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fforest
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 Posted - 06/29/2007 : 19:54:55
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I would like to share my experience with Eggplant as a treatment for skin cancer...This information is very new so I will add more later...This treatment needs more testing before it can say this is a cure or on the A list of treatments...
As people on this forum know I have been raving about sunspot ES cream for a while...While I still like sunspot ES cream I have grown unhappy with its limitations...1 It does not penetrate the skin as good as I would like with out dmso..2 It only works where applied...3 You can only buy it by mail order..4 It crust up on the skin easy...
Doing some research on glycoalkaloids found in sunspot.....I read this here * Eggplant or aubergine (Solanum melongena) has been examined, and has been shown to contain the exact replica of BEC. This means that a fruit, which is eaten as a vegetable throughout the world, contains BEC. Each eggplant contains 7 to 25 mg of BEC per 100 grams of fruit. Eggplant contain more BEC than Curaderm.
http://www.cura-care.com/curaderm-safety.htm
I then read this article here... http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/melanoma.html
Which gave me the idea to make a poultice out of the eggplant and apply it to the skin....I think the vinegar may help release the glycoalkaloids I am not sure really all I know is that it worked for me...
I got a eggplant and cut it up and put it in the blender.I then put in a mostly vinegar and some water and blended..Only add as much liquid as needed because you want the mix thick with some texture...
If you blend it to much it turns into liquid...
I have had some very nasty bloody lesions on my head..Swollen very nasty things..Plus a good bit of skin cancer on my face..
I applied the eggplant to my head and face and let it sit for 2-3 hours and massaged the eggplant into my lesions...The lesions let off a good bit of heat...The swelling went way way down and all the bloody cancer spots looked 100% better within hours..I have been doing this every day for about 5 days.....All my skin conditions are looking so much better that I hope to not be posing here any more....
The glycoalkaloids in the eggplant seem to get into the skin much better than with the sunspot cream even though the eggplant poulitce is not as strong(Note sunpsot cream is great stuff and can be used were needed after you use the eggplant}...This seems to make for a nicer healing and a nice clean crusting of the cancer spots...
I want to say I have been treating my cancer spots with orange oil for a few weeks before this so maybe the orange oil had already done some heavy lifting before I applied the eggplant...
I like the action of the orange oil on my skin cancer,it penetrates the skin wonderfully and seem to do some nice work cleaning up the cancer but I found the orange oil lacking in the ability to finish the job..The orange oil has very poor pulling action on the cancer...It does a good job identifying the cancer patches on the skin and starting to heal them but I really felt the orange oil needs some help and maybe that help will come from eggplant...
The eggplant and the orange oil have the huge advantage over other things is you can apply then every where and let them find the skin cancer...Skin cancer loves to hide and if you have a little skin cancer their is a good chance you have a bit more you do not see...
I would love some feedback on this treatment from other people...One really great thing folks is the eggplant hardly hurts at all its cheap and easy to apply....
See Below for full report....
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fforest
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Posted - 06/30/2007 : 06:14:22
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Info on Glycoalkaloids...Skin answer was the first name for sunspot cream before it was renamed...
http://www.cancerchoices.com/skinanswer_ref.htm
Also the orange oil and eggplant mixture are a bit harsh on the skin aloe vera seems to be a good thing to put on afterwards....
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Edited by - fforest on 08/04/2007 20:07:53 |
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/30/2007 : 10:47:06
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Thank you for this excellent post. A well known cancer doctor in my area is recommending eating lots of vegetables that are rich in anti-cancer nutrients. He mentions that organic is better - if available.
In the SkinAnswer link from your post it is written "Glycoalkaloids are produced in many fruits and vegetables as part of their defense against insects and other animals." It seems obvious that if Glycoalkaloids are produced by the plant as defense mechanisn against insects, it is important to actually have insects trying to attcak the plants! If we use insecticides, it must lower the Glycoalkaloids (and other cancer fighting molecules) content since the plants do not have to fight insects anymore. So it would be preferable to use organic eggplant. I am sure there is still Glycoalkaloids in the non-organic variety, but probably much less.
Come to think of it, the fact that most of the vegetables on the market are not organic and lacking these cancer fighting compounds may partly explain why cancer is on the rise in general.
Nevertheless, eating lots of veggies even if not organic is a plus - that is for sure. But if you apply the eggplant on a cancer spot, wouldn't it be best to use the eggplant with the most Glycoalkaloids? The organic variety, the one that is not perfect from an esthetic point of view because it had to fight insects and other critters, may be the best choice for medicinal purpose.
Just a thought. Thank you for this great post. We learn everyday on this forum. It is encouraging to read good news like that. |
Edited by - Mexico on 06/30/2007 15:53:13 |
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Joe
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Posted - 06/30/2007 : 18:07:20
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Hi Forrest, was there any eschar or anything like that such as when using the Curaderm?
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fforest
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Posted - 07/01/2007 : 02:48:29
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| Joe when using Curaderm or sunspot you do not get eschars per say..You some time get scabs but not true eschars... |
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fforest
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Posted - 07/01/2007 : 02:58:43
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| Mexico that is a good idea to use organic eggplant...I went to Whole Foods and bought 3 different kinds of eggplants and mixed them together... |
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anivoc
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Posted - 07/01/2007 : 17:34:41
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This is good stuff...I was curious if our "eggplant" would be the same as the Australian " devils apple". exciting to hear you are having positive results.
Firstly I want to address Vinegar.
The active ingredient in vinegar is acetic acid. Most vinegar is @ 3 to 5%. I have been using vinegar off and on over the last year as a treatment in itself and along side first curaderm then sunspot.
The acid neutralizes the high PH that occurs in our skin via all the bad things we eat like meat etc.
When I apply vinegar to my face every potential AK and BCC light up, burn and itch. When Dr. Mohs ( The doctor who invented Mohs surgery) was using Bloodroot to identify "fixate" skin cancer tumors he would first clean the suspect area with acetic acid before he applied the bloodroot paste.
For certain I eradicated an AK on the back of my neck that was scabing and bleeding strictly using vinegar. For whatever reason other problem areas did not go away.
I was using vinegar every day after my shower but it is stinky and I quit. I have started back up and Sunspot definitely reacts better when I clean the area I am treating first with vinegar.
It's odd / coincidental that you mixed it with the eggplant / I was thinking about making a solution of Sunspot and vinegar this morning before I read your post.
Forest if you haven't already, start taking pictures and keep us updated. It would be awesome if this is the answer..similar to the broccoli idea .. good luck! as you know I am in a very similar boat as you and it is frustrating up to now. Certainly seem to be holding the ones I have at bay, maybe even shrinking them but just not closing the door completely.
Tom
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fforest
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Posted - 07/03/2007 : 01:55:03
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| One thing I have noticed is if you let the eggplant mix sit for a day it seems to work better..I will write more later... |
Edited by - fforest on 07/03/2007 04:58:52 |
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dan
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 00:18:36
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| fforest, this is great and I hope it keeps going! We would love to lose you as a poster. (just kidding!) Can you summarize the timeline of what you tried in the past few weeks? |
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dan
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Posted - 07/12/2007 : 01:01:21
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I thought it would be helpful to excerpt the reference fforest cited at earthclinic:
"It got rid of the melanoma in about 2 weeks.
Recipe: Ingredients
medium sized eggplant
white vinegar
Method: chop up eggplant & place in a glass jar (not plastic) Pour in enough vinegar to cover eggplant, cover with a lid & place in the door of the fridge for 3 days.
Every time you go to fridge for something, give the jar a little shake. After 3 days the liquid will turn a gold brown colour, strain the liquid & keep refrigerated in the glass jar. How to use: Can be dabbed on to melanoma several times a day or can soak a cotton ball in the liquid, place on top of melanoma & cover with tape (low allergenic kind) change at least twice a day. Need to do this for at least 2 weeks to kill off the melanoma. It only attacks the bad cells. The doctor said if it was a melanoma,after a few applications it could be quite painful when it goes after the nasties. If it didn't pain, unlikely to be of a menacing nature. (it also works on warts) Do it under a doctors supervision though. It definitely works,I have seen the wart disappear & the resident I referred to had a painful healing for a few days but it cleared up after a couple of weeks."
Both this method and fforest's are easy enough to make. Notice this method used white vinegar. fforest, what kind of vinegar did you use? |
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fforest
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Posted - 07/12/2007 : 03:15:53
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| I used apple cider vinegar... Using the eggplant and vinegar mix and the orange oil maybe with a bit of sunspot applied where needed I believe this could be a huge huge help in treating skin cancer....After all my problem spots have healed 100% I will be writing a long and detailed report.... |
Edited by - fforest on 08/04/2007 20:39:59 |
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fforest
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Posted - 07/14/2007 : 16:16:39
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| If anyone tries the eggplant mixture and or orange oil please post your results good or bad...I am having great results with this....The eggplant mix is very easy to make and super cheap..Its easy to apply but can be a bit messy...My cancer spots have started to look better within hours,but to heal 100% is going to take a bit of time...I will write a full report later.... |
Edited by - fforest on 07/14/2007 16:17:02 |
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anivoc
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Posted - 07/15/2007 : 17:13:16
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Man I hope this works!
Just to update you on my sunspot ES. It appears now that I am at an impasse. Certainly the sunspot does some good but the BCC on my forhead just won't go away. I am dealing with an area over my left eye @ 1" diameter that I had treated with blood root before and gone through a lot of pain and misery. The bloodroot did get it pretty good but a year later things started coming back. Now I first tried Curaderm which like sunspot got a reaction but jut can't take it out. There are several small lesions within the area. One will appear to heal and another one pops up elsewhere within the 1" area. There are usually 3 or 4 of these small sores going on at any one time I have been walking around with 3m micropore tape on my forehead for 6 months now... ugh!
I shower every day and treat after the shower. I was cleaning all treated areas with vinegar..BTW apple or regular vinegar really shouldn't matter... what is working is the acetic acid which is in both and varies from brand to brand. You can also buy acetic acid in stronger solutions and guess what..it smells like vinegar.
Anyway I have started a new cleaning treatment which is seeming to irritate or do something that seems positive..
In the shower I first wash my hair and face with Trader Joes "Refresh" Body soap. I leave the soap soaking in my hair and face. I take a quarter sheet of a paper towel and wet it. I then reach out of the shower and pour a teaspoon or so of baking soda on the towel and then rub it around in the towel evenly. I then scrub my face ( kind of a micro dermabrasion) and any bcc's on my scalp with the towel and let the concoction sit for a few minutes... definitely starts tingling.
I then rinse it all off and dry off. I immediately apply the sunspot es to any area that has BCC's or AK's. The ones on my forehead that are actual sores get covered with the 3m micropore tape as I have described in the past with some trader joes refresh body lotion w / vitamin C to make the solution last longer and the tape come off easier. I then rub / massage the cream into the areas that are AK and that's that for the day. I'm sure I'm holding things at bay , maybe making a little progress but unfortunately I don't see this knocking it out completely.
I'm kind of waiting to hear you are sure this is a slam dunk and if so
I'll be eggplanting immediately.
Another thought was to do a broccoli / eggplant mix but if this works
I won't bother.. keep us posted.
Tom
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fforest
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 18:32:16
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OK here is my final report on the eggplant orange oil sunspot treatment for skin cancer....
First off for people who do not know me I have tried many many of the treatments for skin cancer to many to list..The only ones I have not tried are.
Efudex-which I never want to try after seeing pictures of this treatment.
Aldara-which I would be open to trying but haven't...
PDQ Herbal-Which is just like C-herb which I have tried
Radiation-Which I never want to try..
High tech laser and sound wave treatments-looks interesting but these are not easy to find cost big money lots of waiting etc..They could be great I do not know I never tried them...
I now think using a combination of
eggplant/vinegar-maybe with a bit of dmso
Orange oil
sunspot cream-maybe with dmso
a little hydrogen peroxide
Is the best combination for treating skin cancer..
With this combination you can treat skin cancer with minimal pain and minimal cost.
Cost.
2-3 Eggplants 5-6 dollars
Vinegar 1 bottle 4 dollars
Sunspot cream 1 tube 25 dollars
Hydrogen Peroxide 2 dollars
Cotton balls 1 dollar
orange oil 6 dollars
Dmso-??? many prices under 10 dollars..
Aloe vera jell (whole leaf)??? many prices
Total (around give or take) 50-55 dollars to treat skin cancer
note..If you had a really deep and nasty BCC you might need to add C-herb or some thing else to this list...
The orange oil eggplant/vinegar is a absolutely deadly combination against skin cancer.
Cancer builds up resistance fast to any kind of treatment..
With the orange oil eggplant/vinegar combination it seem to break the cancers resistance because they work in such different ways,one being very acidic and the other being very alkaline....
I had a many small scaly patches that never quite healed and if you picked at them they would bleed ..I had 2 or 3 nasty lesions on the top of my head that were crusty and would bleed easy..I had 2 really swollen deep BCC on my arm very red and nasty looking,I had a whole bunch of problem spots on my face and one big BCC that was on my right temple that was tender to the touch it was still under the skin but growing fast I could really feel it...
I have been treating all of these problem spots for about a month or so now and they are about 95% healed..
If any one tries this combination I would recommend treating your problem spots and areas for 1 or 2 days with orange oil then 1 or 2 days with eggplant vinegar and maybe taking a rest day or 2 every now or then..Or what ever combination works for you..On the days you treat your problems really try for 2 treatments in one day it works better.The treatments can be back to back..
When putting the orange oil on the cancer spots for the first week its going to sting like crazy for a short time but it will stop after about 15 minutes..As the cancer heals more the stinging will get less and less....
You can use the eggplant/vinegar mix in 2 ways one just put the blended pulp on the skin and let it sit for about a hour or 2 ..The good thing about the pulp is you can put it all over your face or arm or where ever it will not hurt the healthy skin but will find the cancer spots..The same goes for the orange oil you can put it every where...
The 2nd way I have used the eggplant/vinegar is to strain the vinegar from the pulp after blending and dip a cotton ball in the vinegar juice and put the Cotton ball on the problem spot use tape this is less messy ..If you wanted to get it really strong you could use the same vinegar from a few different eggplants in the blender,blend then strain,blend then strain using the same vinegar...and or put a little Dmso in the mix..
So I primarily used the orange oil/ammonia eggplant/vinegar mix some times putting on a little sunspot cream here and there.Occasionally using some some Hydrogen Peroxide on the spots to throw the cancer even more off balance and to keep the spots clean...
One thing that did happen on my face is I got a number of hard zit like spots at one point(maybe it was from the cancer spots dieing)so I took them off and had a scab for a few days..
Every one of my bad spots I wrote about is now 90 to 95 to 100% healed depending on the spot..My face looks great..
I hope if some one else tries this they will have the same results as me...Best Fforest
Post note...Just to add a bit more here..First use apple cider vinegar,White vinegar just does not seem to work very good..
2nd Putting the eggplant mix/pulp on the site seems to work best..
