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 Posted - 06/29/2007 : 12:45:59
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I was researching the use of topical vitamin C and found this interesting text at http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitaminC.html
Vitamin C Treatment
When Vitamin C comes into contact with a skin cancer or external tumor (e.g. basel cell carcinoma), it hardens the tumor and forms a crust, such that the scab falls off in 2 weeks or so depending on how big the tumor is and how aggressive you get with the Vitamin C.
The solution is made by adding 1/8 tsp (teaspoon) of pure Vitamin C crystals to 1 tsp of water (a ratio of 1:8). Add any more and the Vitamin C won't dissolve. This should make enough solution to last all day. If more is made than is needed you should store it in a closed container in the refrigerator.
Even better, put 1 or 2 ounces of water (30-60 ml) in a small glass bottle and add 1 tsp of Vitamin C for each ounce of water (that is a 1:6 ratio). If after mixing you don't see any crystals on the bottom then add more Vitamin C until the water won't dissolve anymore. This insures a saturated solution of Vitamin C.
The treatment is to apply the mixture (using a cotton swab or Q-Tip) to the tumor. This should be done 2 or 3 times a day. It is best to put a bandage or other cotton covering over the tumor after each treatment, if possible.
On the skin cancer the bandage is just to keep the lesion wet with Vitamin C until the next treatment. If there is an infection you should change the bandage more often. Ascorbate is also anti-infective and is used topically and IV for burn patients. You would therefore be curing the cancer and infection at the same time.
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fforest
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Posted - 06/29/2007 : 15:06:56
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| I do not know if any one has tried applying highly concentrated vit-c water to a raw cancer site..In my experince I can say the pain is unbearable... |
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ardenlester00
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 11:12:17
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My cat has skin cancer under his eye. It is past what the vet can do except more cautizing (burning off cancer eruptions)
I have been making a paste from green tea extract mixed with triple antibiotics and sterile water and applying the paste to the silver dollar size affected area. It seems to be soothing to him, looks much, much "nicer" than the open wound - and seems to be slowing down the growth.
The cancer itself only "seeps" and doesn't crust or scab (only slight crust at times. He is not in any seeming pain, has been eating (and hunting - tho' first operation at vets made him blind)
I wanted to mix in Vitamin C with the "paste" I apply daily or twice a day - but the hurts intently comment scares me.
Can anyone elaborate on that? He is not hurting - but will die eventually from this, I'm sure. He is my "buddy" for 12 years so I want to prolong his life if it is still quality life and no pain.
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Dennis |
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ardenlester00
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 11:16:12
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My cat has skin cancer under his eye. It is past what the vet can do except more cautizing (burning off cancer eruptions)
I have been making a paste from green tea extract mixed with triple antibiotics and sterile water and applying the paste to the silver dollar size affected area. It seems to be soothing to him, looks much, much "nicer" than the open wound - and seems to be slowing down the growth.
The cancer itself only "seeps" and doesn't crust or scab (only slight crust at times. He is not in any seeming pain, has been eating (and hunting - tho' first operation at vets made him blind)
I wanted to mix in Vitamin C with the "paste" I apply daily or twice a day - but the hurts intently comment scares me.
Can anyone elaborate on that? He is not hurting - but will die eventually from this, I'm sure. He is my "buddy" for 12 years so I want to prolong his life if it is still quality life and no pain.
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Dennis |
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fforest
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 18:09:19
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I know people all get a warm and fuzzy feeling when they think of vitamin-C...
A little vitamin-C water on a problem spot if its not to strong sure cant hurt any thing and it may help ....
If you make your mix as stong as you can in order to kill a BCC or some other nasty thing this is a whole different ball game....
A highly concentrated vitamin-C mix is so ascitic it will burn your skin like a acid..Healthy skin and bad..If you put it on a open sore the pain is quite bad... I burned the *rap out of my skin with this..My skin healed just fine but its not some thing I want to do again...
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simple_me
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 15:55:08
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| Yes, I too try highly concentrated vitamin C on my cancer site. Burned badly! I couldn't take the pain, had to cleanse it right away! Just posting my experience for others. Thanks. |
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drbeckl2
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 11:44:57
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Hello;
Here is skin cancer formula using Vitamin C, and the protocol on how to use it:
quote:
http://www.cancervictors.net/resources/news.asp?filteryear=2007&filtermonth=11
November 10, 2007
Topical Vitamin C Stops Basal Cell Carcinoma
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, November 9, 2007
Topical Vitamin C Stops Basal Cell Carcinoma(OMNS Nov 9 2007)
The most common form of skin cancer, basal cell carcinoma, often
responds to a remarkably simple, safe, at-home treatment: vitamin C.
