting-the-tumor-specific-metabolism-and-dysregulated-pH

laserthermia kills acidotic cancer cells more effectively than conventional hyperthermia
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02133161

I have been using Subspot ES and combining it with intermittent fasting, and a vegan diet. I have also been sitting in the sauna for about an hour at a time (this can be difficult).
I plan on putting on the Sunspot ES before I go into the sauna.
Clarkster Posted - 08/21/2017 : 19:46:06
quote:
Originally posted by rpmatson
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Link from the FDA:
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6808c.htm




The link above no longer works. This link works though
https://www.fda.gov/iceci/enforcementactions/warningletters/2015/ucm436079.htm
thomaso61 Posted - 06/06/2017 : 10:51:13
Anyone ever use this product?
Dougrun Posted - 11/30/2016 : 21:38:03
My area is now closed and healed, just some scar tissue remains. I am using the BEC sunscreen as it heals since it has vit.E and tamanu oil in it. Seems to be helping. During my experimentation period before I started my serious treatment, i used frankincense oil on it which caused a significant tissue indent, which is now rebuilding. The color is getting more normal day by day and the scar tissue is getting closer to flaking off.

edit: the scar tissue wasn't scar tissue so I started treating it and its back to a big open area again, hopefully I get it all this round.
dtjessup@aol.com Posted - 11/01/2016 : 10:51:26

I have used BEC for 15 months on a BCC. The area started getting smaller and was down to 1/4 inch about 8 weeks ago and then went back to 1/2 inch. My question is - do you know anything that I can do to support the wound healing? Some options seem to be: continue covering with micropore tape, use a band aid, apply or not apply an ointment etc. Not sure about how to support the healing and still be able to not ruin clothes or bed sheets. The area is on my right middle deltoid. Any suggestion much appreciated.
waverider Posted - 10/31/2015 : 19:59:36
NYArtist: If you're sure you are dealing with BCC, petty spurge is pretty much the DIY gold standard now, far as I'm concerned. It has the science and research to back it up (extract of PS active ingredients is now the major component of FDA approved topical chemo prescribed by dermatologists) as well as many successful first-person experiences, including me. Lengthy thread on this site has all the info you could need. If you're in North America, cool autumn weather is the time to plant PS seeds to get a decent indoor crop growing during winter and spring. It doesn't do well in summer in most locales.

Also concentrated topical vitamin C solution and/or paste may eventually work—particularly for superficial or ulcerating BCC versus hard nodular growth. My experience is that you have to hang in there with vitamin C for an extended period of time and be very dogged about applying it (particularly as it often *seems* to be making things worse, rather than better.) You've also got to experiment with when to stop and let it heal. It's a s-l-o-w process but you can google reports throughout the web now—in addition to long thread on this site—from people who've used vitamin C solution successfully against BCC, as well as the scientific theory about how/why it works when it does. I used it as a Plan B when I had a superficial BCC outbreak during summer and didn't have any petty spurge growing due to the heat. As it turned out I never had to use the PS when it finally grew that fall. Two months of vitamin C applications knocked out the BCC and it hasn't recurred.

Your mileage may vary on any/all of this. I am not a doctor.
Dougrun Posted - 10/31/2015 : 19:53:17
Even though I used Curaderm on a spot on my forehead that was undiagnosed, I would not recommend it to the average person. I do have a MS in physiology so i consider myself able to diagnose better than the average person. To blindly use any product without knowing what your condition is just negligent on your part. Blaming the product makes no sense.

I used it successfully on a spot on my forehead for 3 days and it removed the spot and it has not returned after 3 months.
NYArtist Posted - 10/30/2015 : 17:39:27
I was watching The Truth About Cancer series last week and one person spoke about a skin cancer cure that sounded like BEC5 but I think he said it came from the bark of a tree. Eggplant wasn't mentioned. Does anyone who saw the series or has the series know if it was curaderm or some other skin cancer product.

Also has anyone who has used the curaderm tried black salve?

I had used a perscription cream given to me by doctor and it "lit up" my entire forhead with black scabs. I was afraid to go out in public. It was just horrible and it effected my eyesight. I looked up the medication and it had frightening reviews. So much for going through a doctor!

