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La T
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 Posted - 08/02/2007 : 22:49:34
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In starting treatment on a BCC on my chin with orange oil (undiluted) I included a control area and several spots that were dismissed by my dermatologist. The areas dismissed were very small, <1/8 in. diameter, not seen by the eye but could be felt; were dry and a bit scaly. They have been present for about 6 months (?) and don't go away.
The area on my chin tingled a bit but there wasn't much of a reaction. My control area was burned: red, irritated, hurt. The areas surrounding the scaly areas were burned as well. I was very concerned that this was signalling cancers or precancers below the skin. A day later I decided this was just a burn to normal skin as the burn marks were exactly the same shape as the Q-tips used (which were taped on for about 30-40 minutes).
So, this contradicts the info I've read on this site about the orange oil not hurting healthy skin. I will continue to try orange oil ONLY on the very small area of the BCC. I did test orange cleaner (Safeway's Orange Multi Purpose Deoderizing Cleaner) prior to this testing on my leg with no adverse reactions.
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I must add that this website is invaluable and very encouraging. Thank you to all for posting.
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I have a lengthy, detailed blog on my treatment which can be read here:
http://greenandclean.livejournal.com/
Good luck everyone! |
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fforest
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 23:25:56
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| I do not think it was a good idea to leave the orange oil on your skin for so long...I have coved my face with it many times and never got a burn...Just put it on your skin and let it dry out,you will not have a problem... |
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dan
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Posted - 08/03/2007 : 00:42:29
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La T, thanks for the post and the blog. Very interesting! It's a good warning to start slowly on normal skin, and also to let orange oil dry. It is extremely useful to get feedback on reactions because everyone is a little different and this is a very new, very experimental skin cancer treatment. Some people may have or could develop allergies to orange oil. And now we know some people can evidently develop skin burns. If I were considering using orange oil for the first time, I'd like to know everything that could go wrong.
I will say I was self treating a couple of probable skin cancers on my shoulders with orange oil and happened to wipe some excess on my chest. Oh my, what a severe unexpected reaction that developed. I thought it might be an allergy but I just kept applying it to my chest daily anyway since other areas (arms. legs) still had no reaction. It took about six weeks to clear up my chest, and it was red and raw for much of that time. I had no idea there was a big problem on my chest before that. I'm sure glad I used orange oil even though it was a very scary experience.
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BlondeAmbition3
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Posted - 09/22/2009 : 23:38:18
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Originally posted by dan
I will say I was self treating a couple of probable skin cancers on my shoulders with orange oil and happened to wipe some excess on my chest. Oh my, what a severe unexpected reaction that developed.
This was pretty much MY experience this evening! I was treating my scalp, face, arms... and the BACK of my neck with Orange Oil .. and accidentally allowed it to sort of 'roll' down my back and down my chest..Let me tell you now!... within ten minutes or so I was ON FIRE and the RASH (almost like a third degree burn!) that came out on both my NECK AND CHEST was insane!.. and painful!!!!... LOL.. My Husband grabbed a large CHINESE Fan and fanned me for over ten minutes before the pain subsided! The beauty of the Orange Oil is the pain subsides .. and actually very quickly.. altho' when I'm in THAT kind of pain it seems like HOURS!
I would really like to know WHAT this means.... b'cuz I sure hope I don't have ALL that much more SKIN Cancer lurking beneath my Skin!  |
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dan
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Posted - 09/23/2009 : 08:30:40
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| I'm guessing the problem in my case was an underlying fungal infection, but who knows? I did treat my chest a couple of years ago with the orange oil and it remains clear now. It was a very painful experience but I am glad I did it. I also had a good history with orange oil before the chest experience so I did not get discouraged after a couple of weeks. If the problem is a fungus infection, there may be other less painful ways of treating it. |
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BlondeAmbition3
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Posted - 09/23/2009 : 11:44:49
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Originally posted by dan
I'm guessing the problem in my case was an underlying fungal infection, but who knows? I did treat my chest a couple of years ago with the orange oil and it remains clear now. It was a very painful experience but I am glad I did it. I also had a good history with orange oil before the chest experience so I did not get discouraged after a couple of weeks. If the problem is a fungus infection, there may be other less painful ways of treating it.
So the Orange Oil (in your opinion) will react to fungal infections also? |
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dan
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Posted - 09/24/2009 : 00:11:31
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Yes, orange oil has been shown in studies to be strongly antifungal.
Antibacterial and antifungal activity of ten essential oils in vitro at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8893526
and possibly (is bitter orange oil close enough to orange oil?)
Oil of bitter orange: new topical antifungal agent at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8737885
Here is the abstract from the first reference:
The essential oils of aegle, ageratum, citronella, eucalyptus, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa, patchouli and peppermint, were tested for antibacterial activity against 22 bacteria, including Gram-positive cocci and rods and Gram-negative rods, and twelve fungi (3 yeast-like and 9 filamentous) by the disc diffusion method. Lemongrass, eucalyptus, peppermint and orange oils were effective against all the 22 bacterial strains. Aegle and palmarosa oils inhibited 21 bacteria; patchouli and ageratum oils inhibited 20 bacteria and citronella and geranium oils were inhibitory to 15 and 12 bacterial strains, respectively. All twelve fungi were inhibited by seven oils (aegle, citronella, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa and patchouli). Eucalyptus and peppermint oils were effective against eleven fungi. Ageratum oil was inhibitory to only four fungi tested. The MIC of eucalyptus, lemongrass, palmarosa and peppermint oils ranged from 0.16 to > 20 microliters ml-1 for eighteen bacteria and from 0.25 to 10 microliters ml-1 for twelve fungi.
