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nrsratchett

4 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  16:52:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where can one purchase this ointment? I have called several stores to no avail. Can anyone help?

Martha1

50 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  19:44:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only place I know to buy it is from their website, http://www.cymilium.com
Be prepared to wait a while for it to arrive. They are very nice and helpful, however.
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Mark

36 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  21:12:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It really does take a long time to get Cymilium. I've been waiting 14 days now...still no sign of it. I'm hoping I see it sometime soon.
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Martha1

50 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  16:28:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark, have you tried contacting them through their website? When I hadn't received my order after 8 days, I replied to their "Thank you for your order" e-mail, telling them it hadn't arrived. They replied saying they had delays due to high order volume. They gave me the USPS tracking number and said I should wait 1-3 days more. I wrote again 13 days after my order, and they replied that they were starting a trace with the USPS. It arrived the next day (14 days). This was my second order from them; it seems the first one (a long time ago) also took about 2 weeks to arrive.
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Mark

36 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  20:46:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did contact them and they just said they were running behind and it was their fault. No real details, no UPS tracking number or anything. But they did say it was shipped. SHould be any time now.
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nrsratchett

4 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2007 :  07:06:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nrsratchett

Where can one purchase this ointment? I have called several stores to no avail. Can anyone help?

Sorry- did not mean to post the same question.I have not figured this posting out...oops.Anyway this sounds discouraging.Is this the only place we can find the ointment? And Martha you mentioned this is your second order? Have you had any results and how much would you recommend ordering?

Edited by - nrsratchett on 08/23/2007 07:21:54
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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2007 :  10:04:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark and others,

I have placed two orders with the cymilium folks and it did take about two weeks to get the stuff both times. But, it is worth the wait. I have had success with the stuff...it does work. See my posts under topic "Combo therapies and one that works" for more detail.

So, with waiting for the cymilium to arrive AND waiting for the results after starting to use it, patience is a key.
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Martha1

50 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2007 :  10:31:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Rocco - it's worth it. Incredibly, placed my first order about a year ago, after I first read the topicalinfo website, but was afraid to use it for a good while. I was a little spooked by the warnings, because the lesion is on my nose, not far below my eye. I was taking pancreatin orally but not seeing much effect.

I finally tried Cymilium in mid-July and saw real results before using up the first package. When I saw it was working (after a couple of days), I placed another order. Actually, after this new order I got mixed up because I couldn't find the confirmation e-mail, and thought my order didn't go through, so I placed another order 4 days later. Because of delays, they combined the two orders and sent them together.

I have also written about my results. See my comments under "My experience with topical treatments." See also "Has anyone tried orange oil ..." and "Bleeding after 3 days Cymilium."

I have been using it for 5 weeks, with a few days off, and I'm about half-way through my second package, if that gives you an idea.
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nrsratchett

4 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2007 :  10:43:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for your replies. I am assuming this is the only place to get the ointment? Do the dermatologists think this is insane or are they open to it? I guess it could make a dent in their wallets?
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Martha1

50 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2007 :  16:42:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also have been wondering what dermatologists think about Cymilium. I may find out when I see a dermatologist for the first time, on 9/20.

The Cymilium website has a page about skin cancer at http://www.cymilium.com/SkinCancer.html
It says: "Soon after Cymilium came to market it was determined by a number of oncology clinics medical doctors, and practitioners that Cymilium can heal cancerous and pre-cancerous skin lesions. This is no surprise to our R&D department, but the quick spreading of this use, on its own, is remarkable. Several websites have been published for the sole purpose of informing patients and clinics."

I wonder how many of those "oncology clinics, medical doctors, ..." there are out there using Cymilium. I know of only one website informing people about it, which is topicalinfo.org.

Later, the same page says: "For the many who have used it, usually under the care of a clinic or medical doctor or researcher, skin lesions disappeared most often after 2 to 8 weeks of treatment ... "

Does anyone know more about these clinics, websites, etc.?
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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2007 :  16:16:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wanted to bump the cymilium topic back up the page a bit.

I am a big fan of the stuff.

I have now "cured" several spots with the combination of cymilium and my home mixture (see the topic "Combo Treatments"). I say "cured" rather than cured because it has only been a few short weeks for a couple of spots and a couple of months for others. Until they haven't recurred for an extended period of time I will just say "cured".

And once again, at least in my cases, it works, but slowly. One spot took right at a half year to remedy...the Cymilium website says up to 22 weeks. I may have to write them and give them a new record long cure time.

If you aren't having success with other products you may want to investigate Cymilium.

Edited by - rocco on 10/19/2007 16:18:42
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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2007 :  11:44:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another bump up the page for cymilium from me.

It has been two months since the last update on this topic. All is still well with the spots I treated with cymilium.....fabulous results - though not quick results.