3rd. I also tried adding ammonia to the orange oil and got a very nice result the orange oil works fine alone but seem to work a whole lot better with a little ammonia...I used the household 3% ammonia..But you have to be very careful not to get it in your eyes,but other than your eyes it seems very safe to use,look this up your self....I know putting ammonia on your skin my not seem like the best idea.All I can say is you just must try this for your self to know how great this works...The ammonia will help the orange oil penetrate the skin much better...
4th..Whole leaf Aloe vera jell is a great thing to put on your skin after treatment...
5th For the cancer spots deeper in the skin you can massage the spot with sunspot cream and dmso and or massage the spot with the orange oil...
6th Folks Treating skin cancer is a ugly and painful thing to have to do its no fun but going under the knife or Chemo or doing nothing can be even worse..If this treatment plan fails ok then more drastic measures are in order..Start with the least invasive things and work your way up....
7th You can try only one thing in this treatment plan if you want and thats ok but every thing is here beacuse it works good together.
You can get every thing you need in 1 hour ( come on folks how many hours have you spent in the dermatologist office?) except the sunspot cream and the maybe the dmso..A good heath food store sells dmso...If your problem is small the sunspot cream can work fine alone...
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Edited by - fforest on 09/25/2007 18:55:55 |
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dan
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 01:10:14
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| This is fantastic news fforest! I'm really happy for you! I think you mentioned elsewhere that you used Citrisolve for the orange oil, regular apple cider vinegar, ordinary eggplants, and 3% hydrogen peroxide. Everything except the SunSpot ES gel by Lane Labs and DMSO can be found in most supermarkets for about $20 total. I'm wondering if you feel that SunSpot and DMSO are essential to get started, or if you can add them if need be later? |
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fforest
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 02:04:18
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| You could start with only the orange oil for a week or two..The orange oil seems to do some heavy lifting at the start...But every thing seems to work good together as one treatment plan... |
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Mark
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 21:11:20
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| I wonder how eggplant soaked in DMSO instead of vinager would work? Then put the solution of DMSO on the site. I'm going to try it and will let you all know. I've tried so many things now, its going to be hard to tell what worked in the end if I do indeed get rid of it. |
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Mark
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 17:02:46
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I tried using the solution described above by fforest. I minced the eggplant with a garlic mincer until I had a small olive jar about half full. Then I poured straight (no water added) 5% organic vinegar to just cover all the eggplant "mush". The second day i put the juice on the BCC site every 2 hours or so. It would burn a bit, but then calm down. By the end of the first day, the BCC looked worse. More swollen, and now bleeding again (hadn't bled for 2 weeks). I was however thinking this is good as it seemed different than before using a pancreatin solution. Can't really describe the difference other than the swelling seemed more exagerated. I believe my BCC is very deep, so it was good in that it was getting to the bad cells for once. I was also adding a swab of DMSO solution just after the eggplant solution. It would definately burn worse just after the DMSO application. The DMSO was a 80% DMSO/H20 with pancreatin, ground apricot seeds, coral calcium, and ginger added.
Anyway, after 1 day of this, i got home and started putting it on every 10 minutes for about 3 times. Then I decided to add some orange oil. Then I held a cotton swab of H202 on it until it turned white in the middle. Back to adding DMSO, eggplant, orange oil....over and over again. The next thing I knew, it lit up like a christmas tree! I've never seen this before, but the shape and location of the cancer cells was VERY obvious now. It would turn pink, and then i'd add more of the eggplant solution and bam...there was the oddball shape. When I say it lit up, the cancer cells turned a bright white compared to the skin around it. And it was a BIG contrast. I took pictures and will post them soon. I've put MUCH orange oil and all the other stuff (much H202, pancreatin, DMSO) on it before and it never lit up. There is something in the eggplant mixture causing it. Maybe the eggplant, maybe the vinegar, i dont know.
So i'm thinking this is the first time I really got some solution TO the bad cells and actually affected them. Or maybe this combination was just enough to affect the cells. I was feeling like I was at a stalemate before yesterday. It wasn't getting better, wasn't getting worse. Good or bad...only time will tell if the fact its lighting up white means anything. But this is definately different. Will keep you all posted. |
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dan
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 20:22:35
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| Thanks Mark, this is really interesting about combining several ingredients and also about the cancer cells turning white! Looking forward to the pictures. Let us know if you have any trouble posting them. |
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fforest
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 22:47:46
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| Dan I want to make a few changes to my first post why wont the forum let me make a change? |
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dan
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 01:03:49
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| Thanks fforest, there was a bug in the forum software but I think it is now fixed. Let me know if it still does not work. Anyone should be able to edit their own posts. I feel terrible if this has not been the case. |
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fforest
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Posted - 08/03/2007 : 03:35:44
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| Mark please see my post note above.. |
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Mark
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Posted - 08/03/2007 : 18:17:32
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fforest - thanks for the update post! I'll try it as well. I've actually been putting a Pancreatin solution on after placing the eggplant mixture right on the spot. The solution i've made has the ammonia, and the aloe vera in it. And it seems to be working. I spend a good 45 minutes in the evening really working the eggplant, orange oil, DMSO and H202 into the site until the cancer cells (or at least what appears to be) turn nice and white - a distict border. It does burn, but not too bad. During the day i just dab it on about once every 2 hours. The area that seems to be cancerous is starting to feel like a lump of dead skin, though i can't be too sure just yet. The center pit still seems pretty raw. Once it is all dry, the area surrounding the lesion outside the cancerous area is also turning a darker brown now, almost like its bruised. About the size of a nickel or quarter. This is all new, as without the eggplant solution nothing was really happening. All in all, it seems to be working dispite the fact it looks worse. I'm supposed to have surgery on Moday....but I plan to cancel. I'll probably re-schedule as a backup plan, but I think I need to give this more time. The hardest part is the skeptics around you that SEE it getting worse looking. Most of the skeptics are the ones that think soda's, candy, and the Atkins diet (limited fruits and veggies) are heathy! For 3-4 weeks now i've been eating almost nothing but stuff with no nutrition label (i.e. fruits, veggies, water), and I must say that i have never felt better. I'm still convinced diet is a huge part of this.
For those that have had success, have you notice that the lesion heals from the outer perimiter in, inside out, or just all evenly at the same time? |
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fforest
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Posted - 08/04/2007 : 07:17:46
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| Lesions heal in many different ways no set way...Dont forget sunspot cream maybe with dmso in your bag of tricks...Sunspot cream is good good stuff,it will be the best 25 dollars you will ever spend... |
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dan
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 00:38:41
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| fforest, it looks like in your latest edit that you now combine orange oil and ammonia. I assume you apply one and then the other rather than mix them beforehand, right? Also, everyone should realize that if ammonia gets into the eyes it can cause permanent damage. Also, ammonia comes in various strengths. Strong ammonia can cause severe skin burns. Household ammonia (3%) is not likely to cause skin burns, however. Always have rinsing water available for an eye wash if using ammonia topically. |
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fforest
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 02:58:38
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| Yes I should have said I used 3% ammonia..I mixed just a little in with the orange oil...It seems to work a lot better..The orange oil works fine alone but better with the ammonia in my opinion..Dan when you had said you had used ammonia I was afaid to try it,but after I did I was very very surprised at how nice it worked..I think I will change the edit back and put a foot note.....And good point about dangers of getting it in your eyes... |
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dan
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 01:01:38
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Here is an MSDS for Citrisolve orange oil. http://www.windtrax.com/images/MSDS/IJ-100_MSDS.pdf Orange oil should also be kept out of the eyes. It is interesting that its pH is 9.0 (somewhat alkaline). Combining orange oil with household ammonia (pH=11-12) makes it more alkaline. I think ammonia possibly promotes cancer cell apoptosis (programmed cell death, a good thing) based on recent studies of caffeine and exercise leading to less skin cancer. Exercise leads to higher ammonia levels in the body and caffeine inhibits its breakdown.
Just for completeness, an MSDS for vinegar is at http://www.gfs.com/content_us/msds/files/107239.pdf 10% acetic acid vinegar has a pH of 2.2 (very acidic), more typical 5% apple cider vinegar has a pH of 2.9 . I wonder if adding ammonia to a vinegar (acid)-eggplant solution is a good idea. I would keep the orange oil-ammonia and vinegar-eggplant treatments separate and apply them on different days. But who knows, maybe a pH shock is more detrimental to cancer cells than normal cells.
Keep in mind that if a compound has a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) it does not imply that it is unsafe. MSDS's are available for almost any chemical and are simply a safe use and handling guide. MSDS sheets often contain valuable information not directly related to safety.
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La T
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Posted - 08/21/2007 : 20:18:46
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My two cents: while I did use the kitchen sink approach (orange oil, aloe, coconut oil, HP-a little, pancreatin-maybe 3x, Colloidal Silver-had some already for eye problem, Cymillium-took so long to arrive used maybe 2 days, eggplant/vinegar) I feel the eggplant/vinegar mixture was the one that worked.
I used apple cider vinegar as it is a wonder healer for other holistic uses.
Also I did NOT refridgerate it (so used it about 6 days like that). I thought a slight fermentation would possibly increase it's potentcy and ability to penetrate. Also I slopped it on-not the dunk the cotton ball technique. Each time I removed the pulp the skin looked better, was whiter-even right off the bat-encouraging. Please see my other posts on 2 other threads on this forum along with a link to my very detailed blog:
http://greenandclean.livejournal.com/
I believe it is totally gone now. This forum has been invaluable. Thanks to all! |
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dan
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Posted - 08/26/2007 : 14:06:46
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La T, thanks for the great news! I recommend your blog to anyone considering trying this skin cancer home remedy.
Anyone else, we are always looking for more feedback even if it happens to be the same as comments already posted. The more feedback, the better information for others to consider. Thanks! |
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Don
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 15:37:36
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I hope I am doing this right. I have never written on a blog before. But I wanted to thank everyone and to tell everyone who is considering trying the eggplant mixture, TRY IT !!!!
I am a fair skinned redhead who has lived in the South all my life, and I have had skin problems about that long. I have had MOHs on a BCC on my nose, suffered through a complete Effudex tx on my face, hands and arms, and have tried Cansema Black Salve. The Effudex made me look and feel just like the gentleman who posted a photojournal link somewhere on this forum. It does a good job, but it's a lengthy process, painful, and leaves you looking like a "mess" for a long period of time (you do NOT want to be seen in public). And the worse part is....a lot of the places have returned, although they may be new spots, I don't know. I have tried spot treating with Effudex, and that doesn't work well. I thought the black salve was an answer to my prayers when I found it a few years ago. The problem with it was that it tends to be very selective about the places it would react to, and when it did react, it would quite often leave a scar. The front of my chest is peppered with small white scars where I have treated numerous places. But at the time, I felt the trade-off was worth it. Then I found this forum. I was intrigued by all the items and combination of things that everyone has tried, but the eggplant- vinegar mixture really caught my attention. With an eggplant and just enough vinegar to keep the blender blades from sticking, I made a mixture that looked a lot like homemade applesauce. Not knowing what the stuff would do, I decided to first try in on the back of my hands. The backs of my hands were the worse looking with flaking AK's and a few raised lumps which are probably BCC's. My hands have also been the most resistant to treatment with both the Effudex and the Cansema, so I figured if this stuff worked on my hands, it should work anywhere. What I did was spread on enough of the mixture to cover the back of each hand at night before I went to bed and just left it on all night. I tend to sleep on my back so I placed a towel under each hand so it wouldn't make such a mess. Obviously if you roll around in your sleep or have a bed partner, this wouldn't work so well for you. In the morning I find that the mixture has dried and you can peel it off like a facial mask. I am sure that the physical peeling off of the eggplant helps also to remove dead skin cells. I am happy to say that I am EXTREMELY pleased with the results. I have been doing this nightly for exactly 3 weeks now and my hands have never looked better. I was hoping the process would be faster and if I were applying the "sauce" throughout the day, it probably would be. But from day 1 my skin looked better and almost daily, the scaly areas are getting smaller. I just hope that it doesn't reach a point where there is no further improvement. Until then I will continue to use the eggplant sauce, and as soon as my hands have cleared, I am going to try it on my face. The challenge here will be to keep the stuff from running into the eyes. That would probably not feel too good.
For anyone who is considering doing this, PLEASE DO. What have you got to lose? And for those who have contributed your time to this forum to help others like me......THANK YOU !!!!!!!! |
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sammy
USA
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 21:29:53
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| Don, perhaps a "sleep mask" would keep the mixture from running into your eyes. I'm sure you could find them on the Internet. I bought one eons ago from TravelSmith when I was flying between Atlanta & London. It does fit snugly, but doesn't bind and it is made of soft material so it won't leave marks on your face. I just don't know if they are still available. So glad this is working for you. |
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pete francis
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 11:22:32
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| Fforest, A number of days have passed now since you have written about your eggplant treatment. Did it ever clear up the bcc's? If not all of them, did any of them go away completely? |
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anivoc
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 12:47:12
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Congratulations Forest!
Please keep us posted as to your ongoing treatment.
It is really exciting to think we may be on to an inexpensive treatment protocol that works 100% of the time.
I've mentioned it in the past and I reiterate that we are lay people that are not very scientific in our approach.
The "everything but the kitchen sink" approach is what seems to be getting the best results by most of us here.
I believe in my heart that the eggplant vinegar combo is the nuclear bomb.
The kitchen sink includes..
35% Hydrogen peroxide
Orange oil
Pancreatin enzymes
Vitamin C
DMSO
Caffeine
Being as I have plenty to test on I am going to try strictly the eggplant/ vinegar combo on one very resistant area on my forehead. I will document and photograph and report back with results.
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fforest
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Posted - 09/09/2007 : 15:48:53
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Pete the only thing I have changed sense I wrote the above is adding Lamisil to the mix...
All the above treatments work and work well to clear up BBCs and just about every other skin condition..Before I took the Lamisil I was having bad skin eruptions every week and have had no new skin lesions in a month now...
I believe strongly now that there is a connection between skin cancer and fungus... The Lamisil works slowly from the inside to knock off the fungus... The sunspot,the orange oil,and eggplant work great to clean up all kinds of skin conditions on the out side..Hopefully Lamisil is the right thing for the inside..Which as of now it looks like it is... |
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rx7eddie
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2007 : 02:02:40
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| thank you for this wonderful site, i check it almost everyday for anything new. i went to wild oats today to look for organic eggplant with no luck. but they did have baby eggplant which had me wondering if baby eggplant would be better or worse than regular eggplant. i also am goin down to the garden center tommorrow to see if i can find an eggplant seedling, as i would like to grow my own eggplant with lots of good rich organic fertalizers and soil. any ideas out there as to which varieties might be best? |
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dan
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 01:46:45
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Welcome rx7eddie! I would expect a distressed eggplant to have more of the active ingredients (glykoalkaloids) because they are believed to be used as a defense mechanism for fungus and possibly insects.