What other options are there? I'm currently using a last of the curaderm that is left in the tube.
lllinda Posted - 10/30/2015 : 15:35:01
Some of you have read my story about my unfortunate experience with Curaderm. As I was on Facebook today, I saw an ad for Curaderm. I couldn't help but post a comment about my experience mostly because I am at this very moment recovering from yet another surgery I had this morning all because I chose to use Curadetm to treat my squamous cell carcinoma.

I would like to share what I posted on Facebook on the Curaderm ad as an update to my story:

"I'm sorry to say, but using Curaderm BEC5 nearly cost me my life, according to my doctors at the Penn State Hershey Cancer Institute. As a matter of fact, this very moment I have today undergone my third skin graft and scar reconstruction surgery within 6 weeks, with 2-3 more surgeries planned in the next month. In April 2014, I had an advanced poorly differentiated squamous cell carcinoma excised from my left posterior thigh which left me with a 5" X 4" nearly 3" deep wound that took 5 months to heal. The cancer had almost spread to my lymph nodes according to my doctor. I will need to have periodic chest X-rays for a very long time to check for any metastasis. All of this pain and misery because of my use of Curaderm.
My use of Curaderm started with a self-diagnosed squamous cell carcinoma on the back of my left thigh. My fear of doctors kept me from getting proper medical treatment, which would have been a relatively easy removal procedure in my dermatologist's office. Instead, I opted to use Curaderm. For five months Curaderm ate away at the ever growing an ulcerating lesion, causing intense burning and pain. These symptoms were considered normal in the Curaderm literature. When I finally realized that my symptoms weren't normal, but in fact dangerous and life threatening, I went to my dermatologist , who sent me to a local surgeon, where I finally had a biopsy. When the results came back, he said it was beyond what he could treat. So, I was sent to Penn State Hershey Medical Center where I have been under the expert care of world class skin cancer specialists. They concur that Curaderm is a dangerous product and should not be used. For those of you who have had good results, I wish you well. But, I highly suggest that before trusting Curaderm to heal your skin cancer, find a qualified doctor that you can trust and don't take chances with skin cancer or your health. I am a painful example that it just isn't worth the risk!"
Deeo Posted - 09/14/2015 : 01:31:05
quote:
Originally posted by NYArtist

Is there any place to order curaderm that isn't as expensive as $144? I used to spend $110 and that was a lot..what would make it go up so high now?


About 6 months ago, Vanuatu was almost wiped out by a Cat 5 cyclone. I'm thinking the eggplant crop has suffered and is currently in short supply. Perhaps the warehouse/factory was flattened in the fray. In my own experience, I find Curaderm to be messy and the treatment takes a long time. The lesion treated with it looks (and feels) clear. However, the one I had cut out just three months ago is showing signs of returning. If It does, I will opt for treating it with Curaderm despite the inconvenience and cost as I don't want to keep getting surgery. (Luckily I stocked up when I heard about the cyclone.)
NYArtist Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:44:38
Is there any place to order curaderm that isn't as expensive as $144? I used to spend $110 and that was a lot..what would make it go up so high now?
NYArtist Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:41:19
Hi
What do you mean by..that you are applying eggplant? Are you just taking a regular eggplant and putting the inside of the peel on your face. Please let me know. The curaderm has gone up to $144 from $110 the last time I bought it and I can't afford to spend that much.

Please email me with your recipe for using real eggplant. szukidavis@aol.com/ Thanks.
Shelley

quote:
Originally posted by Allie

I was planning on ordering Curaderm, but since marsha's post, I started questioning it's true effectiveness. It does seem curious that despite the 100% curative rate claimed by Curaderm, no one on topicalinfo has yet posted a conclusive positive result.

I googled "Curaderm scam" and came up with some discouraging information. One website claims that there are no records in Great Britain of the clinical trials claimed by Curaderm advertisers, and that the positive claims found on some forum websites actually came from the same source on Vanuata, which is where the Curaderm is sold from (not Australia).

I think I will not order the Curaderm after all. I'm currently applying eggplant, and although my lesions seem to have vastly improved after 5 weeks, they are still not fully healed. I plan to be patient a while longer, but will consider other possibilities, maybe including surgery if I can find someone who does MOHS.