One spot that I actually had removed vis Mohs Surgery about a year ago has returned. Imagine that. Two healings and two scars (initial biopsy and the surgery) and over $1000 out of pocket and no results.

About $15 worth of cymilium has done a better job for me.

So, I am now self-retreating this spot with:

-Cymilium 2-3 times day
-Colorless iodine several times a day
-Home Mixture 2-3 times a day (IP6, ginger root, vit C in DMSO)
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anivoc

528 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2007 :  10:32:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome Rocco.

I was wondering how you were doing. I have not been using the Cymillium as religiously as you nor doing your combo. I did start using it everyday in the morning with sunspot es. I think I will increase the applications of cymillium.

On a note about Mohs. there are no guarantees I guess. Mohs done correctly is the Gold standard in medical removal of skin cancer. The problem is there are many dermatologist out there claiming and charging for the Mohs procedure without the proper training and thus many people who pay for a Mohs surgery really got a substandard procedure. Next time you see or talk to your derm ask him if or where he was certified to perform Mohs surgery.

A few questions and request.

Where do you buy the colorless Iodine? I can't find it at drugstores here in Cali.

Where do you buy the Cymillium? I also can't find it at drugstores here in Cali and the shipping / handling is another $7.

Please describe the ratio of your home mix.

Thanks and congratulations on your home grown success!

Edited by - anivoc on 12/20/2007 10:37:20
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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  15:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anivoc,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you....holidays and all...

"""Where do you buy the colorless Iodine?"""

I found it at a CVS drugstore. I did have to ask the pharmacist for it, it was NOT with the other iodine products. The product I got is called De La Cruz Decolorized Iodine.

"""Where do you buy the Cymillium? """

I get it from their website, www.cymilium.com. I have ordered it over the internet and I have called them directly. It is a small company and can take a couple of weeks to get the stuff to you, but they are friendly and helpful.

Yeah, the shipping is kinda high, but I have been getting several boxes at a time. We get some chigger and ant bites here in TX in the summer, and that is what the stuff is meant for, so it gets used.

"""Please describe the ratio of your home mix."""

I usually use:

-1/2 half tablet (sometimes a whole tablet) of the IP6 + inositol,
-1/2 of a 500 mg vitamin C (ascorbic acid, not the esterified calcium ascorbate)
-one entire capsule of ginger extract (when I use it, and in the beginning I used it all the time)

all mixed into about one half tablespoon DMSO (I used 50% DMSO, but you could go 75% or so).

(the list of products by name and amount is also on the "combo treatments" topic)

And, like I pointed out under the "Combo treatments" thread, I applied this a couple of times a day, sometimes three, and left it for a little while...maybe 10 minutes to a half hour and then applied the cymilium opver that. Cymilium was used two or three times a day. The mix can burn, as can the cymilium, so prepare for that.

And...it...was...slow...to...work. But it did work. It actually cleared some satellite lesions that appeared in just weeks, but the main tumor took a half year to clear.

Hope this helps. Happy New Year to all.



Edited by - rocco on 12/26/2007 15:55:11
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2009 :  12:14:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rocco, or anyone else...

Where can I get DMSO? I've read that 70-90% is the
most effective for membrance penetration??

thanks!
Chris
chris@homestrong.com
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Muse

USA
27 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  16:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw some at the local health food store in OR. I asked for assistance to find it. When I read that it was a solvent and will burn your skin, I didn't purchase it. It was listed as one of the things Jim Humble said to use in his mix that would do the job. You would use MMS, the citric acid, and the DMSO. There is a subject I started as a thread where he talks about MMS and skin cancer.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2009 :  10:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris
You can purchase DMSO also at Life Extension - lef.org and search - looks like they have 2 products.
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RenegadeRose

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2010 :  11:25:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anivoc

Awesome Rocco.

I was wondering how you were doing. I have not been using the Cymillium as religiously as you nor doing your combo. I did start using it everyday in the morning with sunspot es. I think I will increase the applications of cymillium.

On a note about Mohs. there are no guarantees I guess. Mohs done correctly is the Gold standard in medical removal of skin cancer. The problem is there are many dermatologist out there claiming and charging for the Mohs procedure without the proper training and thus many people who pay for a Mohs surgery really got a substandard procedure. Next time you see or talk to your derm ask him if or where he was certified to perform Mohs surgery.

A few questions and request.

Where do you buy the colorless Iodine? I can't find it at drugstores here in Cali.

Where do you buy the Cymillium? I also can't find it at drugstores here in Cali and the shipping / handling is another $7.

Please describe the ratio of your home mix.

Thanks and congratulations on your home grown success!