I would also like to point out that the glycoalkaloids in the eggplant and vinegar home remedy are apparently the same as the active ingredients in Curaderm, and in fact Curaderm is now derived from eggplants. The good news is that Curaderm claims to be 100% effective against basal and squamous cell carcinomas as well as AKs. Curaderm is also nearly ideal in terms of safety and cosmetic result. There is a lot of supporting scientific work in open literature performed by Bill Cham and colleagues as part of the Curaderm product research and development. See http://www.curaderm.net/publications/publications.aspx Based on the science, I think it is inexcusable that Curaderm is not considered a treatment option by most dermatologists.
There is a 1996 US patent on glykoalkaloids at http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5958770 by Bill Elliot Cham and Brian Daunter. (download the pdf) The patent is difficult to read like most patents but contains some very interesting information. For example, they evidently use DMSO as a carrier. Also, various sugars such as lactose (milk sugar) can deactivate the BEC. They also talk about the cellular mechanisms that the glycoalkaloids use to kill cancer cells. It looks like this BEC stuff can also be used as a contraceptive. Maybe you are aware that cancer cells act like trophoblasts cells in pregnancy, something John Beard noticed a hundred years ago.
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pete francis
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 12:37:45
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| I have been using curaderm on a bcc on my nose since 8/29. I will let you know how it works out. I think i see improvment but it is still early. Does anyone know FOR CERTAIN if the small very-white spots which appear are cancer cells? Thanks to all for taking the time to write of your efforts. I find it very helpful! |
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rx7eddie
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 13:13:51
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| interesting stuff here. im still tryin to figure out if eating nightshade veggies (eggplant, tomato, potatoes) to fight this from the inside is worth it. some websites warn of eating too many nightshades in fear of neurological damage, and arthritis problems. |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2007 : 21:25:09
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Originally posted by dan
The good news is that Curaderm claims to be 100% effective
Dan,
Being as I have spent over $400 on Curaderm amd used it on BCC's in several areas I can, with experience unfortunately say their claim is false.
Yes it did cause a reaction but I could never completely kill the tumors.
In a 1 inch area one part would heal up, which is supposed to mean it is cleared and another one in that 1 inch area would pop up. That one would heal out and where the last one healed it would reopen. A constant bandage..ugh!
I called, they said I needed to reapply more often. I did and still the same never ending circle. I am having better luck using sunspot es mixed with some vitamin e cream and then applying in the same way as curaderm. |
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SoFl
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2007 : 23:45:06
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| has anyone tried just the eggplant/apple cider vinegar mix and did you get a good or bad result? |
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thetweetsmeow
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 15:23:45
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Maybe I missed it in all the posts, but I didn't catch whether or not you use the skin of the eggplant in the mix. Also, can someone tell me if the orange oil has a burning sensation. If so, how long after the application does it burn? Will applying aloe help aleviate the burning? I will be trying this on my cat's skin cancer....and needless to say....he won't be able to tell me how he's feeling! Would the raw apple cider vinegar work better in the eggplant mix? I know I'm asking lots of questions, but since I'll have to put one of those nasty cone collars on my cat, I want to try the most painfree and expeditious remedies possible.
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2007 : 11:30:34
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Originally posted by SoFl
has anyone tried just the eggplant/apple cider vinegar mix and did you get a good or bad result?
I started using just th vinegar eggplant sauce this week on my face. Many AK's a few BCC's that I haven't been able to wipe out completely.
I wanted to give it solely a chance and see what it does without orange oil, or cymillium or anything else just the eggplant sauce. I purried it in my blender and I can rub it on and it pretty much just absorbs in on the AK areas. I put it on thicker on the BCC's and cover them with the 3m tape.. I'll report back in a few weeks on this procedure. Things are happening though the skin looks pretty good but that could just be the vinegar. |
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maugen
USA
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Posted - 09/21/2007 : 23:47:22
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I have had a small spot on my nose since May. It was found to be BCC last week. I checked the net for alternatives to surgery, which is being recommended and found this forum. I have not yet purchased orange oil, dmso or sunspot. I assume that would be Sunspot ES? I did get an organic eggplant. I had some apple cider vinegar so I blended the eggplant and added vinegar. I put some on right away. The first time I had a yellowish film over the spot. This spot is about one quarter of the size of a pencil eraser. Very small. Today is my third day. I guess the mixture is just getting to the stage that it is supposed to work best? However, I can see that for the first time in 4 months this spot looks to be healed over in just 3 days. It is red. I have only had vaseline and a bandaid to cover it between applications. After reading the speculations that cancer may be caused by candida, I used some ketaconazole ointment today. The dermatologist had given this anti-fungal to me for seborrhea (sp?). I figured it couldn't hurt. I am curious to know when to expect the redness to go away and how long I can use the original mixture of eggplant and vinegar. How often should I make a new mixture. Anything with vinegar should last, but does the chemical structure deteriorate? Thank you, Gayle
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anivoc
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Posted - 09/22/2007 : 10:13:42
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Originally posted by maugen
I am curious to know when to expect the redness to go away and how long I can use the original mixture of eggplant and vinegar. How often should I make a new mixture. Anything with vinegar should last, but does the chemical structure deteriorate? Thank you, Gayle
Hi Gayle
Not sure on the shelf life but agree it is probably a long time with the vinegar. As far as how long to apply before the cancer is killed, this is all new but I would assume until it isn't red anymore. I am treating several ak's and a couple Bcc's on my face right now. In the original post http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/melanoma.html the recipe is using just the resulting vinegar juice. I am using the eggplant puree that was made by soaking in vinegar for several days and then pureed in a blender.
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2007 : 16:45:24
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ok I'm experimenting with the eggplant vinegar so I'll post my results here. I took an organic eggplant, and cut it up with the skin on, then I smashed in into a blender so the blender was full of eggplant and added only enough apple cider vinegar to get it to mix(about six oz vinegar and a large eggplant).
The result was a thick brown paste which I am keeping in the refrigerator. When I want to use some, I put a little in a cup and let it sit out to evaporate even more so it's like a thick goopy paste. I figured that since the active ingredient is supposed to dissolve in vinegar, if you let some of the moisture evaporate the mixture will be more concentrated.
My first report after only a couple days is that I'm surprised how refreshing it is. It doesn't burn or sting and it actually really feels good. I'm expanding my use to more areas because I like the way it feels so much. I just put it on top of an area I'm almost done treating with efudex and it stung for a minute and then it soothed the itchy pain completely. Even if it ends up not being a cancer cure all, it seems to reduce inflammation and pain for me at least.
I applied some of the paste to a raised scaly area (like an AK or something) about 1cm that has been on my lower leg for a while and was on my list to get looked at...after leaving the paste on for 24 hours, the paste dried up. I just peeled off the dried up paste and was amazed that the spot is now barely noticeable. It is DEFINITELY far less noticable by sight or especially by feel. At this rate it will be history in a couple of days but I won't jump to conclusions yet. I reapplied paste and will peel this off in another 24 hours.
I'll report back in this thread with positive or negative results...but it's passed my first several tests...it's cheap, easy and it doesn't hurt and it works not by making it get worse (like efudex) but by making it get better straight away.
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 12:04:11
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My Eggplant update.
I've been using the eggplant/vinegar for about a week now. A couple of very small (1-2mm) lesions (I would guess ak or scc in situ) have completely disappeared with the eggplant mix as the only treatment.
I can't say for sure if they would have disappeared on their own or not because my history is that some small lesions clear themselves, or at least appear to before they come back again.
I am using it on other larger areas and although subjectively I'd say they look better, they have not cleared. I used it on my entire back a few times and it felt good..no burning or itching and no after effects. My back has a lot of atypical moles.
I had to take a few rest days on my lip because it was starting to do what efudex does...eating up the ak area but overall so far I am optimistic on the lip. Overall it looks and feels better and I liked how it was working. A few times I spiked the eggplant on the lip with
caffeine and chaga and mesima mushroom, which are both known to fight cancer. Supposedly in the old days chaga cured some king of lip cancer.
I bought some organic orange oil at Whole Foods and used it on two areas yesterday for a rest day with the eggplant. There was no significant burning or stinging but the Orange oil is a very lightweight oil and seemed to penetrate deep....plus this one I got smells great...like you rubbed an orange all over you.
Today when I applied my mix it stung which is a first. so, this was either due to the orange oil rest day yesterday, or due to the fact that the mix I'm using today is a week old and has been at room temperature for 36 hours or so. It definitely seemed to penetrate more and sting more. Whether that's good or bad, I can't say.
I know none of this is very scientific, but I guess maybe a consensus can evolve if everyone trying it posts.
Next week I go to see the derm so we'll see what he wants to slash and burn. I have a residual thing on my ear from a spot biopsied as "pre-cancer" and he froze it after the biopsy but it doesn't look like he cured it. I have been using the eggplant on that and so far no change to it's appearance. If he doesn't want to do anything on that I'm going to give Sunspot ES a try there.
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 22:30:11
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I have to say I am of the same consensus. As mentioned I decided to try just eggplant and vinegar to try and identify if this alone will eradicate ak's and bcc's. Same as SoFl the many AK's on my face seem to be shrinking getting better. I am still leary as I was using strictly vinegar several months ago and it too semi-cleared them up ..however this is different. They really do seem to be "melting" as it is described in one story about Dr. Cham's Curaderm.
On another note I have one of the nastiest BCC's I have ever had on the top of my head. @ 1" diameter and @ 1/4' tall..yuck! It has been there for a few years and I have tried a lot of things other than bloodroot on it to no avail including curaderm. To Curaderms defense I would not shave the area and cover it with a bandage. I just applied Curaderm everyday to the lesion. IT would irritate it butr couldn't knock it out.
enter eggplant vinegar... wow and ow! Originally I started with Sunspot mixed with vitamin e cream. It definitely started a reaction. Once I finnaly made my concoction of eggplant vinegar puree "EV" ad started applying it things have been getting painfully better. This thing is definitely shrinking and it is basically an open sore. I have made a special blend of EV with the puree, vitamin e oil ( thick stuff) and a small amount of dmso to carry the equivelent of BEC5 ( the active ingredient in eggplant named and patented by Dr. Cham to the lesion.
The thing is ugly but it appears to be getting flatter and smaller. I will start making a photo journal of this starting Tomorrow. I am hoping we are finally there.
I'll keep posting weekly as often as I can with updates.
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 11:09:24
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quote:
Originally posted by anivoc
I have to say I am of the same consensus. As mentioned I decided to try just eggplant and vinegar to try and identify if this alone will eradicate ak's and bcc's. Same as SoFl the many AK's on my face seem to be shrinking getting better. I am still leary as I was using strictly vinegar several months ago and it too semi-cleared them up ..however this is different. They really do seem to be "melting" as it is described in one story about Dr. Cham's Curaderm.
On another note I have one of the nastiest BCC's I have ever had on the top of my head. @ 1" diameter and @ 1/4' tall..yuck! It has been there for a few years and I have tried a lot of things other than bloodroot on it to no avail including curaderm. To Curaderms defense I would not shave the area and cover it with a bandage. I just applied Curaderm everyday to the lesion. IT would irritate it butr couldn't knock it out.
enter eggplant vinegar... wow and ow! Originally I started with Sunspot mixed with vitamin e cream. It definitely started a reaction. Once I finnaly made my concoction of eggplant vinegar puree "EV" ad started applying it things have been getting painfully better. This thing is definitely shrinking and it is basically an open sore. I have made a special blend of EV with the puree, vitamin e oil ( thick stuff) and a small amount of dmso to carry the equivelent of BEC5 ( the active ingredient in eggplant named and patented by Dr. Cham to the lesion.
The thing is ugly but it appears to be getting flatter and smaller. I will start making a photo journal of this starting Tomorrow. I am hoping we are finally there.
I'll keep posting weekly as often as I can with updates.
Tom
Hi Tom.
I am starting to believe from experimentation that the mix gets more potent after time. The strongest action I've felt yet (testing on both new and previously treated spots) is with a week old mix (referigerated) that has now been setting out at room temperature for three days (covered). So maybe you or someone else can conduct your own experiments along those lines.
I think it's somehow a matter of getting the active ingredient out of the eggplant and in the active form. I've also decided to try next a banged up nasty looking organic eggplant on the idea that it may have had a rougher eggplant life and thus contain more of the active ingredient.
I am also coming to believe that spiking the mix with powdered caffeine enhances it's action. I'm doing some tests on that idea too.
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anivoc
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Posted - 09/29/2007 : 18:31:05
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Well today I am feeling like maybe just the Eggplant vinegar "EV" mixture alone is not going to pull this off.
My concern is that a major BCC on the top of my head, there is an ulceration that is now healing but it is with a lump which in all my previous experiences means the BCC is still alive and well. :(
I'm going to stick with just EV and DMSO for a few more days but might start adding orange oil to it if it continues to look like it does now.
The combo may be the way ..It would be nice to know that one unique ingredient is the magic bullet but maybe that is just not the case.
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anivoc
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fforest
103 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 19:42:02
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If any one knows of a 100% pure source for D-limonene please post..The citri-solv was the purest orange oil I could find at a store near me...
Butylated Hydroxyanisole cant be all bad if they put it in food..It sound like reading this that it has good things and bad things about it...
http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa082101a.htm |
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maugen
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 21:04:36
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| When first reading about using orange oil on this forum, and prior to seeing the photo of citra-solv, I automatically assumed the essential oils that you purchase at the healthfood stores is what was being suggested to use. I was under the impression that these essential oils are pure concentrated oils. |
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maugen
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 22:01:33
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I would like to share my experience with the eggplant/vinegar applications.
I started with the mixture of whole eggplant (organic) pureed and covered with organic apple cider vinegar. This had an applesauce-like consistancy. Somehow I missed the point of letting it sit for 3 days in the refigerator and put it on immediately. I posted above how it seemed to cover with a yellowish film the first day and within 3 days seemed to be nearly healed.
In the meantime, I had read how the original method was to cut up eggplant, large pieces, cover it with vinegar, let it sit refrigerated for 3 days and then use the vinegar solution produced. So, day four, that is what I used. It seemed to make the cancer spot look even better. I was very impressed. It was now reddish, but appeared to be healed over. The surrounding skin on my nose looked really good.
The next day, I put the vinegar solution on with a small gauze piece and covered it with tape. This is the same way I had done it the day before.
Up to this point all applications had felt very soothing.
Well, this day two of vinegar solution began to burn everywhere on my nose, good tissue mostly. I kept it on for a couple of hours. (The day before it had been on several hours.) I couldn't take it much longer, so I washed it off. My nose was blistered and burned pretty badly. I put vasoline on it and have kept it covered for 3 days, washing it and putting new vasoline and a bandage on twice a day. Today, the good skin looks fantastic and the cancer looks better than ever. Seems healed over to me. I do want to continue to put it on for two weeks, but I am not sure what may have caused the excoriation.
The second batch, the one that burned me, I had put into a canning jar. The canning jar has a seal that keeps it pretty air-tight. I wondered if this may have been a bad idea. I wanted to use glass and this was the only one I had large enough to put a whole eggplant into. The jars that I had put the first mixture into, the applesauce-like mixture, were not air-tight.
Could that have been the difference? Could the mixture have fermented too much in an anaerobic environment? I am a little concerned about what to use now. I don't think I will using a canning jar again. I plan to go back to my first method.