Dougrun Posted - 07/11/2015 : 20:22:40
i wasnt able to stay with the treatment, it would scab over almost immediately if left uncovered, like overnight. Since the area is undiagnosed, I dont want to use it on that area. tonight i picked at the scab and it peeled right off, clean skin under it but cant tell yet if the pigment is changed. It sure did something though.
lllinda Posted - 07/09/2015 : 11:43:32
I agree. Using Curaderm for 6 months turned what could have been a simple procedure in the dermatologist's office into a life threatening ordeal requiring extensive surgery and months of healing. I'm still not back to normal activities even after a year. I have a reconstructive surgery planned for the end of the summer. It's just not worth the risk, in my opinion!
gibsontown Posted - 07/09/2015 : 10:27:10
This was my experience, twice in a year. It looked like it went through all the stages, healing beautifully. Both times a wound opened up several weeks later.

The cancer was not gone. Mine was infiltrative BCC. The curader could not reach deep enough to get it all (I found later from the surgeon.) It was still very small on my skin, but underneath had grown quite broad and deep.

It can look great after healing - but the cancer was only trimmed and is still deeply imbedded. The surgeon said the problem with these self treatments is that we are pruning the top, but not the root system (like a plant) and it grows back even faster.

I have another spot I'm watching for another week or so but I will not hesitate to go in. Delaying the surgery went from a minor procedure to needing 10 days off work, and skin and cartiledge grafting.

quote:
Originally posted by mandyyy

if I'm honest it doesn't look gone at all - it still has the suspicious raised area around the surface. Mine healed similar after curaderm but a few months later i felt the bump and got a biopsy, and it was still there - just hidden underneath all the new the skin - and bigger than ever :( I was so upset!

Dougrun Posted - 07/09/2015 : 07:33:33
3rd day, (4th treatment) of curaderm, definitely stung when i put it on, burning a little but not too bad. dark patch seems to be breaking up in appearance.
Dougrun Posted - 07/08/2015 : 08:54:41
I found that apple cider vinegar also stings but I was testing a patch on my forehead thats undiagnosed. I started using Curaderm on it yesterday. It softened it up a lot, just a little tingle today. I am healing from a basal treatment on the other side of my scalp I used Vitamin C on successfully (with dmso to go deep) so that crater is starting to heal up now. The BEC was a backup if that failed but it worked nicely.
DEK Posted - 05/08/2015 : 14:29:14
Thanks Dan and Deeo for your replies. Dan, one question: Am I correct in thinking that I should let the tender and exposed parts of the treatment area heal before using the D-Limonene since so much of the pain reaction would be to the rawness of the flesh and not the presence of cancer cells?

Thanks
Deeo Posted - 05/06/2015 : 22:21:22
Hi Dek, If its precancerous, its probably a keratosis and Dr Cham's book (which I've mislaid atm) said to apply twice a day for 3 days for a keratosis. If that's the case, you've possibly over-treated it. Maybe you could just do the orange oil test as Dan suggested just to be sure. Let us know how it heals up. I have a keratosis on my nose which didn't completely heal with cryotherapy. I'm a bit reluctant to treat it with BEC as I've seen how ugly the BCC treatment was and don't dare do it on my face. If yours hasn't made deep holes which exude profusely then it probably was quite shallow and might heal without any drama.
dan Posted - 05/06/2015 : 21:02:37
Hi DEK, deciding when to stop is not an easy call for any cancer treatment and most treatments are at least skin irritants which makes it even more difficult. I like to use the sting of topically applied orange oil (d-limonene) as my best indicator. When applied to normal skin, orange oil will not cause a stinging sensation. When applied to cancerous and perhaps precancerous areas, orange oil causes a sting after about one minute that lasts for about 25 minutes, perhaps less for shallow affected areas. D-limonene has mild anticancer properties as well. Some people may be allergic to it but otherwise it seems safe to me to use it as an indicator. I have used it on large areas of skin for several weeks. If and when you decide to try it as a diagnostic tool, I would recommend letting the affected area rest for several days to avoid a false reading. The stinging can be intense but it goes away like clockwork. Orange oil and/or d-limonene capsules are inexpensive and available at vitamin stores.

https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/d-limonene
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-D-Limonene-1000mg-60-Soft/dp/B0025PX4JC
http://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Orange-Sweet-ounce/dp/B0019LPL8A

DEK Posted - 05/06/2015 : 08:33:16
Hi, I'm new to all this and am in need of some advice. A biopsy showed precancerous cells in the top section of my left ear. I've been applying BEC5 to it for the past month. I have all the usual reactions. Skin peeling off. Redness and in places raw flesh.

My question is about how to know when to stop. I've read here that when the cancer cells are all dead the skin will heal. But my understanding is that as long as I'm applying the BEC5, the acid in it will continue to eat away at the flesh. So how do I know when the cells are dead? Or am I not understanding the process?