Physicians and patients report that vitamin C, applied directly to
basal cell skin cancers, causes them to scab over and drop off. [1]
Successful use involves a highly-concentrated vitamin C solution,
directly applied to the blemish two or three times a day. Vitamin C is
selectively toxic to cancer cells, but does not harm healthy skin
cells. This is also the basis for high-dose intravenous vitamin
therapy for cancer. [2]
Even higher concentrations of vitamin C can be obtained by direct application.
The use of topical vitamin C to kill basal cell carcinoma has been known at least since 1971. Frederick R.Klenner, MD, wrote: "We have removed several small basal cell
epithelioma with a 30 percent ointment" of vitamin C. [3]
One person, who reported that a 2mm diameter spot on the nose would not heal for months, had it disappear within a week with twice-daily concentrated vitamin C applications. Another patient reported that after dermatologist- diagnosed multiple spots of basal cell carcinoma were coated with vitamin C, the spots fell off within two weeks. [4]
Basal cell carcinomas are slow growing and it is rare for them to metastasize. This provides an opportunity for a therapeutic trial of vitamin C, provided one has proper medical diagnosis and follow-up.
Preparation of a water-saturated vitamin C solution is simple.
Slowly add a small amount of water to about half a teaspoon of vitamin
C powder or crystals. Use just enough water to dissolve the vitamin
C. Using less water will make a paste. Either way, application with
the fingertip or a cotton swab, several times daily, is easy. The
water will evaporate in a few minutes and leave a plainly visible coat
of vitamin C crystals on the skin.
Consult your doctor before employing this or any other self-care treatment. A physician's diagnosis is especially important, since other forms of skin cancer, such as melanoma, are faster growing and more dangerous. If the vitamin C treated area is not improved after a few weeks, a doctor should be consulted once again.
References:
[1] William Wassell, MD:
Skin cancer and vitamin C. Cancer
Tutor,http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitaminC.html
[2]Riordan NH, Riordan HD, Meng X, Li Y, Jackson JA: Intravenous ascorbate as a tumor cytotoxic chemotherapeutic agent. Med Hypotheses1995; 44: 207-2 13. http://www.brightspot.org/cresearch/intravenousc2.shtml
and http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/riordan-nh-etal-med_hypotheses_1995-v44-p207.htm and also
http://www.doctoryourself.com/riordan1.html
[3]Fredrick R. Klenner,MD: Observations on the dose and administration of ascorbic acid when employed beyond the range of a vitamin in human pathology. Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, Nos3 & 4, Winter 1971.
http://yost.com/health/klenner/klenner-1971.pdf and
http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
[4]Age spots, basal cell carcinoma and solar
keratosis.http://www.doctoryourself.com/news/v5n9.txt
Nutritional
Medicine is Orthomolecular Medicine Orthomolecular medicine uses
safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more
information: http://www.orthomolecular.org
The peer-reviewed
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-
commercial informational resource. Editorial Review Board: Carolyn
Dean, M.D., N.D.Damien Downing, M.D.Harold D. Foster, Ph.D.Steve
Hickey, Ph.D.Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D.Erik Paterson, M.D.Thomas Levy,
M.D., J.D.Bradford Weeks, M.D. Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D., Editor and
contact person. Email:omns@orthomolecular.org
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Vybes
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Posted - 01/07/2008 : 17:16:09
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I was recently diagnosed with Superficial Basal Cell Carcinoma on my rightside forehead just at the hairline...my dermatoligist was away for the holidays and so I decided to take the opportunity to try a home remedy during the interim...I purchased powdered Vit.C (ascorbic acid) and followed the procedure as described above...
Upon initially applying the Vit.C paste to the area, I was impressed how quickly it reacted, immediately defining the healthy tissue from the basal inflicted area...there is no visible lesion, so I just spread the paste over a broader area to ensure coverage...the burning sensation was enough to get my attention, but certainly not unbearable...periodically I dabbed moisture on the paste to re-wet it and keep it active...swelling in the immediate area was quite obvious...
After the first session (I reapplied the paste a few times over a 3 hour period in the evening), the affected area was larger than I expected and it was now reddened and slightly recessed as though some skin was removed...I applied pure aloe vera gel to soothe the area...