Fortunately, the outcome was good, but I really do not want to burn again. Maybe I have found a new way to do derm-abrasion, though ;).
I have only used eggplant/vinegar and vasoline with a bandaid when out and bedtime so far, and I am very impressed with what looks like a complete healing. I am not very experienced, having only one BCC in the past; 15 years ago. I will reserve my final declaration of a complete healing for now, even though it looks that way to me. I have a post-biopsy, pre-surgery appointment next week. I will see what the dermatologist thinks.
Gayle
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anivoc
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Posted - 09/29/2007 : 22:56:07
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Gayle,
I kind of doubt there is any difference in the 2 mixes. I think ( and this is just my thoughts) that vinegar is an acid just like the chemicals they use to do a dermabraision so yes the more you do it and the longer it is exposed the more apt to burn the skin. The first few days you were wearing it down and when you used the new batch it was just to a point that it blistered. That's my thinking on it. I'm not a chemist but it just doesn't make sense that the better seal would make a difference.
It is interesting about the gauze and the long time soaking of the lesion. Maybe that is where I'm going wrong. The problem is that my BCC is on the top of my head so I will need to shave that area to cover it and tape it. I'm not too keen on that. Reality is if I have to go to the Doc for this that's what he's going to do anyway. I'm in sales and a bit self conscience about doing that but it may be time to bite the bullet and just do it.
Thanks for sharing your experience and I hope the results with the derm come out well.. Do let us know.
Thanks,
Tom
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Mandi
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 00:55:21
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Forgive me, I'm new to the forum. I posted another thread asking for suggestions for treating actinic cheilitis. My lips are peeling constantly, often raw once scabs/skin comes off and very painful. It really sounds like the vinegar is going to BURN badly. Am I right??
Also - where do I get Orange Oil??? |
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Martha1
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 07:55:30
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| Mandi, I used NOW Foods organic orange oil. It is probably available in health food stores, but I bought mine on-line from iHerb at http://www.iherb.com/ Just search on orange oil. I got the 4-ounce size for $4.69 plus shipping. NOTE: Orange oil burns too, especially on the face. |
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rocco
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 10:48:53
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Originally posted by fforest
If any one knows of a 100% pure source for D-limonene please post..The citri-solv was the purest orange oil I could find at a store near me...
Butylated Hydroxyanisole cant be all bad if they put it in food..It sound like reading this that it has good things and bad things about it...
http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa082101a.htm
fforest or anyone else,
The bottle of CirtiSolv that I have lists only D-limonene and "biodegradable cleaning agents (derived from coconut)" as ingredients. Would the biodegradable cleaning agents be the BHA?
Also, the bottle that I have is different than the one that you posted the picture of. I bought it at Whole Foods as well. It may be just a different label, or maybe it is different altogether? |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 11:00:20
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Originally posted by Martha1
Mandi, I used NOW Foods organic orange oil. It is probably available in health food stores, but I bought mine on-line from iHerb at http://www.iherb.com/ Just search on orange oil. I got the 4-ounce size for $4.69 plus shipping. NOTE: Orange oil burns too, especially on the face.
I went to the local health food store in my towm and I am pretty sure this is what they had. When I read the ingredients ( very fine print ) it said it was orange oil mixed with other natural oils. I'm looking for 100% d-limonene (Orange oil extract)
Mandi can you take a look at what your label says and report back?
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maugen
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 13:28:48
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Forgive me, I'm new to the forum. I posted another thread asking for suggestions for treating actinic cheilitis. My lips are peeling constantly, often raw once scabs/skin comes off and very painful. It really sounds like the vinegar is going to BURN badly. Am I right??
Also - where do I get Orange Oil???
Mandi,
I am not sure about actinic cheilitis. The eggplant and vinegar mixture did not burn and was very soothing for the first 4 days that I used it for my basal cell cancer spot on my nose. I had an open wound there also from where the dermatologist had done a biopsy. I was only leaving the mixture on for about an hour at a time and it appeared to be healing my spot completely. I had burning only after I made the mixture a different way and left it on most of the day for two days. Even with that, everything healed in three days and looks wonderful. I am not recommending that, though.
I know you can buy pure orange oil at most of my healthfood stores. It is with all of the other essential oils. I am not sure that is what is being recommended and I have not tried it. I understand what has been used does burn.
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maugen
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 13:37:56
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[quote]Originally posted by anivoc
Gayle,
I kind of doubt there is any difference in the 2 mixes. I think ( and this is just my thoughts) that vinegar is an acid just like the chemicals they use to do a dermabraision so yes the more you do it and the longer it is exposed the more apt to burn the skin. The first few days you were wearing it down and when you used the new batch it was just to a point that it blistered. That's my thinking on it. I'm not a chemist but it just doesn't make sense that the better seal would make a difference.
It is interesting about the gauze and the long time soaking of the lesion. Maybe that is where I'm going wrong. The problem is that my BCC is on the top of my head so I will need to shave that area to cover it and tape it.
Tom,
One thing that makes me think it was different was that it had a sort of "sudsy" consistancy and the first one didn't. Maybe I had just left it on too long?
Could you part your hair at the spot and put a soaked cottonball or gauze there and not shave the hair? Keep it on when you are home for however long you determine? You could tape the gauze/cottonball down. Of course, it would be taped to hair and you may have to hold pretty still. You could do it longer on the weekends or more times on the weekends?
Gayle
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 13:39:53
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Originally posted by Mandi
Forgive me, I'm new to the forum. I posted another thread asking for suggestions for treating actinic cheilitis. My lips are peeling constantly, often raw once scabs/skin comes off and very painful. It really sounds like the vinegar is going to BURN badly. Am I right??
Also - where do I get Orange Oil???
Hi Mandi. I have a similar thing on my lower lip. About 10 years ago I also had an scc in situ removed surgically from that area.
I have been using the eggplant/vinegar mixture on my lower lip and it doesn't burn. It actually feels soothing. I don't get scabs though...my situation isn't that bad.
Once the mixture sits for a few days, the vinegar seems to get less acidic. It actually gets a little sticky/sugary and I think that has something to do with the plant sugars in the eggplant that have the active ingredient in it.
If you do get scabs, you might want to have it checked out by a dermatologist (biopsy) because ak can morph into scc and on the lip that can be serious. That's what happened to me. It has a greater rate of metastasis on the lip. That's what I was told by the derms anyway.
The standard treatment for it is efudex which burns like a mother on your lip and after a few weeks your lip looks like it had battery acid poured on it. You have to repeat the treatment every few years. I've done it 4 times now. I'm looking for something better.
I bought some stuff at whole foods in the womens aromatherapy section by the vitamins called Aura Cacia Organics Sweet Orange Certified Organic essential oil. I believe it is pure orange oil. It definitely smells and feels like pure orange oil. It is an extremely lightweight volatile oil. The bottle is small. .33 fl oz.
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 13:43:24
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Originally posted by maugen
[quote]Originally posted by anivoc
Gayle,
I kind of doubt there is any difference in the 2 mixes. I think ( and this is just my thoughts) that vinegar is an acid just like the chemicals they use to do a dermabraision so yes the more you do it and the longer it is exposed the more apt to burn the skin. The first few days you were wearing it down and when you used the new batch it was just to a point that it blistered. That's my thinking on it. I'm not a chemist but it just doesn't make sense that the better seal would make a difference.
It is interesting about the gauze and the long time soaking of the lesion. Maybe that is where I'm going wrong. The problem is that my BCC is on the top of my head so I will need to shave that area to cover it and tape it.
Tom,
One thing that makes me think it was different was that it had a sort of "sudsy" consistancy and the first one didn't. Maybe I had just left it on too long?
Could you part your hair at the spot and put a soaked cottonball or gauze there and not shave the hair? Keep it on when you are home for however long you determine? You could tape the gauze/cottonball down. Of course, it would be taped to hair and you may have to hold pretty still. You could do it longer on the weekends or more times on the weekends?
Gayle
based on my experience so far with the EP mixture, I agree that the longer you use it, the more likely it is to burn for the reason you state...the acetic acid in the mix sort of works like a slow chemical skin peel.
I also believe however that the mix is more prone to stinging after it has been mixed up and left out at room temperature for a few days. I don't have any theory as to why that is. |
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Mandi
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 14:33:25
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Originally posted by SoFl
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Originally posted by Mandi
Forgive me, I'm new to the forum. I posted another thread asking for suggestions for treating actinic cheilitis. My lips are peeling constantly, often raw once scabs/skin comes off and very painful. It really sounds like the vinegar is going to BURN badly. Am I right??
Also - where do I get Orange Oil???
Hi Mandi. I have a similar thing on my lower lip. About 10 years ago I also had an scc in situ removed surgically from that area.
I have been using the eggplant/vinegar mixture on my lower lip and it doesn't burn. It actually feels soothing. I don't get scabs though...my situation isn't that bad.
Once the mixture sits for a few days, the vinegar seems to get less acidic. It actually gets a little sticky/sugary and I think that has something to do with the plant sugars in the eggplant that have the active ingredient in it.
If you do get scabs, you might want to have it checked out by a dermatologist (biopsy) because ak can morph into scc and on the lip that can be serious. That's what happened to me. It has a greater rate of metastasis on the lip. That's what I was told by the derms anyway.
The standard treatment for it is efudex which burns like a mother on your lip and after a few weeks your lip looks like it had battery acid poured on it. You have to repeat the treatment every few years. I've done it 4 times now. I'm looking for something better.
I bought some stuff at whole foods in the womens aromatherapy section by the vitamins called Aura Cacia Organics Sweet Orange Certified Organic essential oil. I believe it is pure orange oil. It definitely smells and feels like pure orange oil. It is an extremely lightweight volatile oil. The bottle is small. .33 fl oz.
Thanks for the info. I bought some eggplant today and I am going to start ASAP. I REALLY hope it works as I am a nurse and I was REALLY dreading the efudex treatment (can't take off work during treatment time and I don't want to look awful at work during that period). I'm at my wits end. My lip is constantly swollen, peeling or raw and very painful. I think I should get a biopsy, but I will do that if this doesn't work. Please keep your fingers crossed for me. |
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Mandi
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 14:46:16
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| I also either over looked it or it wasn't mentioned...since I cannot bandage my entire lip, how long should I leave the mixture on and how often should I treat it? |
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Martha1
50 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2007 : 16:43:02
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Originally posted by anivoc
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Originally posted by Martha1
Mandi, I used NOW Foods organic orange oil. It is probably available in health food stores, but I bought mine on-line from iHerb at http://www.iherb.com/ Just search on orange oil. I got the 4-ounce size for $4.69 plus shipping. NOTE: Orange oil burns too, especially on the face.
I went to the local health food store in my towm and I am pretty sure this is what they had. When I read the ingredients ( very fine print ) it said it was orange oil mixed with other natural oils. I'm looking for 100% d-limonene (Orange oil extract)
Mandi can you take a look at what your label says and report back?
Thanks,
Tom
Tom, it was I who wrote about using NOW orange oil. I'm looking at the bottle now, and it says "100% Pure & Natural Orange Oil." I don't see any other mention of ingredients. In the directions, it says it is for use in aromatherapy only, and if used for other purposes, it should be diluted with a carrier oil. |
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Mandi
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 10:18:47
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| I did three seperate treatments yesterday for about 20 min each time (bandaging lips is complicated and somewhat messy). The definitely changed colors, especially where the worse areas are. There was some burning during and after treatment. I will get some aloe. They looked worse than normal this morning. I don't know if that is to be expected. |
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 11:07:08
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Originally posted by Mandi
I did three seperate treatments yesterday for about 20 min each time (bandaging lips is complicated and somewhat messy). The definitely changed colors, especially where the worse areas are. There was some burning during and after treatment. I will get some aloe. They looked worse than normal this morning. I don't know if that is to be expected.
I used the mix several times a day for a week on my lower lip. It felt better but it did seem to be eating on the ak areas over time...so I'm taking a few days off before I go back on. The key for me is that I'm looking for a treatment that will make it better without getting worse first. So I'm going to try a longer term less frequent use approach with the EP mix on the lip. The lip is more sensitive than other areas. I've been using it daily on my hand which has some suspicious spots and it's just about completely cleaned up without "looking worse" or feeling worse first. I believe there is something to this treatment but I think there are a lot of unknowns in terms of what's the best way to treat....how to make the mix best..etc.
I'm also going to talk to my derm about a new product called solaraze
(Diclofenac Sodium 3%) made by a company in Canada this week. It's supposed to work by being an anti inflammatory agent and is approved for use on AK. It says it's "well tolerated" whatever that really means. |
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Mandi
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 14:28:34
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| I guess I need to take some pictures so you guys can see what I am dealing with. Besides, hopefully, I can use them later to show SUCCESS with the treatment. |
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dan
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 21:52:33
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There have been concerns in this thread regarding orange oil products. I have used three orange oil products: Ecover (now discontinued), Orange TKO, and NOW essential orange oil. The Ecover and Orange TKO products were definitely more concentrated than the NOW product. I have not used Citrisolve because I was also worried about the ingredient list.
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I think the Orange TKO product is a good choice. Shown is a small spray bottle that can be handy for areas other than the face.
This is part of the FAQ section at http://www.tkoorange.com/html/faq_s.html
"Q: Is TKO safe to use around food?
A: Yes. Orange TKO is non-toxic. In fact, you will find our Agriculture Number on the label, which means that TKO is approved by Agriculture Canada for use in registered food establishments.
Q: What exactly is Orange TKO? Tell me how it is made.
A: Orange TKO is an emulsifier made from the peel of the orange. D'limonene is the active ingredient that gives citrus cleaners the punch. Through a double distillation process, d'limonene is separated from the orange oil, removing the acidity, leaving Orange TKO with a neutral pH. This double distillation process preserves the organic integrity of Orange TKO. Orange TKO is not corrosive, and leaves no residue. Two environmentally friendly (EPA approved) surfactants are added to allow d'limonene to blend with water. Surfactants are also wetting agents, which gives TKO more cleaning strength.
Q: If there are no synthetic chemicals in TKO, what IS in it?
A: Orange TKO contains d'limonene, surfactants, and oxygen has been added. There are no petroleum distillates or other synthetic chemicals. It is 100% natural."
The same company also has a MSDS (material safety data sheet) at http://www.tkoorange.com/html/msds.html
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 22:19:12
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| Well I went to the spice section of the local grocery store. Schilling makes an orange oil extract. Obviously it is for human consumption so I would hope it is safe. It does have alcohol and water in it. It was $5 and I have tried it today. Smells good, stung a bit (Alcohol?).. we'll see. |
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anivoc
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 22:27:04
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Orange Oil Overdose!
Wow! I wouldn't have thought it could happen.
I got my Schilling Orange oil extract and with a q-tip spread it all over my face where I have AKs and BCC's. It burned a bit and all the effected areas lit up red. Didn't think much about it, it usually takes an hour or so for things to subside...uh uh
It got worse and my whole face swelled up.. not Quasimodo style but definitely noticeable.