Thanks.
mandyyy Posted - 05/03/2015 : 23:17:12
if I'm honest it doesn't look gone at all - it still has the suspicious raised area around the surface. Mine healed similar after curaderm but a few months later i felt the bump and got a biopsy, and it was still there - just hidden underneath all the new the skin - and bigger than ever :( I was so upset!
Deeo Posted - 04/25/2015 : 15:48:18
@ gunge
The one I'm treating now is one that became evident after I treated the first one. It was hardly visible before, just a little nick on the skin with some irritation. This one has opened up bigger than the original and is just as ugly. I haven't had any rocks emerge from either of mine. I got my curaderm from a place in Perth and they sent me Dr Cham's book free. Even with all the info in the book,I still felt unsure of what to expect. The book doesn't describe just how ugly it will get before it heals and its easy to give up just when the situation is about to turn. Both of mine developed bright red raggedy edges around the outside of the lesion with blistering. No one else seems to describe that. Luckily you had your wife's support as it takes a long time.
Gunge Posted - 04/25/2015 : 00:29:31
I must admit I was convinced to stop using Cureaderm when it became gungy. It really looked terrible and my wife who was the one who wanted me to use Cureaderm was thinking "oh no what I have done''. If not for reading about other people's same experiences on this forum I would have stopped. Thank God I didn't as those 'Balls' (rocks) would have never emerged. I was always annoyed that no real instructions cane with my Cureaderm or a list of things that would and could happen as it would have put my mind at ease. But thanks to this forum I was able to have some sort of a guide as to what I could expect. I thought I had better pay it forward and contribute to the same forum that helped me out and now BCC free.

@Deeo incredible that this has happened to you at only 4 weeks. Was that because it was relatively a new BCC. Mine was around 6 years old so I guess thats why a lot longer to treat ?
Deeo Posted - 04/24/2015 : 01:22:02
@ Gunge. Your user name says it all. I've got one at the "gunge" stage at about 4 weeks and its hard to have self belief and keep going. I remember with the last one, once the pus stopped, the red area began to reduce, the pain lessened and the skin grew back in a very short time. This time its happening a lot sooner but there is definitely more gunge happening.
Gunge Posted - 04/23/2015 : 21:57:06
I used Cureaderm after my wife convinced me to try rather than having BCC surgically removed. I used it every morning and night for just over 3 months and it was only after 13 weeks did something happen and happen it did. I woke one miring to find my BCC 'infected' and puss starting to ozze. My immediate reaction was to stop using Cureaderm and go to my GP. I immediately was frantic on seeing if this was a common problem and thank people on this site for posting since I read that this was not infection but cancerous cells coming out so I decided to continue to use Cureaderm. That evening it had worsened and the infection looked worse. That evening I showered and gently pushed either side of the BCC and pushed the puss out. This resulted in shrinking the size of yen infection and I repeated this the following evening. The third evening I again pushed puss out and was amazed that 2 'balls' (clay like) came out off the BCC (I had read on this forum others referred to this a a rock). The ball smelt vile and could be squished between my fingers. With the ball removed the raised infected area was dramatically reduced in size but was still very swollen. I continued to use the cream and 2 days later I noticed another ball had risen to the surface and I gentky applied pressure and it popped out. I contined to use Cureaderm for another 2 days and at this point the infection had virtually gone and pink skin had grown over the top of the BCC. I used Cureaderm for another 3 days and at this point it seemed like the time to cease as the BCC had completely covered over and was virtually flat now. There was a slight raised area on the top of the BCC and I began using Tamanu oil for just over 3 weeks. At the end of the 3 weeks the BCC is completely gone and only a faint scar. Thank you to everyone who posted on this site to help me as a giude
gibsontown Posted - 04/18/2015 : 14:39:26
You need a biopsy to be sure it is gone. I thought mine was - twice. It returned. By time I gave up on Curaderm, the tumor on my face was huge. I wasted the better part of a year on it, and wish I had not followed Chan's advice to me to keep treating it. He truly does not believe it can ever fail - which is not the case.

quote:
Originally posted by RobMeister

I successfully used curaderm as did another friend of mine on a Basel cell. I think it's worth a try over using a knife...though it can get pretty gross before the healing process begins so be prepared for some ugly in the area. Mine took two months.