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health

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2010 :  06:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can anyone tell me what kind of reaction you get when you put Cymillium on, Ex: does it turn really red, do you get a crater on your face, does your face swell up ? Please anyone out there that has used it, please tell me what happens when you apply it.
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LaneLester

21 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2010 :  08:06:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll let you know what happens to my face. I just received my shipment from the website and will start treatment today. I have a basal cell carcinoma on the side of my nose. I just moved to a new location where it cost me about $400 for the biopsy, and then I didn't have any more money for the Mohs the doc wanted to do. Fortunately, it's obvious the biopsy got most of the cancer, so I'm hopeful about the Cymillium.

Lane
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Lula

1 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2010 :  01:19:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Health.
I started to apply cymillium just 2 days ago on my BCC spot on the nose. It was a bleeding in the beginning. Now there is increased redness and swolleness around the spot.It's not that painfull but mild burning sensation. I am experimenting with the Cymillium because it used on the kids skin for incect bites, it must be safe for mature skin. I'll keep you updated.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  15:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am counting on you folks. I have recently developed what I am pretty sure is BCC on my chest, and it's spreading slowly. I have NO health insurance and very low income, and am not eligible for any public programs. I have let almost all my medical issues slide but this one is starting to get everyone's attention.

So I found this forum (and later many others) and I've ordered Cymilium. I was worried because so many have complained about the lengthy delivery time, so I tried calling them to see if there might be an expedited shipping rate. But my call went straight to voicemail. I went ahead and ordered a box on the website, and also sent them an email telling them about my worries. Only a couple of hours later I got an email back saying that my order had been shipped first class mail and they sent a tracking number in another email.

I hope that everyone here is continuing to do well? Please feel free to share your experiences and I will tell you about mine when the stuff arrives!
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Marlene

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2010 :  09:48:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ordered one box of cymilium for a small skin cancer located just above my left knee. I began the treatment, applying it three to four times a day and covering it with a band-aid. Almost immediately the pain of the cancer lesion stopped completely. Within 8 days, the lesion was half it's original size, and within 2 weeks the cancer lesion was gone completely! It has been almost 3 months since I finished the treatment, and the area where the lesion was remains as normal healthy skin.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2010 :  19:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So frustrating!!! I have a USPS tracking number for my order of Cymilium which begins and ends last Monday. It's Saturday night now and NO CYMILIUM. Being shipped by first class mail -- at $7 shipping for what looks like a small package -- it should have easily made it from Florida to Atlanta GA by now, 3 times over. I know there's no point contacting the St. James-Gray people because they DID ship it, but after the last handling at the PO in Ft Lauderdale, there is no sign of it. Now it can't arrive before Monday evening, and I have avoided other treatments in order to track the efficacy of Cymilium. I have to go out of town next week and want to see results before that.

How long did it take for all of you to get your Cymilium?
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2010 :  01:00:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Marlene for the Cymilium feedback! That was pretty much the way Cymilium worked for me several years ago. Do you have any idea of the type of skin cancer you treated? Mine was a SCC, and I'm wondering if Cymilium may be more effective on SCC than BCC. I was thinking at the time that treating skin cancer is easy but unfortunately it doesn't work that way for everyone.

babzee, we are glad to have you here. Hopefully the Cymilium will come soon. Let us know how it works for you.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2010 :  10:29:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first box of Cymilium arrived yesterday and I applied the first smudge last night. The tiny paper-foil packets are quite awkward, and I want to use them to the best advantage. How do others store them and get an opened packet to last? I simply folded over the end last night but I wonder if I should wrap it in foil or a tiny ziploc bag?

My bcc is about the size of my index fingernail, and I will take weekly photographs. I have NOT had it evaluated by a doctor and am diagnosing myself based on Internet research and my experience working in medical offices for decades. (I have no access to health insurance,so experience has been spending all money to get a diagnosis and then can't afford treatment.)
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2010 :  23:56:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi babzee, the more airtight you can close the packet the better. Maybe try one of those metal paper clamps on the fold.
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trudie

61 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2010 :  17:24:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Babzee, I had no results whatsoever from cymilium on a BCC on my face. I have posted about it elsewhere. I wish I had had better results, but I did get it very quickly from them.
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maugen

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2010 :  21:46:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I started Cymilium on 4 AK's on my forehead. I have applied it 3 times a day when I can. Most days are one or two. I have been using it for a little over a week. I can see them going away. Beneath the AK's the tissue looks a little like when I had a planters wart as a kid. I am hoping two weeks is the maximum I will have to apply this. It does burn, but just for a few minutes. Has anyone else used Cymilium for AK's?
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bodymind