It took about 4 days for the swelling and redness to go down. Much of my cheek skin looked similar to an orange peel in texture.
Powerful stuff.. Now I am using the orange oil specifically on real problem spots and letting it sink in for a few minutes before I put on skin cream..
Still working on the nasty on top of my head ..maybe making progress but if I am it is Sloooooow.
I clean it each morning and apply a E/V sauce mixed with orange oil dmso and vitamin e cream. Then cover it up with my hair. In the evening I soak it with eggplant vinegar and then smear a dollop of e/v sauce on it for the night. It dries up overnight and keeps the ulcers from bleeding on my pillow case..( I know gross )
It might just be a sad case of high hopes but I think it is getting smaller, albeit sloooooowly. I'll keep posting till I either win or give up on this method. |
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Martha1
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Posted - 10/09/2007 : 22:59:10
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| Anivoc, I also found that orange oil stings when applied to the face. Once I applied the NOW organic orange oil with a Q-tip all over my nose and surrounding area - cheeks, forehead, and upper lip - and it stung all over, even on skin that looked completely healthy. I assume that means the skin of the face is especially sensitive and vulnerable. Maybe that's why so many of us have gotten skin cancer or pre-cancer on the face. I don't usually bother with sun block, but I am wondering if it makes sense to use it on the face, even if one doesn't use it on the rest of the body. |
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mgnatural
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Posted - 10/15/2007 : 21:50:31
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First I want to say Hi! I am new here but not new to what you are all doing. I actually came here while doing research for my natural cures book -- and I want to thank you all for sharing your experiences.
I had a couple of comments after reading your posts that I wanted to share. Actually this will sounds somewhat contradictory but I think you will get it. First if you want to put the mixture of EV on your face without it getting in your eyes -- use vaseline around your eye area to create a barrier - the mixture will not pass through the vaseling but will ride around it.
Second don't use vaseline - not on skin you want to heal -- after a burning or stinging sensation. Vaseline is a petrochemical -- use ALOE it is natural and will heal while it soothes your skin.
I am anxiously awaiting further comments from all of you on your successes with your own natural cures! |
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rustydownunder28
Australia
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Posted - 10/16/2007 : 06:49:56
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| Regarding the glycoalkaloid in eggplant and others; ie devil apple here in australia. The active compounds are solosanine and solamargine and SOLBEC Pharmaceuticals call this compound coramsine and it is active against most types of agressive cancers. However, be careful when mixing eggplant extract with oils as if a reaction takes place it binds irreversible the active compounds and neutralises their effect and you cannot even separate them in a HPLC. These active ingredients work best in a water based compounds. From memory there is a method of extracting these active compounds with a vinegar process, which I saw on a science paper when perusing medline etc, or conversely alcohol or methanol. I work as a scientist and have followed the development of these drugs for many years. They hold great promise. Farmers here have used the devil apple extract for generations to get rid of suncancers etc. |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 11:45:37
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Welcome Rusty,
Thanks for the info! Probably one of the biggest problems with what we are doing here is the stab in the dark, no standards experimenting we are doing. Your input, thoughts and suggestions are encouraged and could help a lot of people so please feel free to jump in and share.
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jan
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 15:19:28
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I've been reading all the postings with much interest. I haven't seen anybody checking in for about a month now, and I'm wondering how the eggplant treatment has worked for all of you.
I have a question: would freezing the eggplant mixture be detrimental to its potency? I made up a batch (blended) and there's so much of it I wonder if it will go bad in the refrigerator before I use it up. My BCC is only the size of a pea. This site has been VERY HELPFUL. Thank you so much for all your inputs. |
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Bawarchi
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 04:41:40
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I just found this forum tonight after getting the biopsy results a week ago for the little dark spot just above my lip: BCC. I guess I'll postpone the excision appointment for now and start my eggplant treatment tomorrow.
Could someone tell me what the potential cons of excision are for removing a small BCC? It's the only option my GP gave me.
Also, does anyone know if it matters whether I keep shaving or not? The BCC is in the mustache zone.
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 20:15:57
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Originally posted by jan
I've been reading all the postings with much interest. I haven't seen anybody checking in for about a month now, and I'm wondering how the eggplant treatment has worked for all of you.
I have a question: would freezing the eggplant mixture be detrimental to its potency? I made up a batch (blended) and there's so much of it I wonder if it will go bad in the refrigerator before I use it up. My BCC is only the size of a pea. This site has been VERY HELPFUL. Thank you so much for all your inputs.
Hey Jan
Rocco, Dan and FForest have all had complete eradications of their skin cancer problems as I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong guys)
For me the jury is still out. There is no doubt the eggplant is helping at least subside the growths. I am beginning to believe that the combo approach may be needed.
Keep in mind that none of these treatments are as painful or dramatic as bloodroot paste. You put bloodroot paste on and you are going to get an immediate and dramatic reaction. Used properly it will do a very good job, definitely better than a blind excision ( trying to remove a growth with out the Mohs procedure ) Nearly as good as a Mohs procedure with much less skin loss. Very painful, swelling and at least a month of bandages.
That said I have done the Bloodroot several times now. Though I have had success, over a period of years they come back. Not exactly where the original was but in the region. I would assume it is going to be the same with Mohs because most of us with AK &BCC issues have damage all over our face, head, neck, shoulders and arms..and sometimes lower trunk.
I am seeking a softer gentler way to achieve better results and think we are on the road to success here.
Here's the things that I feel have done some good.
(Do it your self stuff)
Eggplant w/vinegar sauce
Broccoli Flowerette sauce
vinegar juice left over from pickling the eggplant
Orange Oil
Baking Soda
Vinegar
Turpentine and or pine tar pitch
Caffeine
liquid tylenol
(Over the counter creams)
Cymilium ( who knows what the magic bullet is?)
Sunspot ES (active ingredient BEC5 from Eggplant)
Curaderm (active ingredient BEC5 from Eggplant)
On the pharma side.
Aladara
Effudex 5% flourocil
DMSO as carrier with most any of the above.
In regards to your eggplant sauce. I have kept about 3 cups of the sauce in a tupperware container for over a month kept unrefrigerated. No problem. The vinegar pickles the eggplant.
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wanthealth
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Posted - 10/27/2007 : 13:19:23
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| I am so glad to have found this forum. I'm always looking for natural or home remedies as alternatives to today's flood of drugs on the market. At the same time, I'm not entirely against the newly discovered effective treatments, and have just two more days left on an Efudex treatment (actually just the generic flourouricil). It has been quite an experience! Very much redness, various discomfort and itching, and now just starting some rawness with oozing. Yuk. Hope lots of AK and BCC are killed off by this cream! This site and especially all of the info about eggplant & vinegar has given me some encouragement in my intent to fight against my skin cancer in an ongoing way - naturally. Thank you all for posting! This also fuels my desire for a formal education in the health field - at this point a dream still, but maybe someday a reality. It's never too late - right?! |
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delhiski
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 22:48:38
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I completed my treatment of actinic cheilitis late July using Aldara cream, 3 times per week for 8 weeks. Very difficult treatment. Eats your lips off. My lips bled, large areas of skin came off and eating anything became a chore as you could not bite anything. Wow, you sure get a rude awakening on how important your lips are. Well that brings me to now.....My AC is back, I just went to my Derm Monday with a noticeable spot on now my upper lip and he confirmed it to be AC returning and is concerned on why it is back with the dramatic treatment of the Aldara cream??? There is other wide spread of AC on other parts of my lips and dryness, tightness on both upper and lower lip.
Next move is seeing a specialist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester. I have read all of your folks postings and have found them to be very informative and interesting. I will admit I am concerned at what the next potential steps may be for me? Any of you think the Vinger / eggplant treatment can work on the lips? Is teh orange oil to harsh for the lips? Sounds like it but wanted to get the groups consensus!!
Any thoughts on what the specialist may do to rid me of the AC? What should I guard for against for Treatment?
Any help or thoughts from you all on the AC would be greatly appreciated.
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SoFl
USA
79 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2007 : 09:37:11
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Originally posted by delhiski
I completed my treatment of actinic cheilitis late July using Aldara cream, 3 times per week for 8 weeks. Very difficult treatment. Eats your lips off. My lips bled, large areas of skin came off and eating anything became a chore as you could not bite anything. Wow, you sure get a rude awakening on how important your lips are. Well that brings me to now.....My AC is back, I just went to my Derm Monday with a noticeable spot on now my upper lip and he confirmed it to be AC returning and is concerned on why it is back with the dramatic treatment of the Aldara cream??? There is other wide spread of AC on other parts of my lips and dryness, tightness on both upper and lower lip.
Next move is seeing a specialist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester. I have read all of your folks postings and have found them to be very informative and interesting. I will admit I am concerned at what the next potential steps may be for me? Any of you think the Vinger / eggplant treatment can work on the lips? Is teh orange oil to harsh for the lips? Sounds like it but wanted to get the groups consensus!!
Any thoughts on what the specialist may do to rid me of the AC? What should I guard for against for Treatment?
Any help or thoughts from you all on the AC would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan with Bum Lips!!
I have been having lip issues for years now. I had a scc in situ removed surgically about 15 years ago and have had to use efudex repeatedly for ak along the lower border of my lower lip. The efudex treatment on the lip is terrible and doesn't seem to be all that effective because the problem returns in about a year or even less.
I am now using something new called solaraze. It doesn't eat your lip up like the efudex or aldera. I'm supposed to use it for 90 days. I've been using it for about 30 days now and my lower lip feels better than its felt in years. There have been many days where it feels 100% normal and that is a first in many years.I still have two months of treatment to go but I am very encouraged because this doesn't eat up your lip to do it's work. It's a NSAID anti inflammatory drug. They don't seem to know exactly why or how it works on skin cancer but it is approved for that use.
I also tried the eggplant mix on my lip and I like the solaraze much better. I put it on with a small paint brush last thing before I go to bed at night. Ask your doc about it....mine had never used it on a lip before but I'm sure he's going to start when he sees how well mine is doing.
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drbeckl2
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Posted - 12/02/2007 : 23:41:31
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Hi; -
For people with skin cancers, that are worried, and frantic, that they mite not find a cure for their skin cancers:
Do not fret; The cure for skin cancer already exists. It does not have to be invented. It is here now. It has a clinically proven cure rate of 98% on external cancers. It is also used by some on internal cancers. It has existed for 200 to 300 years. It is called the hoxsey salve, black salve, cansema, compound X , etc. It contains zinc chloride + bloodroot + other herbs. It will hunt down and destroy any cancer it comes in contact with.
It causes some burning senstation while it is on your skin, but it is only on your skin for 8 to 24 hours. Most skin lesions need only one application. Sometimes, there is a need for a 2nd application at the site if it looks suspicious after it heals, in about 2 months. It does not harm healthy skin. You do not have to fear that it will damage your good tissues. [But sometimes the cancer is much larger than what appears on the surface of the skin, and the wound left after the salve is used is also much larger than is expected. ]
It is superior to medical surgery, and mohs surgery. [ mohs took the hoxsey salve and created a convoluted protocol out of it, and made something simple into a complicated procedure ] It takes no healthy tissue. But The surgeon will take extra tissue beyond the cancer to make sure he gets it all.
From what I am reading in this forum, the "kinder and gentler" cancer salves are not less painfull than the Hoxsey salve. They are instead more painfull, more time consuming, and not dependable. And the cancers come back in quite a few people using them. From what I am casually reading, they do not work reliably.
There are now several websites that show how to use the hoxsey salves, complete with step by step directions, and plenty of photos. Do a google search on "cancer salve" , "black salve", cansema, to find those wibsites.
Before you use the salve, or buy it, go to CancerSalves.Com , and buy the book by Ingrid Naiman, for $28.00 or so. It will explain everything., especially how to do the bandaging. It is well worth the money .
The various salve formulas will cost you about $50, will do about 20 small cancers. The black salve kills the skin cancer down to its roots, and the cancers do not come back later.
If you are a person with a hundred small skin cancers on you, then don't treat but one cancer at a time., If you have a lot of cancers, then you need to realize that the problem is internal, then you need to take a internal blood cleanser, and clean your internal systems out, and try to rid yourself of the poisons that are causing the skin cancers to manifest on the surface of your skin. CureZone.Com has many forums dedicated to cleaning out your system, Kidneys, colon, liver, blood, parasites, etc etc. That would be a good website to start on.
If you have skin cancer, and are not too scared and frightened of not finding a cure, .... then you can relax and experiment with the natural substances and compounds that other skin cancer owners are experimenting with. But if they fail you, then you know you can revert to the proven hoxsey salves, before things get too far out of hand.
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disclosure: I do not sell hoxsey salves, I do not own a interest in any firm that sells hoxsey salves. I am not a doctor. I have used the salve in the past.
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walter25
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 23:49:11
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| I have removed a lesion with a product called Perrin's Blend that has just come out on the market. They have a website www.perrinskinblends.com. apparently it has worked on bbc, squamous cell carcinoma, and melanoma. |
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walter25
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 23:51:24
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| Perrin's Blend was only about $35 for 1 ounce. it seems to last a long time |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 11:48:17
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I could not get in without a password. I think the site is down right now..maybe?
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Originally posted by walter25
I have removed a lesion with a product called Perrin's Blend that has just come out on the market. They have a website www.perrinskinblends.com. apparently it has worked on bbc, squamous cell carcinoma, and melanoma.
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anivoc
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Posted - 12/13/2007 : 12:02:16
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Originally posted by drbeckl2
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disclosure: I do not sell hoxsey salves, I do not own a interest in any firm that sells hoxsey salves. I am not a doctor. I have used the salve in the past.
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Hi drbeck12,
If you go the pictures page you can see for yourself how bloodroot works.
I know VERY well first hand.. I am not a doctor either but I DO have skin cancers, HAVE used Bloodroot and definitely am trying to find a softer gentler way than Bloodroot paste..
Though the methods here still cause reactions and pain the intensity and reaction are not even close to as painful.
I admit I am less than happy about my success so far but I have made some progress using a variety of ideas posted here.
Though not perfect I have had some success with sunspot es. curaderm.
The eggplant vinegar though it does seem to do "something", I have had just as good results with just vinegar. I knocked out one AK for sure with just vinegar.. Can't say why it worked on one and not all the others.
Anyway you are right Blodroot is very effective..But it is also VERY painful and can leave serious scaring. Albeit so does surgery.
Lastly neither Surgery or Bloodroot is 100% guaranteed. Skin cancer can reoccur using either procedure. Generally if you have skin cancer you have a lot of damage in your exposed areas and your immune system is not strong enough to suppress the skin cancer meaning your going to continue to get them unless you can strengthen your immune system.
I need to rant more on this but need to get off to work..
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walter25
USA
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Posted - 12/17/2007 : 16:50:28
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Originally posted by fforest
Mexico that is a good idea to use organic eggplant...I went to Whole Foods and bought 3 different kinds of eggplants and mixed them together...