RobMeister Posted - 04/18/2015 : 11:36:18
I successfully used curaderm as did another friend of mine on a Basel cell. I think it's worth a try over using a knife...though it can get pretty gross before the healing process begins so be prepared for some ugly in the area. Mine took two months.
anivoc Posted - 03/22/2015 : 18:31:12
Good stuff Deeo..

I will start a new thread in the topical treatments section regarding this and we can all contribute there. There has been a lot of different Phenols that seems to kill cancer..

I just spent twenty minutes googling and there is a ton of info on this...we'll see...

Deeo Posted - 03/22/2015 : 15:49:53
Here is that article I read recently:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/olive-oil-compound-kills-cancer-cells-less-hour-all-powerful-oleocanthal-322904

Not oleopein, oleocanthal apparently.
Deeo Posted - 03/22/2015 : 15:38:28
That article was a bit scary! I think I'll avoid that stuff for now.
I've just mixed up a home potion to attempt to treat those suspect spots which may have been attached to the main BCC which is now undergoing scar treatment. I'm not keen to use Curaderm yet as I don't want to risk it re-opening the "bigger one" and one of the spots is right next to it. I first want to try something a little gentler. Anyway, I've mixed together c/nut oil, ACV and Olive Leaf extract. (equal parts) I included the last one as I read a recent article about how Oleapein kills cancer cells within 1 hour. (but I suspect that's in its purest form) I'm going to just rub the oil mix in during the day and put it on cotton wool with micropore at night. DO NOT DISTURB! SCIENTIST AT WORK!
Bruce Albrecht Posted - 03/22/2015 : 09:10:10
Thanks for the info on Fluorouracil. I was prescribed the treatment by a dermatologist in Clearwater, Florida. It seemed to work. I showed it to my dermatologist in the UK who said she did not approve as she favoured surgical removal. It is frustrating as a layman to receive such different views. I am going to the Cleveland Clinic for a check-up in about a month and will ask their opinion. I tan very easily and I do not think I have ever burned badly as I am not a sun worshiper. My wife who tans with difficulty lies in the direct sun to get a "good fry-up". She has done this for decades and has no skin problems. We sit on the beach together - me under the umbrella and her in full sun. I tan quickly and she takes a long time. Now that I have viewed skin cancer and taken an interest, I see it frequently on the faces and arms here in Abu Dhabi. Do these people not know that something should be done about it?
anivoc Posted - 03/22/2015 : 08:45:20
Bruce not to "bring you down" or discourage but make you aware...

I used Fluorouracil in my mid 40's in my early 50's the same derm told me he had quit prescribing it because studies had found it may actually increase your chance of getting BCC's..

Here's an article on the subject

http://dermatologytimes.modernmedicine.com/dermatology-times/content/tags/5-fluorouracil/5-fluorouracil-may-put-some-patients-risk?page=full
anivoc Posted - 03/22/2015 : 08:36:37
Yep born n raised in "Sunny" Southern California...and a real "whitey" among a bunch of golden brownies..It was considered healthy to have a tan in the early 60's my older sisters used to put baby oil on to get a "burn". I remember my sister having fun peeling the dead skin off of my back and saying what a beautiful golden brown my skin had become..

I also used to go out ocean fishing, no hat, no sunscreen and burn all day...wonderful.

I started getting AK's in my late 20's when it was finally known sunburns might contribute to skin cancers.. my first BCC @ 32....29 years later it has not been a lot of fun but I see people who have it worse so I just deal with what I have to deal with.

My oldest daughter who is 32 has already had a BCC removed and just had some moles biopsied..dang!

We were super diligent with her as a child and always slathered both of our girls in sunscreen... She did get a few burns as a teen when she was out on her own and didn't take heed.

Hoping the younger dodges the bullet as she played a lot of softball and got a few burns even with the sunscreen..so far so good ...she's 29 ( fingers crossed ) Obviously genetics plays a big role..

2 of my 3 older sisters have never had a single AK or BCC and they are both in their 70's and got burned tons of times...my youngest sister has dealt with a few AK's over the years ...she just turned 70 and she was a sun goddess.

Younger brother also got plenty of burns not a single AK or BCC and he is 58..

Lots of Cousins that also grew up in Cali and only a handful have the issue. Those that do ....not so pretty.