Here is the conclusion to the oil of bitter orange (OBO) study:
CONCLUSIONS: An in vitro study showed that OBO (natural product) exerts fungistatic and fungicidal activity against a variety of pathogenic dermatophyte species. It is a promising, cheap, and available topical antifungal therapeutic agent.
There are also several studies regarding the monoterpene d-limonene (orange oil) and cancer including
Chemoprevention and therapy of cancer by d-limonene at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7948106
and Prevention and Therapy of Cancer by Dietary Monoterpenes at http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/129/3/775S
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Brigid
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:18:42
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| Hi All, I'm a newbie here. WOuld love advice especially from anyone who has had a BCC or SCC close to the upper lip. 14 months ago I had a shave biopsy and they found both SCC and BCC in one small tumor about 1/3 or 1/2 inch above my upper lip. Now the area has become puffy and there are two permanent faint red spots there that appeared a few months ago. I want to use either Curaderm or the eggplant/vinegar mix people have posted about, but I'm wary about the location: is it possible that either the Curaderm BEC-5 or the eggplant pulp/vinegar could leave a crater in my upper lip or impair its function? I gather that BEC-5 is not a true escharotic like Cansema. I haven't used Cansema b/c of the location. Any thoughts much appreciated --Brigid |
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dan
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Posted - 01/05/2010 : 01:03:47
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| Hi Brigid, I think that Curaderm BEC-5 and the eggplant pulp/vinegar are among the more gentle topical treatments so you should have time to change your mind if the treatment is becoming too aggressive. A bigger concern is that either of these treatments may not work fast enough or complete the job. They seem to work for some people and not for others. |
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Lily44
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Posted - 12/07/2010 : 03:32:14
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Originally posted by dan
Yes, orange oil has been shown in studies to be strongly antifungal.
Antibacterial and antifungal activity of ten essential oils in vitro at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8893526
and possibly (is bitter orange oil close enough to orange oil?)
Oil of bitter orange: new topical antifungal agent at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8737885
Here is the abstract from the first reference:
The essential oils of aegle, ageratum, citronella, eucalyptus, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa, patchouli and peppermint, were tested for antibacterial activity against 22 bacteria, including Gram-positive cocci and rods and Gram-negative rods, and twelve fungi (3 yeast-like and 9 filamentous) by the disc diffusion method. Lemongrass, eucalyptus, peppermint and orange oils were effective against all the 22 bacterial strains. Aegle and palmarosa oils inhibited 21 bacteria; patchouli and ageratum oils inhibited 20 bacteria and citronella and geranium oils were inhibitory to 15 and 12 bacterial strains, respectively. All twelve fungi were inhibited by seven oils (aegle, citronella, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa and patchouli). Eucalyptus and peppermint oils were effective against eleven fungi. Ageratum oil was inhibitory to only four fungi tested. The MIC of eucalyptus, lemongrass, palmarosa and peppermint oils ranged from 0.16 to > 20 microliters ml-1 for eighteen bacteria and from 0.25 to 10 microliters ml-1 for twelve fungi.
Here is the conclusion to the oil of bitter orange (OBO) study:
CONCLUSIONS: An in vitro study showed that OBO (natural product) exerts fungistatic and fungicidal activity against a variety of pathogenic dermatophyte species. It is a promising, cheap, and available topical antifungal therapeutic agent.
There are also several studies regarding the monoterpene d-limonene (orange oil) and cancer including
Chemoprevention and therapy of cancer by d-limonene at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7948106
and Prevention and Therapy of Cancer by Dietary Monoterpenes at http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/129/3/775S
Very interesting post about the oils. I have about a dozen oils, but I haven't gotten around to trying all of them on skin cancer yet. I really didn't think I still had a problem until I used a new bottle of APRICOT KERNEL oil. I believe it's showing up some problem spots I didn't know I had.
About orange oil. I have been using TKO ORANGE OIL for about 6 years, as a cleaner. It's wonderful to remove pet, and food stains from the carpet. I had a half gallon bottle, but was just about out of it, so I just ordered a new pint bottle from Swanson's.
Over the years I've washed my hair with it, took a bath in it, and practically rubbed it from head to toe, and left it on my skin. The orange smell doesn't bother me. I've never had any adverse reactions from it. It didn't even sting, or burn on what I'm sure was a cancer.
From looking at my skin you would think it's very delicate, because even though I mow the lawn, and raise a garden every year, I tan very little. I haven't used sun screen in years, because I think it's toxic. I do wear a hat and long sleeves about half of the time.
I would think that the problem with some orange cleaners is the surfactant in them. |
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dan
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Posted - 12/08/2010 : 00:42:28
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Hi Lily44, I agree Orange TKO is good stuff, although it did sting for me when applied on a suspect lesion. I would stay away from a orange oil based product with additives like Citrisolve for skin use, although it is a great cleaner. I agree sun screens are potentially toxic and not something you would want to apply regularly.
It is good to see a note about apricot kernel oil. We are just beginning to explore some of the essential oils for skin cancer. I have used orange and rosemary so far and they both seem pretty effective with supporting underlying science on their active ingredients. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17827696 Maybe a few other oils are helpful also. |
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