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walter25
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 16:58:50
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to the topic of Perrin's Blend. The website is www.perrinskinblends.com and also www.perrinsproducts.com
the previous address had a period at the end of com which did not allow you to go through.
to make a comment on the bloodroot and blacksalve which scar. Perrin's Blend does not seem to scar.
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perrinsblend
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Posted - 12/27/2007 : 22:17:38
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I help produce Perrin's Blend, which is an all natural balm that has removed various moles and lesions and undiagnosed skin cancers. I was doing a search to see how Perrin's Blend was showing up on the search engines and I saw that this site had a post about Perrin's Blend. I started to read about an eggplant treatment which seems ironic because someone called our office the other day who had used an eggplant treatment. They had used this eggplant treatment, paid over $100 for it, and it had not worked. They were somewhat annoyed. They had bought Perrin's Blend in a health food store in Paris Tennessee. They were calling to ask if it removed skin cancer. I said that there had been cases in which people had used it on lesions that a doctor has suspected as squamous cell carcinoma but was not biopsied. I said there were other cases when a person had a history of basal cell carcinoma and also others with melanoma and these people had lesions that they suspected were skin cancer and had tried Perrin's Blend and it had removed the lesions without scarring. I also said that Perrin's Blend does not work all of the time but we get very few returns and we get a lot of praise reports. Our website is www.perrinskinblends.com and www.perrinsproducts.com We have video Testimonials.
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 12/28/2007 : 10:05:37
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I watched the video testimonials and read the written ones. It definitely seems you have a product that at worst is a great healing salve for many things including moles, infections etc. At best it may be a topical solution for knocking out skin cancer lesions
The 2 active ingredients seems to be Honey which is known for it's antibacterial properties and grapeseed extract which is a super antioxidant and contains OPC's Oglagameric proantho cyanidins (Say that three times fast  )not sure on the spelling there. I came across and studied the properties of OPC's @ 10 years ago when looking into Pycnogenol (Maritime Pine bark Extract) I did try grapeseed oil on my skin cancers to no avail. Maybe the healing properties and constant application ( covering and keeping in place) allows the magic to work.
I guess with the shipping included, $35 ( that's with the 20% discount you offer) for a jar of Honey with grapeseed extract is not ridiculously expensive. I don't know how much extract you are putting in this so maybe it's a fair deal.
This forum and website is made possible by Dan at no cost to anyone but his self. Dan gives shout outs and credit to Christ as our savior and source of inspiration to heal ourselves.
The forum is about helping each other with no intention to make money. That said there are several products being discussed on this forum as possible solutions that all cost money to buy. Some substantially more expensive than others.
Are you willing to share the recipe for those that would like to make this on their own?
Most of us here have diagnosed skin cancers and we are all doing our best to avoid the knife...which today is the Gold standard of skin cancer removal.
It would truly be a God send to have an inexpensive DIY recipe that worked at knocking out skin cancers.
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perrinsblend
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 16:39:47
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| When we first developed the formula a few years ago we did just tell people how to mix it. When we decided to start selling it on the web and drive around everywhere to work on getting it in stores we had to set the price at around $35 to cover expenses. If we can ever start mass producing it we may be able to lower the price because of volume. But up to this point we have been basically working for free, while building up debt. We are currently working with a cancer research scientist who researches the affect of antioxidants on cancer cells among other things. Because of this current affiliation we cannot at this point freely give out the formula. |
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 20:24:32
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I have just finished creating a new thread under the "Skin disorders, treatments, and surgery topic." titled 'BCC “Case History, 2007”.' I copy out a section here pertaining to the EGGPLANT-VINEGAR mixture:
Observing the Eggplant-Vinegar Mixture:
I made the eggplant-vinegar mixture pretty much as indicated on the website. I did use apple cider vinegar but I did not use organic eggplant. I puréed it the best that I could, although the seeds remained. Later on I strained the purée, which is quite timestaking with the raw eggplant, but gives a much more manageable mixture. I kept the mixture in the refrigerator most of the time, but not always. Neither leaving it out for a few days nor letting it get fairly old seem to hurt it.
I started by applying the eggplant with a bandage over the spot, ordinary easy-pull-off bandages (not the stick-tight variety), or the micropore tape, sometimes even masking tape. This worked fine on my wrist, but I found that when the bandage held the mixture near my eye either the fumes or the liquid spreading on my skin or my eyelashes spreading it caused irritation inside my eye. This was tolerable but did not seem to be a good idea.
Next I tried “swiping” the mixture over the main spot as often during the day as I could remember to do it. I think this is when I made the least progress, probably because the quantity was just too thin. Later I went back to applying a good-size “gob” of the stuff over the spot and letting it just dry in place and stay there without a bandage. As one poster to the website mentioned, it seemed that each time the dried-up remainder of the gob was removed some skin peeled off and there were signs of improvement.
Regarding the changes in the spot, as one poster said (FForest, I think), almost as soon as I started with the mixture there was increased definition in the area. My BCC (size of a dime) had at that time left the “crater” stage and gone to a “pearls” stage. After applying the eggplant mixture, these pearls became more visible and seemed to separate from the spot. Over the weeks that I continued, I would say that the “pearls” slowly shriveled, disintegrated, and peeled off, although not completely.
In the middle of the treatment I had to return to the cosmetic surgeon for some questions about the biopsy. I quit using the mixture a couple of days before so that my face would look a bit more normal. And I think it was when I resumed that I started the “gob” application. It seemed that the quantity of mixture now at times was almost too irritating. The entire area of the actual spot and perhaps some places nearby were getting quite sore and red. This is probably desirable, but it leads me to suggest what I next tried with the break for the doctor visit, namely, “taking a vacation” once in a while and letting the surrounding skin kind of catch up and be more generally healthy.
My experience overall favors the “long and slow” approach, if and when I ever have another spot like this to deal with. I understand the concern about penetrating the depth of the spot, which is not named “basal” for nothing – it comes from the base of the skin. But a gradual exfoliation, worked on constantly, with “vacations,” seems constructive to me. Someone might reply that the reason I ultimately required the operation at the end of two months is that I had not reached the depth of the cancer. And I would say yes, that is why more time would be needed, but to have gone “faster” and more destructively did not seem to be a good idea. I think that I got better progress the other way.
For several days before the scheduled day of the Mohs surgery I once again “took a vacation,” to reduce surrounding inflammation and present a good appearance. I hoped to win the doctor over to let me continue as I had with the natural treatments. My personal observation was that the “pearls” had been reduced to very small pinpoint scabs, truly smaller than before, and almost peeled off entirely. Behind the “pearls” there still seemed to be a darkly red color to the original spot which looked different from normal, even reddened, skin.
Requiring surgery, after all:
I kept to the original schedule, but I did at least ask the Mohs surgeon whether she really needed to do the operation, and whether it might be so slight that she herself could stitch it instead of my needing the cosmetic operation the next day. She kindly replied that she did indeed see improvement in the spot, but that she still felt it needed the operation. I trusted her enough to believe her, and put my incomplete success down to lack of time.
During the operation she did a “first pass” and found “firm perimeters,” which was encouraging. She told me that she needed to take a “second pass” for depth (meaning mere fractions of an inch). She also said that the area worked on required that I have the repair done by the cosmetic surgeon the next day. So I complied with both scheduled operations. I feel the surgeons did their respective jobs very well. Since I am still healing, the final result is not clear, but the cosmetic surgeon worked very delicately. All people involved were very kind and skilled and I do trust them. I am sure that these well-trained scientists are needed in some cases, especially where the cancer has been allowed to make too much progress.
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luckylouie
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 23:13:46
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I read the earthcure post regarding eggplant vinegar and here is my experience using it. Firstly let me say, I do not have skin cancer. I had a small sunspot on my right forearm, which had been there for over 10 years, along with an age spot on my left cheek, also around 10 years old, which had a flat, slightly scaly feel which was not obvious unless you felt it or caught it in just the right light. So my experience may not be particularly relevant to many people on the forum. I also had a couple of other age spots on my face and my main reason for using the eggplant vinegar was to get rid of these.
I had also read that onion juice would get rid of age spots. I blended some eggplant and onion with apple cider vinegar, popped it in a glass jar and left it for a week or so. I then strained off the vinegar, diluted some of it with rosewater (about 20% vinegar and 85% roseswater) and left some of it at full strength. I used the diluted mix every evening over my whole face, neck, hands and forearms as a toner, followed by a spot treatment on the actual age spots with the undiluted mixture.
After a week I noticed the age spots on my face had gotten darker and a couple of others had appeared. After two weeks I found that they were getting slightly rough and scaly in texture. Once again this would only be noticable by touch, none of this is very major. I had very minor peeling and the older age spot began to flake small thick scaly skin. After three weeks the other age spots began to react the same way. The rest of my skin remained healthy and did not appear to be adversely affected by the mix. However remember I was applying only a very diluted mixture to the whole face/neck etc. The acid did work as a very mild chemical peel and the skin wherever I used it became smoother and fairer in colour.
I continued this for three months and most of my age spots disappeared completely. The same treatment did not work for the sunspot on my arm. The top layer of skin became thicker and white in colour, while underneath became slightly red and irritated looking. After three weeks I changed tactics. I used a pumice stone to gently remove some of the top layer of thickened skin every couple of days, and used the undiluted mixture twice a day. At the end of three months the sunspot has decreased in size by 80% and there is no more thickening of the skin, just a faint red spot. I will continue applying the undiluted mixture twice a day and see what happens.
The only other change I made to my beauty routine was to use Olay Age Defying revealing day cream, once a day, under my sunblock. This contains 2% salicylic acid, and I was using it in order to get rid of some blackheads that were being caused by the thickness of my zinc oxide sunblock. The exfoliating action would, I suppose, have increased the exfoliating action of the vinegar mix.
For the record I am 44 with combination skin, but a tendency towards broken thread veins. This did not make them worse, and before using the mix on my face I did a test spot on my chest every day for a week to make sure it would not. |
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David
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2008 : 08:58:41
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| I am new to this so forgive ignorance please. 63 year old fair skinned red head. Lots of skin damage by sun. Got prescription for Flouraplex 1% from general practictioner with no specific directions for use. Have been appying to face and hands for 12 days. No real effect on hands as yet but many red spots on face. Two areas are know open. Do I continue appling and if so for how long. Or should I discontue use and see what happens? I was thinking of stopping and start using Neutrogenia nigght serum. |
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claire
3 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2008 : 21:33:37
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Hi,
Background Info: I've had AK on the backs of my hands for about 10 years and AC on my lower lip for about 7 years. I used to have the doctor freeze the more troublesome spots (raised, or never healing) on my hands, which worked for all except two such spots, but nothing was ever done on my lip as my doctor seemed not to notice the severe chapping (it would come and go) and I was unaware that it was linked in any way to whatever was happening to my hands. Given the length of time I've had these problems, and my age (69),I think they have not become as severe as they might have. This is probably because I've been on a very strict anti-cancer diet for the last five years and consume, among other things, about two quarts of vegetable juice every day. (I know the juicing removed the age spots on my hands.)
Right now, my hands aren't bad at all. There are some light reddish areas, but nothing raised or ulcerated or scaly. Some of that healing I attribute to the use of iodine (I read it was used by a doctor in Rome to cure skin cancer) and magnesium chloride. But I wasn't using those products on my lip as I worried about how much they burned. Then, recently, with a very bad cold, my lip got very bad -- with a rather deep fissure. That's what drove me to this site.
I'm very grateful to have learned about eggplant and vinegar. I found that, like others here, that the burning is minimal and the site looks better right away. I pureed a small eggplant, added about 1/4 C apple cider vinegar, and let it sit for a couple of days. Then I packed it on my lower lip by keeping my lips closed (pushing the stuff up against the upper lip)and covering the band of puree with some Glad Wrap (safest brand to use). I hold the Glad Wrap in place with a circle of stretch fabric that runs from the top of my head down over my ears and across my lower lip and chin. I keep it on for a couple of hours. It does of course make me look ridiculous, but that's fine for when I'm home.
When I'm going out, I just rub some of the liquid over my lips and add a bit of sticky honey (YS Organic, *unheated* which is highly anti-virus, anti-bacteria and anti-fungal) The honey may sting briefly but then is very soothing (especially if I have applied iodine, which I still do) and also moisturizes the lip and makes it easier to stretch (as in smiling :))
There seems to be some disagreement as to the source of AK and AC, but aside from too much sun (which I think must be linked to at least one other factor), I think in my own case there is a likely connection to staph. An overgrowth of staph caused the acne I had most of my life, the rosacea that developed later in life, and the bletharitis (sp?) that has infected my eyelids. (Though these three problems have become virtually non-existent now through diet and lifestyle.)
Well, I've written a small book, but I wanted to post to share what has helped me and to express my gratitude for the new ideas I found on this forum.
Claire
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2008 : 22:56:24
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| Claire, thanks for the post. It's great to hear about your treatments and that they are working. You list vegetable juice, iodine, eggplant & vinegar, and honey (leaving out Glad Wrap!) as being helpful. Good natural stuff, and you can't beat the price. You may also like coconut oil which has lauric acid, known for being anti-viral, antibacterial and anti-fungal. |
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claire
3 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2008 : 20:10:49
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Dan,
I forgot to mention c.o. which I've been using for years internally and externally. I actually order 5 gallon drums at a time. It mixes nicely with my honey/eggplant juice-lipstick. :) |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2008 : 12:41:08
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Hey Claire
Not sure if you are already aware of it but there is a special Honey from New Zealand / Australia that is supposed to have superior healing and antibacterial properties called Manuka Honey.. hard to find here in the states but it is around.. There are different levels of healing properties in various brands so you need to educate yourself on it before you buy. |
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claire
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Posted - 02/10/2008 : 12:15:20
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Anivoc,
I did actually try this honey about 3 or 4 years ago, but I had some problems digesting it. I might be okay with it now (my health being improved), but to get the "certified" version (not all the Manuka honeys are equally potent)means paying very big bucks for very little amount. As it is, the YS stuff is expensive for me. I buy it in cases since I use about 2-3 oz. a day.
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Allen
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2008 : 17:11:21
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Tried it for AK. Didn't do a thing.
Blended an eggplant in as little vinegar as needed to blend.
Used for over a month, twice daily (just left it on).
Again, no change.
Also have red areas, like a burn, (not sure what that is), didn't work on that either.
Wondering what would happen if I just used the peel (where the purple color is). May or may not. Also tried "sunspot." The thing that worked on some problems (not all) was carac (FU-5), and it is also easier to apply and less expensive (you get a large tube) if you have insurance. That (carac) did a heck of a job (not as in "heck of a job Brownie." but really, a good job) but it did not take care of some things.
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 08:07:57
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Hi All. Am new here. Thought I'd post my recent experiences with eggplant.
First, thanks so much for everyone's input and for this great forum. It's giving me a lot of hope for an alternative to surgery.
I was told last month that I have two skin cancers (not melanoma), that needed surgery and would leave bad scars. One lesion is on my nose, the other on my chest. In addition, my dermatologist said I had 2 other lesions that were "precancer wanting to be cancer", and I'd better get some health insurance.