...the second night I followed the same procedure...this time the burning was just a bit more intense (like putting alcohol on an open wound) but still bearable...after about an hour, I noticed the area was turning grayish-black...I rinsed it off and most of the gray/black was washed off leaving freshly exposed pink skin below...I reapplied the paste 2 or 3 times, and each time the grayish-black color returned...it seemed as though it was oxidized skin which washed away fairly easily...the area was now more reddened and so I applied some antibiotic ointment and later some more aloe to calm the reddening...swelling was less than the previous night...
...by the third night of applications, I noticed the area that was reacting to the paste was getting a bit smaller...the outer perimeter of skin was returning to normal skin color and the center of the area continued the "grayish" response to each application...it also appeared that the area was a bit more recessed as though more skin had been removed...once allowed to dry, the area began to dry out and form a thin scab...I decided to skip a day and see how it healed...the swelling again was less than the night before...
...on the fifth day, after a shower I noticed the area was a bit more pink and I decided to reapply the paste again...this time the area that reacted was again smaller and the reactions were less intense...still a bearable burning sensation, but more restrained than before...after multiple applications on this day alternated with aloe vera to soothe, the area was now taking on a white-ish tone and swelling was minor at best...I allowed it to dry out and a thin scab-like covering became apparent...the area was taking on the look of a healing wound now...that is as far as I have gotten, but I believe the results so far are promising...
...each day that I apply the Vit.C paste, the area of reaction is a bit smaller and the reaction is less intense...I'm very impressed with how the paste only reacts within the area of the shrinking wound, and the outlining areas are not at all affected...the ascorbic acid really seems to go right to the root of the problem...knowing that ascorbic acid is used topically in the treatment of severe burns gives me the confidence to continue this process...I will update my results as they progress...I have a scheduled consultation with a cosmetic surgeon (in about a week from now) at the recommendation of my dermatologist, but I'm not convinced that that's the best option...
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anivoc
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 02:32:05
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| Awesome ! Keep us posted! |
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Vybes
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 16:42:25
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| ...OK...2 days later and I have become more selective in where I apply the Vit.C paste...there is now about a 1/4" perimeter of fresh pink skin around the wound...the center is a grayish-beige color which I am presuming is dead tissue...I don't want to apply the paste to the fresh skin because although the Vit.C doesn't react to healthy tissue, the area is tender and I want to give it a day or two to continue to heal...I will then focus on applying the paste to the center area which still looks as though it isn't fully treated yet...the concentration of Basal Cell seems to be in this center tissue (a lttle less than a 1/2" in diameter)...again, the progress is quite noticeable and I am committed to continue this process until I go to see the surgeon next week...in the meantime I am applying antibiotic ointment to aid in the healing of the fresh tissue... |
Edited by - Vybes on 01/09/2008 16:44:41 |
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meg101
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 21:30:58
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| What Vitamin C product are you using? |
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Vybes
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Posted - 02/06/2008 : 18:47:08
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OK...obviously it's been almost a month since I last posted (I never did bother to see the plastic surgeon, and thankfully so)...I don't have ample time right now to go into to detail, but I will say that I continued my routine for a total of 3 weeks and then decided to allow for the healing process to begin...
...it's now been about 2 weeks of "healing" and there's major improvement...what was once easily the size of a quarter is now about half the size of a dime and continuing to heal...the area no longer responds to the Vit. C paste, as all the superficial basal appears to have been destroyed (I will be going back to the Dermatologist for a follow-up exam as soon as the wound is completely healed)...
...I used essentially 3 products:
1. GNC Vitamin C Crystals with Rose Hips (Ascorbic Acid) 8oz. Jar
2. a generic bottle of clear Aloe Vera Gel (Walgreens)
3. a generic triple-antibiotic ointment (Walgreens)
...I will log in again when I have ample time to wrap-up and go into further detail as to my exact routine (basically described above) and the time frame involved...
...suffice to say, the results appear to be very promising... |
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krissy
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Posted - 02/09/2008 : 12:50:06
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Hi everyone!
I too have been useing the vitamin C therapy for a bump on my nose. It's been about 3 days and the bump is shrinking.
Vitamin C kills mold, and parasites.