Bruce Albrecht Posted - 03/21/2015 : 22:01:06
Thanks for the comments Deeo I grew up in Clearwater Florida with its long white beach. We would play in the sand and water without sun screen and no umbrella. Shirts were not worn even when playing at home outside. We all had a "healthy" deep tan. Research now shows that those with this type of sun experience are not as much at risk as the Northern pale faces that came to Florida for the annual tanning session that, of course, was really an annual deep burn session. Studies show that skin cancer odds increase dramatically by sun burns before you are 20. If you avoided burning by gently tanning the risk was less. Add this information to the statistics that show cancer rates in sunny areas are LOWER than more northern climates. Why? Because Vitamin D created in your own skin provides some protection from cancer developing. Mind you, this is not skin cancer, but other cancers. Looks like moderation was again the best strategy.

I have a tube of Fluorouracil in my bathroom medicine cabinet here. I will take it to a local pharmacy and see if they will sell me a new one on the spot.
Deeo Posted - 03/21/2015 : 15:56:26
Hi Bruce, thanks for your advice. I'll look into whether fluoracil is available here. I have no doubt that it will need at least a GP visit and prescription. Perhaps even a referral to Specialist appointment. (they have it all sown up!) Unfortunately our generation didn't know of the dangers of sun damage and sunscreen wasn't available when we were kids. The sun here in Australia is very harsh and most of my damage was done as a child. In my experience, its not until now that the skin cancers begin to show and all you can do is try to prevent further damage. It's been years since I've had sunburn as now I avoid being out in it when the risk is greatest.
Bruce Albrecht Posted - 03/21/2015 : 03:10:33
It has been over 2 years since I posted on this forum and since that time there seems to be the same pattern of Curaderm working for some and not for others. I have used Curaderm with success on small bcc cancers but have also been successful with Fluorouracil 5%. None of mine were advanced but one had a biopsy that confirmed the cancer before I experimented. There has been no reappearance of cancer in my three treated areas. I have had a few small possible new cancer areas that have all responded to the Fluorouacil. On my trip to Florida I visit a dermatologist to make sure. I found that the Fluoroucil worked with less drama compared to Curaderm. Have others used Fluorouracil? I know it needs a prescription in the USA but I am in Arabia where if you can say it, you can buy it. For background I am 65 and have spent most of my life without suncream in Florida, Bermuda or Arabia. Lately I have started wearing a cricket hat on the beach that shields the ears. Perhaps I have had success because I was so early in treatment. This forum is excellent in trading results but it is disappointing that the conclusions and results are so varied making it hard to reach a conclusion on the efficacy of treatments.
Deeo Posted - 03/20/2015 : 18:00:00
I forgot to add that I decided to treat the one on my leg first and not risk it on my face as I'd seen a number of bad reports on here. Some time later, I referred myself to a skin specialist, (skipped the GP). She had all the proper equipment, cameras etc. She declared all the other spots as pre or non-cancerous and wanted to do a biopsy on the leg one. I told her I wanted to finish the treatment first(which at that stage seemed to be working). She had never heard of Curaderm, wasn't happy and told me that there was "no topical treatment for skin cancer that works." If the lesion opens up again, I may have to resort to surgery but I doubt that surgery would've discovered the little satellite ones around the main lesion.
anivoc, I agree that micropore tape is a great discovery. I reacted badly to every other type of bandaid or tape, but that one is good.
Deeo Posted - 03/20/2015 : 17:43:40
Thanks, John.
@John & Anivoc
Firstly, I'm not extolling the virtues of Curaderm. I never was. I just wanted to share my news that it seems to be healed. That has me overjoyed as it was a hard road and so hard to believe. It's early days yet and the treatment has exposed several smaller areas nearby that may need treatment. I listened to Howard's advice that its best to keep putting the cream on for a while and not to treat those smaller ones until the larger lesion has faded a bit.
My BCC was about 4mm in diameter and had a red raised crater around it and a tiny, pin-prick hole in the centre . I'd first noticed it about a year ago, thinking it was a stubborn pimple or suchlike. It was only when it started to bleed for no reason, that I realised it was something more sinister. Thinking back, the whole area had been itchy for some time. At first I intended to get proper medical advice, but had a bad experience with them which led me to research alternative treatments on the net. The GP I saw, declared that it looked like a BCC but she'd like to do a biopsy later and also do one on my face and on the two spots on the sole of my foot. This would cost $40 a pop plus another $100 for the visit , plus the hundred I had just paid. (total $360) This would then lead to a referral to a specialist, expensive and lots of time wasted waiting. When I got home, licked my finger and washed the two spots off my foot, I just wasn't willing to put my life in this person's hands and simply ordered the Curaderm.
I have no idea at this stage if the treatment has succeeded long term. There is no point in taking a photo as it is still a dark pink/purplish colour (as scars are when healing). I hope the colour will fade in time. I will report back either way.
john691 Posted - 03/20/2015 : 13:13:01
Deeo,
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am interested in hearing about your experience and I appreciate you taking the time to share. In general, I like details such as the size, location, and nature of the cancer, e.g., squamous cell, basal cell, morpheaform. There are other parameters of interest. Pictures are interesting but biopsies are useful data. Follow-up data is important such as recurrence at the same location or adjacent locations. Quantitative data is useful in helping to determine under what conditions the treatment is likely to work, which is why people are interested in this dialog. For example, avoid Curaderm for treating subcutaneous morpheaform basal cell on the face or neck because this form of cancer tends to dive deep and follow nerve pathways. Curaderm cannot penetrate more than 2 mm of skin before the tissue starts to heel. At least, this has been my experience. So far, there is no quantitative data that supports or refutes the use of Curaderm under specific conditions. Since it has not passed the FDA approval process, which is based on quantitative data, it cannot be recommended nor sold as a cure. I believe in this approval process. This site claims that it works for some unknown skin lesions under some conditions for some people. So, please keep sharing experiences and, if possible, include more quantitative data.
anivoc Posted - 03/20/2015 : 05:52:50
Deeo you're happy with your results and that's fine. You are welcome to come here and post as you wish..I will do the same. I have no power over you and you have none over me. We clearly disagree on Curaderm based on our own anecdotal experiences. This is a 7 year old thread so I think "Barbara" has figured out her course of action.