I didn't like the idea of surgery, and I didn't know what else to do, so the next day I started a water fast to see if that might help.
About the 5th day of my fast, I found this forum. I looked at all the different suggestions, and I liked the eggplant method the best.
I decided to mix the eggplant with a few different things, being careful to leave out oils because of their possible binding effect as suggested by rustydownunder.
Though I haven't been mixing any oil with the eggplant, I've been applying tea tree oil between applications of the eggplant.
I don't blend the eggplant. I mash it instead in a suribachi. A suribachi is a Japanese mortar and pestle usually available at health food stores. I found that the advantages (for me) of mashing over blending are that mashing doesn't require adding any liquid (my skin is way too sensitive to vinegar), and I can prepare a very small amount of eggplant and make it fresh everyday.
I mash the long eggplants and use only the half attached to the stem end because it has less seeds. The other half is eaten.
To mash the eggplant, I cut it into small pieces, mash it till it's juicy instead of white, and then discard all the peel - keeping as much eggplant as possible. I then mash the eggplant up really well, and add the contents of 3 capsules of ground raspberry seed (for the ellagic acid), a dropper of oregano extract (not oregano oil), and a dropper of noni extract.
I cover my lesions with that mixture, then cover that with whatever bandage I can find that won't stick too hard to my skin.
I usually apply this mixture about 4 times a day, keeping it on for 2 - 4 hours each time. A couple of times during the day, I leave the mixture off, and I apply tea tree oil instead, leaving the bandages off.
I've found that the tea tree oil can become too inflamatory after a few days, so I've had to discontinue it a couple of times and apply aloe vera as an alternative. But I go back to the tea tree oil as soon as possible.
I've been doing this for the nose and chest lesion, plus the two areas that were considered "precancer wanting to be cancer", plus several suspected AKs and a couple of "age spots". It's been 5 weeks and here's what's happened:
The nose and chest lesions at first became very inflamed. The nose lesion soon appeared to cover a much larger area of my nose than originally seemed evident, with several channels spreading out from it. The main area was about 1/4" in diameter.
The chest lesion was already pretty large - about the size of a nickel. When it became inflamed, it seemed to grow to larger than a quarter.
By about the third day, both lesions started to blister. And by the fourth or fifth day, they had developed scabs. All the new little channels on my nose turned into a brown crust. At one point during this stage, the chest lesion seemed to take on the appearance of a flower, with petals about 3/4" long emmanating from the main lesion, and a little brown crust at the end of each petal. I enlarged the application of eggplant to cover the entire thing. Over a period of several days after that, the scabs and crust on my nose and chest started to peel, and a few days later, they were gone.
The scabs are gone now, but the areas are still pink. I'm still applying the eggplant, because even though the lesions seem vastly improved, they are not yet totally healed. Their progress was most dramatic during the first week or so. It's probably worth mentioning that I was still fasting during most of the first week of applications. That could have played an important healing role. I fasted for 9 days. Since then progress has been steady, but slow.
The pink area on the chest seems to be gradually shrinking, and healthy skin appears to be closing in on it. It now seems overall definitely smaller than a dime. It used to be extremely itchy if I touched it, or if my clothing touched it. The itchiness has almost completely disappeared.
The nose lesion has no scabbing or peeling, and the new channels have disappeared, but it still seems to have it's moods. Sometimes it seems more red, other times more faded. It's no longer sensitive to the touch like it was before the treatment. It seems to be slowly fading away, but not with the dramatic progress of the chest lesion.
Of the two lesions that were "precancer wanting to be cancer", the larger one has improved dramatically. It was about 1/2" in diameter, with a watery scab, and extremely itchy. Now the lesion is practically nonexistent, and it's becoming difficult to locate. If I rub the general area with water, I can see a faintly pink area. I'm still applying the eggplant.
The other "precancer wanting to be cancer" seemed to originate from an eyeglasses mark on one side of the bridge of my nose. It was small - about 1/8" diameter, but often with a watery scab and quite nasty looking. I'm still wondering if it's maybe some kind of fungus thing. It had some lines extending from it in different directions. It hasn't improved as much as the other one, but it's definitely smaller, with more of a crust now rather than a watery scab. It looks much less nasty. The extending lines have faded.
The AKs are all better, but none are completely gone - at least not yet. Age spots have faded somewhat.
Conclusion: I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm really quite amazed and relieved about the progress so far, yet I still feel anxious, and I'd definitely like to be completely rid of these things. I've wanted to stay away from the Curaderm because of the urea in it (I'm a purist and set in my ways). But I've decided to order some Curaderm now so I'll have it in case I need it a month from now. I'll be away from home, and it won't be easy to mash eggplant everyday.
I'd really like do another fast to see if I can speed up the healing process again, but now I'm too busy. Plus, the progress so far has made me feel a little less desperate. But I've still been doing a 36 hour fast about twice a week, and eating vegan. Seems to help. I think it couldn't hurt.
I'll probably check back in later on to update my progress (or lack of).
Sorry this was so long.
Thank you again, forum!
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 14:58:03
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I was about to order some Curaderm to take along with me on my trip next month, but I began to question it and came across some discouraging information when I googled "Curaderm scam". I posted more on that on the thread here called "Curaderm ?".
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2008 : 17:15:19
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Progress:
I'm still using the eggplant mix that I described above.
I've been mostly concerned about the lesion on my nose. It was sometimes getting very red and then fading, and then red again. But I've started to notice that after each red time, it's a little better later than it was before. Yesterday morning it was very red after several days of being faded. But when I looked at it closely, it seemed obvious that a layer of diseased skin had come off the top. So that's a GOOD thing. No wonder it was red! There are also 2 new tiny pinpoint scabs, one at each end of the lesion. The lesion has already faded again, and now it's more faded than ever.
The larger skin cancer on my chest continues to fade and shrink. Yesterday a small part of it had reddened, but that is gone now, and this skin cancer is also looking better than ever.
I'm concluding that these occasional reddenings are indications that the cancers are steadily cleaning themselves out, as evidenced by spurts of peeling skin at the surface. The peeling skin is pulled off by the eggplant, making the lesions temporarily appear more red.
Between applications of the eggplant mix, I'm not using the tea tree oil anymore. It just doesn't seem necessary, and it was becoming too irrating. I'm using aloe vera between applications instead of tea tree oil.
I'm still water fasting every fourth day. Also eating exclusively a raw food vegan diet, with B12 supplement. A couple of days ago I got a bottle of acai juice, a bottle of mangostein juice, and a bottle of noni juice. I wanted to try going for a few days just consuming only those juices and also some raw mashed eggplant mixed with powdered raspberry seed. The idea was to absolutely permeate my system with nothing but these heavy-duty cancer fighters. But I got too hungry. Oh well, I'll try it again sometime. Still seems like a good idea if I can do it for a little while.
Fasting on only water often seems much easier than radically limiting the diet to only juice or fruit or whatever. (A raw vegan diet is not radical, and it's very satisfying if it's done right and includes enough of all the necessary nutrients).
I'm scheduling another longer water fast beginning Tuesday. When I break that fast, it might be a really good time to consume only the mashed eggplant and raspberry seeds and the acai/mangostein/noni juices.
That noni juice is some Bad tasting stuff! I only mix a little of it with the acai and mangostein juices. I wonder if noni juice tastes good after several days of fasting? I intend to find out.
About bandages: My biggest challenge during this treatment has been to find a bandage that doesn't rip off my sensitive skin. Every adhesive tape or adhesive bandage leaves open wounds. Even the "ouchless" ones and the ones for sensitive skin.
This solution has worked very well for me: After applying the eggplant mix and blotting it with tissue paper, I apply Califlora Gel all around the circumference of the eggplant application. The gel doesn't touch the cancer lesions. The gel is slightly sticky until it dries, so I place my gauze (or bandage with the adhesive ends cut off) over the eggplant application and stick it onto the Califlora gel. The gauze sticks to the gel sufficiently enough to stay on (unless I'm moving around a lot), but it can be removed without taking off my skin. Califlora gel is made using Calendular flowers, and it's great for burns and itches. Almost every health food store carries it.
But if anyone knows of any particular bandage that comes in all sizes and is EXTREMELY gentle on skin, please let us know!
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 01:59:21
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The 3M micropore tape comes off pretty easy yet sticks pretty well.
I ordered a box of 24 rolls of the flesh colored ( enough to last me a few years) I use chickweed healing salve http://www.chickweedhealingsalve.com/ and then I use a small patch of gauze tape it down with the micropore tape.
Not to discourage, but after a few months of trying the e/v concoction I'm pretty much convinced you'll get as much progress just using vinegar. The acetic acid in it can knock out ak's and I have knocked one out using just vinegar.
Under the false belief that curaderm and sunspot were getting their active ingredient Solanum sodomaeum from a type of "eggplant" I gave it a serious try..
The devil's apple is not eggplant and that's the plant that curaderm and sunspot get their active ingredient Solanum sodomaeum.
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 17:26:37
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Hi Anivoc,
Thanks for your help!
Is the 3M micropore tape available at drug stores, or does it have to be ordered? I've looked for it at the drug store, but couldn't find it. Maybe I'm just blind when it comes to looking at all those different kinds of bandages!
Can you let us know who makes it and where you ordered it from?
Also, do you apply the chickweed salve underneath where you put the tape?
About the vinegar, I haven't used vinegar at all because it makes my skin itch like crazy. The eggplant/raspberry/noni/oregano extract mix that I'm using seems to be working very well without any vinegar at all.
That's interesting that you've been able to knock out AKs with vinegar.
I've knocked out several AKs with tea tree oil, and that's the reason I'm using it alternately with the eggplant mix. In my last post, I'd decided to stop using it, but changed my mind again now that the irritation from it has gone down. Sometimes (like yesterday), I can't apply the eggplant all day and I begin to get a feeling like there's something squirming around inside the lesion on my nose. I apply the tea tree oil, and the feeling goes away.
I don't think I can get rid of these cancer lesions with just the tea tree oil though, because I have to take so many breaks from it due to the irritation.
I always keep the eggplant/raspberry seed mix on all night, reapplying it in the middle of the night. Usually I can apply it a couple of times during the day too.
This morning, I was very encouraged by how faded the lesion on my nose now is. I imagine myself going back to the dermatologists who said I had cancer and showing off my new healthy skin! :)
Thanks again for the info! I'd love to find a tape that I can use. What I'm doing now works well for when I'm sleeping, but I'm having to restrict my movements during the day just to keep my bandages on. Plus, talking or laughing loosens them. |
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 22:41:19
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| I feel really confused by you guys and what has happened with me and curaderm. First of all, the basil cell is a mole cancer. So if you have it cut out and miss some it grows more rapidlly. When I used it on my face it followed the roots all over the place. It didn't just fade. Whole sections one to two inches of skin peeled of my face leaving flesh and raw looking meat. I had tape all over the place. Then they started healing while I kept putting on the cream. I didn't stop and give the cancer a chance to grow back. I just kept puttin it on. Then my whole face healed and you can't even tell. Except, the squamas cancer looks different. It has not healed yet. Basil is more on the cerface and spread out. Basil cell when the skin comes off you can see the little white cancer spots, then they seem to slowly desolve and then the skin heals. Squamos cancer is deeper and localized. I had a place that allmost went all the way through my nostril. About the size of a pencil eraser. Now it is 3/4 the way filled in. It's been a year, but an herbalist friend of mine said that people always expext fast results when in truth I think the rule of thumb is for every year you've had something it takes a mounth or two to heal. Now I'm using dmso along with the cream. I'm hoping the dmso will act as a little faster conductor for the cream. |
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Barbara
USA
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 15:29:25
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Today I made the eggppant mixture and bought orange oil. Wow! Is this normal for the orange oil after the eggplant to burn the bbc??
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:39:24
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anivoc, my understanding is that Sunspot contains extracts from Sand Brier (Solanum carolinense), and Curaderm contains extracts from Devil's Apple (Solanum sodomaeum). Both are members of the nightshade family, as is eggplant.
marsha, your post gives me a lot to think about. Maybe I'm just kidding myself that what I'm doing is really working. The one on my chest is basal. It did peel off with meaty stuff underneath that scabbed over and peeled off again. Since then, it seems it's just been fading and getting smaller. It's very smooth now, but I can still see where it is, or at least what's left of it. I feel pretty good about that one.
The one on my nose is squamous. It's red again today, and a couple of red spots have popped up nearby. I can see little extension lines coming off those spots. I have no idea how deep it goes underneath the surface. It's a little indented into my nose that I can see, but not much. I've been hesitant to get the Curaderm because I don't like some of the ingredients. But I'm keeping an open mind about it, and it may be the next option for me down the road.
I do want to avoid surgery on my nose if possible, but on the other hand, I don't want to allow this thing to grow while I'm thinking that what I'm doing is working, when in fact, maybe it's not. The progress on my basal cell lesion is definite and undeniable, so that's helping me keep my hopes up on treating my nose.
Your experience with squamous and the Curaderm is very encouraging. I hope you will continue to post your progress.
Yesterday I started fasting and intend to keep it up for a week or longer, if possible. According to Dr. Fuhrman (who entered medical school to become a doctor after being inspired by the healing results of his own 46-day fast), "...it is after the first week that the large health benefits begin to reveal themselves."
Fasting is usually more effective on benign tumors than on cancer, but I'm hoping it will have some effect on skin cancer, since most skin cancers aren't as devastating as other cancers. I'm considering taking some herbal supplements (turmeric, ellagic acid, and Green Tea extract) during the fast as kind of a one-two punch.
This is such a challenge, but I do believe in the possibility of a natural cure, and intend to go this route first for sure.
Best wishes to everyone.
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:57:32
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When the heals even while putting on the curaderm then it is done. I notice that the percent rate of people that are healed for more than 5 years also includes the people who did not finish the treatment. I can understand not wanting to finish, I've wanted to quit many times
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2008 : 18:53:44
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Hi Barbara,
I tried the orange oil ONE time, and it made my forehead turn painfully red and very swollen for 4 or 5 days. I will never use it again. Some people don't seem to have that kind of extreme reaction to it. I'm wondering about the differences in strength in the products. Maybe orange oil from the peel is stronger than orange oil from the seed, or whatever.
Still fasting. I found an easier way to mash the eggplant than using the suribachi. Using my old juicer, if I replace the juicing screen with the juicing shield, the eggplant turns into a perfect pulp. I peel the eggplant first and chop it. Voila! Perfect poultice. I like this better than a blender because adding liquid is unnecessary, and because I can limit what I make to a day's supply.
Here's a great ellagic acid product (I think), called Ellagic Defense, from Natural health Solutions (1-800-860-9583). It's composed of 90% ellagic acid from the Haritaki fruit (Terminalia Chebula). The only other ingredient (besides rice flour for the capsule) is bioperine - an extract from black pepper (piperine). In India, Haritaki fruit has long been considered an Ayurvedic medicinal, having anti-tumor properties.
The piperine is fairly well established as having properties to increase bioavailability. It should not be taken along with chemical drugs or caffeine or any other substance that may have harmful side effects. To me, bioperine from piperine is preferable to DMSO because piperine is a natural product. DMSO is an effective paint stripper. No thanks.