Refer to Hulda Clark Ph.D.,DN.D; A Cure For All Diseases-www.newcenturypress.com |
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Luxy
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2009 : 15:28:38
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On using vitamin C on skin cancers:
I have been using Vitamin C on my facial BCC's. At first I just rubbed a wet vitamin C tablet on the lesions. When dry, the lesions were completely covered in the white dust of the C tablet. About three or four times a day, I put water on my finger and dabbed the white dust to wet it again and make it active. If I didn't feel a little sting, I rubbed the wet C around, working it into the lesion. Once I could feel a sting, I assumed that it was working, and let it alone to dry. Each morning, I washed everything off, and re-applied a new dose of vitamin C.
After two days, the lesions began to get hard, and formed a crust (but not yet a scab). I decided to try a more intensive approach, and on one site (the biggest lesion - between the size of a nickel and a quarter, located near the hinge joint of my left jaw) I wet a vitamin C tablet, rubbed the site with it, and then bandaided it into place, tightly up against the lesion. I kept it wet by either dripping water onto the tablet inside the bandaid, or spraying it with a colloidal silver spray. Again, after each wetting, I rubbed the wet vitamin C tablet (inside the bandaid) against the lesion until it stung.
On the other sites, I continued to just rub a vitamin C tablet on them, as before. These are just normal drugstore 500 mg vitamin C tablets.
The next day I could feel something more happening under the bandaid. There was more of a crust, and it was turning into a scab. It felt like it was burning into my flesh. I left the bandaid on, and the same tablet in place. By the next morning there was a definite scab. Throughout the day, I re-wet the tablet under the bandaid, and also rubbed the non-bandaided spots, as before.
By comparing what was happening to the non-bandaided spots to the one under the bandaid, it was clear that more progress was being made by keeping the wet tablet right against the lesion. I now had a raised dried blood scab the same size as the original lesion, under the bandaid, while the non-bandaided spots were still slowly forming a crust. I admit that there was more pain under the bandaid, as the vitamin C ate away the lesion, than there was on the other spots. But it was not unbearable, and I was happy to have such a quick response.
Once the scab was a good thick dried-blood crust, with a flat rim of hard pink swelling around the perimeter (three days under the bandaid - with two days prior to that just being rubbed with a vitamin C tablet, and re-wet several times a day...five days in all) I took the bandaid off, washed the site, applied lavender essential oil to the spot, and left it alone. By the next morning, the pink hard swelling had softened, and by that evening the scab's edges had begun to flake off a little. It is now two days later, and there is no swelling at all, the scab is reduced by half and appears to be healing like any normal wound. There is no stinging tenderness there at all when I rub my finger across the site, like there was before I started this whole process.
Tomorrow I see my doctor and will be interested to have his take on the process. I am curious to know if I got it all.
Note: I also am taking 1,000 mg of vitamin C 3 times a day, and sometimes 4 times a day, along with an alkalinizing diet, heavy on greens. |
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PHK
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 19:40:48
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If Vybe is still out there, would be curious to hear how things turned out with the Vitamin C therapy.
I just started reading this forum yesterday, dealing with a BCC issue right now and searching for information, and so much good stuff is here that I am taking a serious look at.
One theme I do seem to notice from many threads are people trying a therapy and reporting on their progress...and then not reporting the final results. I imagine in some cases...they aren't successful and succumb to the knife, and therefore don't have any interest in coming back here. Or perhaps (and I hope!) where successful and without malice, left this site behind. Though I'd like to think that success stories would be something they would want to share...so I really wonder how many really just aren't successful and they wind up going with traditional medicine.
Just food for thought. I read threads that are encouraging, but wind up leaving the outcome unknown.
I am just getting started and hope I can make some contribution here as I go through this process...but to start out will probably just ask questions.
Thanks to all. |
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PHK
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 19:51:41
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Luxy, I look forward to hearing how you make out.
One question I have for you and others...there seems to be a consensus that because there is stinging and scabbing, that it's "the cancer getting killed."
Are there any thoughts that these reactions to some of these therapies...vinegar, vitamin c, eggplant, etc...is due to the acidic or other effects on lesions, and causing removal and scabbing and eventual healing of the top layer of skin...but the cancer is still there in the basal layer?
I have a lot of reading to do here, but are there any threads anyone is aware of where the writer tried a topical therapy, got results, and a subsequent clean bill of health at the end, and/or at least no visible evidence of cancer many months later?
For instance, I have used efudex, and all appeared well after the site healed...but invevitably the lesion returned albeit many months later.
Thanks to all.