You want to bring comfort and encouragement to those that have chosen to use Curaderm.
I want to warn people that Curaderm is marketed in a very misleading way, is not near as effective as they promote and that there are other faster, more effective, less expensive alternative treatments. I went through over 100 days of suffering before I gave up. I did get one positive takeaway from the experience ...I learned about 3m micropore tape which has been a God send.

I have openly admitted it does seem to work on some people some of the time...

You can start a Curaderm users support thread where those of you that have chosen that route can cheer each other up.

I can start a Bad experience with Curaderm thread where we who clearly just didn't use it as instructed can speak the evils of it.

But in this thread I'm not going to let support of the product go by without scrutiny and pointing out to the visitors coming here for advice...Buyer beware there are other options you might want to consider.


Convenient choice of sources for your definition of Nazi ...you must have had to search a while for one that defended what you "meant" to say...Usually one goes to the dictionary for a definition...From dictionary.com

noun, plural Nazis.
1.
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler and advocated totalitarian government, territorial expansion, anti-Semitism, and Aryan supremacy, all these leading directly to World War II and the Holocaust.
2.
(often lowercase) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.
3.
(often lowercase) Sometimes Offensive. a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to regulate a specified activity, practice, etc.:
a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; health nazis trying to ban junk food.
Deeo Posted - 03/20/2015 : 00:02:13
By the way: Vocabulary.com meaning for 'nazi"
a derogatory term for a person who is fanatically dedicated to, or seeks to control some activity, practice etc.
That was my meaning, nothing to do with Hitler or Nazism.
Deeo Posted - 03/19/2015 : 23:52:16
"I've been participating here for a lot of years with 550 + post...you come post two post and with your plethora of skin cancer wisdom call imply I'm a Nazi... yep you're credible."

That is precisely my point, Anivoc. Are you the boss of this site or self-appointed authority? Any new person coming to this site with good news gets immediately put in their place and you let them know quickly that you don't believe in it and that you're in charge. IMHO that is nazi-like behaviour.The original post by Barbara asked: "Has anyone had any success with Curaderm?" My posting was an answer to that question. I did not document it and take photos every day, as, like Barbara, I had my doubts. I wasn't looking for a massive photo opportunity or looking to advise others. I have simply reported my experience in answer to Barbara. You have now insinuated that my report is not "credible". Please yourself with what you believe as I know you will anyway! Obviously I'm unwelcome on this site and I was expecting the cold shoulder from the start as I had read your previous interactions with others. Hopefully people can see some success stories in amongst all your negativity. I won't be adding to this comment as this conversation is going nowhere.


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