I plan on adding Ellagic Defense to my eggplant mix as soon as it comes in the mail. Plus I'll be taking it orally.
There's also a curcumin product called Curcumin Pro that contains bioperine (1-800-295-8333). I'm going to order this too and take it orally.
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desertgal
USA
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 02:06:43
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Hi Alli, I just found this forum tonight and was very interested in joining it because I have been fighting skin cancers
for over 30 years. My only treatment for them for many years was the
Freezing method used by my dermatologist. Oh, I did have several surgically removed years ago on my face, leg and neck. About a year ago, I discovered via the Internet Curaderm. I ordered a s container of it and started treatment of a basal cell on my upper chest. Since I lived at the beach growing up, I had many severe sunburns and recently I read that if one has had 5 or more serious sunburns, you can expect to have skin cancers.
The first use of Curaderm or BEC5 was a success. Then I continued to use it on another BS on my chest. I began that treatment 2 timss a day, following the prescribed directions very carefully. I guess because of my constant exposure to the sun when I was young, the cancer cells were camped out under my skin. What BEC5 does is it
seeks out cancer cells around the one on the surface you begin to treat. It takes anywhere from 8 weeks to 16 weeks to finally finish
the treatment where you started. This includes all the ones that were hiding under your skin. The beauty of this product is that actually kills the Cancer cells, but does not do anything to the healthy cells. Your skin regrows where you have been treating and it is just like baby skin. Pink and soft. Since February 2008, I have
treated my arm where I had basal cell that the Dr had frozen off a number of times over the years, but it never went away. That spot
disappeared and was replaced with new skin, but it kept bringing up other areas adjacent which I continued to treat so now I have treated about 6 inches on my right forearm and have this beautiful new skin that is wrinkle free. I have used about 8-10 containers of BEC5,and I bought the book, The Egglplant Cancer Cure by Dr. Bill E. Cham, PhD the man who discovered this fabulous cure. The book was published in 2007 and at that time he had cured over 80,000 people with skin cancer. It works, but you have to patient and use it as directed. Hope this helps you.
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2008 : 10:16:04
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Desertgal,I am so happy to here about someone else using curaderm. A real person!! I also am on my 8th bottle. And like you have had great success, except for these squamos cells on my nose. They are taking for ever. So now I am trying other diet things also. I ordered the kal-la-wall-la,or calaguala, that I think dan mentioned, and am now taking that.
Allie, I was just using dmso as a conductor for the curaderm, I didn’t like the idea of it being a solvent. Do you think this other stuff would work as a conductor for curaderm?
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2008 : 21:10:09
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| I added a batch of my pureed eggplant and vinegar to ordinary hand lotion and am applying it to some suspect spots. Someone else mentioned possible "binding" effects when the eggplant alkaloid mixes with oils, so I am not sure of the efficacy of this. But it is pleasant and convenient. Just thought I'd throw in the suggestion for others to try if they if they want to, and give comments. |
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Barbara
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 06:59:15
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| Will the red clean patch of skin I have now from the orange oil grow my normal skin back?!? I am sticking to the eggplant :) |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2008 : 15:30:54
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Hi desertgal,
Very glad to hear that the Curaderm is working for you!
Right now I'm sticking with the eggplant because it does seem to be working (though slowly, after the first, more dramatic results). I would be using the Curaderm right now, except that I'm such a purist when it comes to ingredients, and I worry over the urea in the Curaderm. But I will DEFINITELY use the Curaderm before I resort to surgery, if my more serious spots take a turn for the worse!
And desertgal, I'm encouraged by your success as well as Marsha's success. My hope is that the BEC5 in the eggplant will ultimately be as effective as the BEC5 in the Curaderm. Since both are BEC5, hearing about successes with the Curaderm helps me to stay hopeful.
Marsha, about the DMSO, of course this is all new to me, but as I understand it, the ability of DMSO to act as a conductor for whatever is applied to the lesion means that the DMSO is enhancing bioavailability. Since the bioperine (the extract from piperine) also enhances bioavailability, I'm assuming it does the same thing as the DMSO. But I haven't seen any information about which substance - bioperine or DMSO - would be more effective. My choice is the bioperine, but that's because I'm so extremely picky about natural products. I have this belief that anything chemical could be food for cancer, so I try to avoid it all. That's probably an extreme view, so I really wouldn't expect others to share it. But I'm just very cautious, so I'm happy to see that there's a natural alternative to the DMSO, which, for me, is preferable.
Barbara, I had the same fear when I tried the orange oil! :) The redness did go away, thank goodness, and maybe yours has gone away by now. I hope so. I had 2 AKs in that area when I applied the orange oil. They disappeared temporarily while my skin was red and swollen, but when the redness and swelling were gone, the AKs were back again. Now I'm treating them with the eggplant and they seem to be slowly getting better. Both are just pink spots now with no scabbing, so that's a big improvement.
My fast only lasted 3 days, but still, it seemed to have a good effect. Decided (again) to leave off the tea tree oil for good, or at least for a while, on my worse spots, since I got a bit of a rash last time I used it.
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Barbara
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:50:20
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| Yes, the red is gone now, that orange oil sure does burn! I am just using the vinegar eggplant now and every couple days putting the orange oil on for an hour or so-the burning is bad. The eggplant does not bother me. |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2008 : 15:45:41
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Barbara,
Good to hear the redness is gone!
An update:
A couple of days ago, the worrisome cancer on my nose suddenly seemed to shrink by about half! There's new skin in much of the previously open area.
I was very happy and excited about this great progress, UNTIL..... a new thing under my eye suddenly flared up and appeared very manacing! For several days, it had been just a small indentation with a slight bump above it. Now, along with the new swelling and reddness, the little bump has opened up. Previously, I thought maybe it was something caused by pulling off the adhesive tapes. But just in case it was something more serious, I'd already started applying the eggplant a couple of days before the flare-up.
I have no idea what this new thing is. A dermatologist has never seen it.
LUCKILY, the same day that it flared up, I read the post by Beloved33 under the thread, "Success...at last!" Beloved33 has been using a mix that - along with other things - included Green Tea. I liked the idea of the Green Tea, so I brewed some up and applied it all over my face.
I found the Green Tea to be very soothing. Within a few hours, it knocked the swelling and inflammation way down on that new spot, and smoothed out the little irritation bumps on my chest from former applications of tea tree oil. From now on, I'll be applying Green Tea instead of tea tree oil whenever I can't apply the eggplant.
I've been reading about the EGCG in Green Tea and how it's been shown to fight cancer by having a measureable effect on the AH receptor molecule.
So now my new regimen is this: Frequent Green Tea applications during the day. Eggplant and raspberry seed poultices (no vinegar) during the night (new poulitice application and bandages changed in the middle of the night). I've dropped the oregano extract and noni from the eggplant mix.
I'm still waiting for my Ellagic Defense which I plan on adding to the eggplant mix, plus taking orally. Also waiting for EGCG (Green Tea extract) to add to the eggplant mix.
I finally took a picture of the thing on my nose. On the day it shrank so much, I figured I better take a picture now, before it's gone forever. The new thing under my eye is also in the picture, in it's most flared-up stage. I'll try to take a picture every week to record the progress. At some point, I'll post the pictures here.
The basal cancer on my chest is very small now. I should probably take a picture of that one too before it goes away. The spot on my chest that my dermagologist called a "precancer wanting to be cancer" is no longer visable at all, but I'm still treating the area with eggplant, and will continue for a while just to make sure it's completely gone.
The "precancer wanting to be cancer" on the side of my nose has gone back to the very small eyeglasses mark it seemed to start out as. It may still peel some more.
Age spots have faded significantly.
All precancers are in total fading mode, no rough or peeling surface except for 2 very tiny areas.
Diet is still raw vegan, including lots of nuts and seeds (especially sunflower seed and unhulled [brown] sesame seed for the calcium), fresh fruits and veggies, some raw wheat germ and flax seed. Frequent fasting.
And a full-brimmed HAT at all times!
My spirits are very high with these results. Very confident that the cancer is in full retreat. Especially happy now about the Green Tea, because it's something I can apply for life with total convenience, as a cancer preventive.
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michael33
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 22:39:03
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Hi all,
Thanks to everyone for posting about this! I stumbled across this forum last week and thought I'd give the eggplant treatment a try. I have a small basal cell carcinoma growth on my right shoulder blade... Very similar to other ones that I've had removed in the past. Before having this one cut out, I figured I would try mixing up my own batch of eggplant/apple cider vinegar. (Can't hurt, as far as I'm concerned!)
Anyway, the results so far have been encouraging. I blended the raw eggplant (skin, seeds and all) with some apple cider vinegar using my stick blender. Made it pretty chunky in texture, which has helped keep it on the growth area. After leaving it in the refrigerator for a few days, I used it to completely soak a cotton ball. Then applied it, put a large bandage on top and let it do its magic.
The first couple of days it merely irritated the sore areas. The whole BCC turned pretty red (not the pale white to light pink from before). Having the mixture on it all day wasn't too bad. It would burn a bit from time to time, but I can handle that.
Well, this afternoon I took a shower after a quick trip to the gym. I figured I'd take the bandage and cotton ball off (no obvious color change - still very red) and let the water hit it for awhile. I tried massaging the sore area a few times under the water and, to my surprise, skin from the growth started peeling right off! I managed to flake off a good portion from the right half of growth. I would've kept pulling off more skin since it seemed quite loose. However, it started bleeding a bit, so I stopped for now. I'm hoping this is what I read about - where the skin cancer can actually fall off.  I am going to be patient and keep using the stuff. Only day 4 so far.
Sorry if that was a bit long-winded and a little gross, but I do thank everyone for their insight here.  It has been very helpful. |
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2008 : 14:13:16
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That does sound encouraging, Michael33!
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Allie
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2008 : 17:50:01
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Well, circumstances have changed drastically for me.
Since my last post on this thread, I experimented with adding green papaya to the eggplant mix. But my skin soon became extremely inflamed. I dropped the papaya, thinking the original eggplant and raspberry seed mix would bring me back on track. I also received caps of Ellagic Defense with piperine extract (bioperine), and caps of Green Tea Extract. I added both - plus Turmeric extract - to the mix, and also started taking them orally.
It soon became apparent though that the inflammation on my nose had become infected! I panicked, and came to the conclusion - right or wrong - that covered applications of anything continuously wet against the open lesion on my nose may have been the cause of the infection, since I live in a tropical climate.
I decided to give it up, see a doctor and arrange for Mohs surgery. Meanwhile, I had about 3 days worth of amoxicillin left over from an infected tooth the year before, so I started taking that. I stopped applying the eggplant, but continued oral doses of Ellagic Defense, Green Tea Extract, and Turmeric extract.
Amazingly, by the time I'd finished taking the amoxicillin, my nose cleared up to the point where it looked like a simple precancer. That's how it had looked shortly before I visited the dermatologist who told me it was cancer. I'd gone to see him originally because of recent inflamation of the spot. I now began to wonder if the spot had just been a precancer all along that had become infected and then MISDIAGNOSED by the dermatologist as cancer. I thought maybe the infection had never quite healed during these last two months, and it was the infection - not skin cancer - that was causing the problem.
The dermatologist had never biopsied the spot. He said it was cancer and it required surgery, and that was that. Same with the larger spot on my chest.
The "cancer" on my chest had been steadily improving for some time. After some research of cancer pictures on the internet, the one that looks most like mine is called a "superficial basal cell carcinoma". According to info on the medical websites, superficial BCCs are sometimes mistaken for "nummular dermatitis", a much less serious condition. I now believe my dermatologist went the other way around and mistook a nummular dermatitis on my chest for a superficial BCC.
I scheduled a biopsy with an oral and facial reconstruction surgeon. After the biopsy, I planned on having Mohs done in another state, since the minimum fee where I live is $3,000, and I'm uninsured. Despite being aware of my dermatologist's cancer diagnosis, the oral surgeon looked at my nose and told me he thought the lesion was only a precancer. He said he'd do a biopsy if that's what I really wanted, but he said he didn't think it was necessary. He offered to take the lesion off with the laser instead. Removing it with a laser rather than freezing it would allow him to see how much needed to be removed. He said that's what he would do if it were him.
So I said OK, and that's what happened (yesterday). The oral surgeon said the precancer did not appear to go very deep.
Well, today I have a rather sizeable opening on my nose that may or may not leave a scar, but for the time being, I'm just extremely relieved that this episode in my life might now be almost over! I'm just praying that the opening heals without another infection.
As for the spot on my chest, I never even bothered to show it to the oral surgeon. It just seems so obvious that the spot has never been cancer. Or, if it was, then the eggplant got it way under control in about a week. I'm treating it as nummular dermatitis. It's right where the scoop necklines of my work Tshirts rub on my skin, and I gave up those shirts a couple of months ago. I'm now putting plenty of Kukui Nut oil and Kamani Nut oil on it and on the other similar spot on my chest that has already disappeared. I plan to have my mercury fillings removed as soon as possible, since mercury fillings have been linked to nummular dermatitis.
Of course it's possible that the eggplant applications reversed a cancer to a precancer; and the addition of papaya brought discarded toxins to the surface that had the appearance of an infection. Or, it's even possible that the oral doses of Ellagic defense, Green Tea, and Turmeric extract killed the cancer in less than a week.
But I feel my best guess is that both spots were misdiagnosed. My dermatologist apparently does not have a great reputation, and I'll never visit him again.
Whatever the case, as a preventive measure, I plan on continuing to apply the Green Tea topically plus taking oral doses of the Ellagic Defense (with bioperine), the Green Tea Extract, and the Turmeric Extract for some time to come - maybe the rest of my life.
The eggplant did help in other ways. Two out of four other precancers appear to be healed, definitely as a result of applying the eggplant. The "precancer wanting to be cancer" on my chest was probably another spot of nummular dermatitis (also right at my Tshirts' scoop neckline). It has now disappeared completely after applying the eggplant. The other "precancer wanting to be cancer" near the bridge of my nose has healed considerably and is no longer open at all.
End of my story (I hope).
Although I may not have ever had skin cancer, I've had a glimpse into the skin cancer experience. My thoughts and prayers are with you all, and I wish everyone a speedy and complete recovery!
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2008 : 09:10:02
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Allie,
My husband gets mad at me for giving medical advice, but your post here invites it.
First of all, I'm glad that you have improvement and reassurance.
Secondly, before you write "case closed," from the description you give of your problems, coming and going, intensifying and retreating, I would suggest that you at least look at your DIET. Read the materials on this website about diet and skin cancer. I suspect that you are SUGAR-SENSITIVE and/or have a Candida yeast problem which, at least for me, seems clearly to account for "spots" coming and going. I did have two biopsied BCC's that have been surgically removed, but I also seem to have some questionable "spots" that need attention for the future. I think I'm doing well with the mixture of pancreatin and eggplant (and hand lotion) that I have mentioned earlier, but to me it's obvious that my underlying diet is also affecting what happens.
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Eggplant for skin cancer very exciting