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Baileyone
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2009 : 22:21:43
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| Just wanted to share some of my experience. BCC on my right temple had grown to about 3/4 of an inch long with a ragged outline. It also had become black. I decided to look for alternative measures to treat it. I purchased a bottle of Vit - C (1000 mg tablets). I crushed them and blended up a rather watery mix. After a few days I could see very promising action taking place. The black was gone and the area had been reduced. After a few more days I added more powder and made the mixture much more potent. The area started to sting and burn for a few minutes after I applied the mixture. After two weeks the area was about a 3rd of the original size. I now am letting it rest. It has been 4 days and the area has scabed over. I expect it to fall off sometime next week. I will keep everyone posted. My co-workers and family are amazed with the results. I do have an appointment with a skin specialist in Oct. |
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Baileyone
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2009 : 19:07:18
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| Greetings from CT... It has been (1)week and 3 days since I stoppped using the Vit. C paste. The area is absolutely clean. There is no build up under the skin. I only have a slight pink color where the BCC was growing. Looking back you can determine when its time to stop treatment and let it heal when the burning and stinging becomes intense. I believe that when the BCC cells are gone, your healthy cells are what is reacting to the paste. I should also add that during the (2) week treatment period I started a fasting program. I would fast for 12 - 16 hours each day. Sounds... a little over the top perhaps, but I could feel a overall change in my body's ability to help with the healing process. EG... If I had a snack around 8PM then I would not have anything until 12 noon the next day. Tom |
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dan
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Posted - 10/06/2009 : 00:32:24
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Tom, thanks for sharing your good results with vitamin C paste. Hopefully the healing will continue. I think I understand the ending criteria but it doesn't seem like there would be a clear enough signal for me. But I guess you could perhaps alternate rest and treatments for a while just to be sure it is gone. Also, have you applied the vitamin C paste for 2 weeks total so far?
Interesting about the daily fasting helping the healing process. There could be lots of reasons for this. Fasting reduces levels of blood sugars that feed cancers. Daily fasting also lets your pancreas supply more systemic enzymes that I think are the body's front line defense against cancers, instead of these enzymes being devoted to digestion. Less time to eat food results in less body fat and that means lower levels of free estrogens to fuel cancer growth.
Anyway, we really appreciate your posts and I am sure they will help others. Please let us know how it goes from here. |
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Baileyone
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2009 : 22:03:08
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| Greetings from CT. Coming up on 3 weeks and no sign of any return or other issues. Thank you Dan for your comments. Looking back I actually treated (2) problems in the same area. I had a classis BCC nodule with a dimple and a raised Actinic Keratose area next to it. I treated both areas at the same time. The KC cleared up first, but the BCC took about a week longer to dry up and fall off. Both were growing at the time I began the treatment. I can't tell you how excited I was to watch both disapear. There is no doubt that this approach works. The healthy cells around both spots suffered absolutely no impact from the treatment. People who had seen it stop and just can't believe the change. I will keep up my comments and I hope that things do not change... Feel free to email me... Tom |
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Baileyone
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2009 : 22:40:58
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I am in a sharing mood. So here is my approach. Each day I would get home about 5:00 PM. I would applied the mixture and let it dry. After an hour I would wash it off and reapply. I would do this all evening until bed time. The last application stayed on all night. During the day I allowed it to stay dry. This was to avoid having to explain the white paste on the side of my face... Friends were already familar with the growth. (2) weeks does not seem very long for the process to be complete, but that was it. I stopped and the area continued to disapear. I should explain that about (5) years ago I had what I will call a sunburst removed. The Dr. said it might grow back bigger etc. What actually grew back was the BCC and AK. I absolutely recommend this approach. Just try it. Play with the mixture until you get the desired results. I wish I had taken some pictures. One day I had a black raised Actinic Keratose 3/4 inch long with a ragged edge, and below it a round BCC with a dimple in it. After (2) weeks both were gone. The area under the BCC has normal color and texture. The skin under the AK area has a slight pick tint to it. Similar to a healed scar. Friends stop me and ask who the doctor is that treated me, because it looks that good.
Thank you for reading my information... Tom |
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Shafah
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Posted - 11/10/2009 : 02:06:34
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I would like to thank everyone for sharing their experiences with the Vitamin C treatment. I really like this approach and I will start it on my BCC on my chest. Also, is it recommended and advisable to do the Vitamin C treatment on more than one location at the same time? I feel that there are some smaller ones on other areas of my chest as well as some on my back left shoulder.
Any feedback from personal experiences would be highly appreciated.
Thanks. |
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