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2010 :  22:38:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have AK, but am treating a BCC with cymilium. It take about one and a half weeks to receive it. I have used it for 4 days now on my forehead and have a definite inflammatory response. I used orange oil at first for about 3 weeks but I wasn't getting the inflammatory response that I think I read is needed. The burning is mild and short.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2010 :  19:40:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My friends, for anyone considering cymillium as a treatment I want to respond GO FOR IT! From my earliest posting to this forum a few months ago, I was extremely skeptical, but had no other real options. I used the cymillium rather haphazardly because I had a lot of things going on in my life, and while I could see my BSC was better, I took a couple of weeks off planning to dedicate myself to it when things quieted down. NO NEED. The carcinoma is GONE and there is no mark or discoloration to show where it was. I'm absolutely amazed and while shout this wonderful product loudly from the rooftops!!
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2010 :  01:44:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Babzee, yeah! So Cymilium worked for you and it took about a month. Thanks for the welcome news!
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2010 :  14:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not even a month, Dan, and I only went through 2 or 3 packets over about 10-14 days. I was remiss about using it because I was visiting family and the lesion was on my chest just below my collarbone and keeping a big bandage there in warm weather made people very concerned. So I was haphazard with it and prepared to start over again when I got home, but I didn't need to!
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bodymind

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2010 :  20:23:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cymillium seems to have worked for me as well! In less than a month the bcc on my forehead is gone. I will keep it close and at hand in case another spot appears, or if there is a reappearance of the old. I knew it was worth $20 and an extra month before going in for the $2000 Mohs procedure. It's truly a shame that more people don't know, or search, for alternative options. Thanks to this forum, and a sincere inquisitiveness, there are other ways!
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2010 :  01:39:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bodymind, awesome news! I suppose we can't rule out a combo effect with the orange oil and cymilium, but regardless it is wonderful to hear about your success. Treatment success with Cymilium really highlights the importance of pancreatin enzymes to our immune system in fighting cancers, yet the prominence of those enzymes and pancreas health seems to be ignored by modern medicine.
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donell

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2010 :  13:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am afraid I have skin cancer. I don't have health insurance. I found this web and will start the cymillium where do I find it? I started vitamin D, calcium and C I notice that some of the spots have lightened up a little when I started. I am afraid not to die but I am my disabled daughter only care. Please someone what else do I need to do.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2010 :  13:46:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Donell: Order the Cymillium at www.cymillium.com - that's the only way to get it. The cost is a fraction of a doctor's visit and you'll probably need only a small amount. Do some research to find pictures of skin cancers and see if they look like yours. That's what I did and I had Basal Cell Carcinoma. The Cymillium cleared it up in two weeks! I see traces of it again and am going to give it another round, but I have never been happier with an alternative treatment.
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2010 :  13:48:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry: http://www.cymilium.com/
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donell

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2010 :  22:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All these things on me look like the photos online -- at first I thought "well, maybe they look like liver spots" then I settle down and accepted they don't -- they look cancerous I have it whatever it is. I went to a free clinic last Saturday after waiting for 6 hours I went away not knowing anything. All day I went getting all the items mentioned on this site. I found a another site that mentioned hemp oil does this work?
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2010 :  03:48:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi donell, hemp oil looks promising at this point but we have not had much feedback from people that have used it. Hemp oil that you can buy legally without THC may not work because the active ingredient actually seems to be THC.
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sixftlion

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2011 :  21:41:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys, here I have daily pictures/journal of two weeks of my first Cymilium treatment. It's not very pretty, so don't look if you don't like stuff like that. I am starting 3rd week now, and it is still a process.

http://www.tennisfitnesslove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Cymilium2WeekDailyJournalLinks.pdf

Suzanna

Update: The lesion 2 months after starting Cymilium:


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The lesion is still there, slightly pinkish protrusion. The skin has not sealed completely, but the lesion doesn't react/burn to orange oil or anything. The discolored skin around it is (I think) from the ammonia in Cymilium, maybe I was just putting it on too large area. After the 2 weeks almost daily Cymilium in the report above, I was putting it on maybe every other day for another week, adding also orange oil, agrimony, vitamin E and Aloe Vera at night. I was careful to put anything other on the lesion (like lotions, sun tan lotions etc). It seems like each time I was on the tennis court and got some sun on it, it was getting irritated and little bit more red. So the weeks 7 and 8 I started to treat the skin like all the other, used soap, shea lotion, sunscreen, etc. It doesn't hurt on touch or gentle pull on the skin. I've been also very disciplined with my supplements and nutrition in general.

Edited by - sixftlion on 06/22/2011 23:42:24
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jeffp

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  10:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any news now? wish I would have tried this as I sit here with 10 stiches in my face and prolly a 3000 dollar bill coming for Mohs and plastic surgery, next one gets this treatment
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babzee

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  15:50:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry not to have kept up, Jeff. I was just raving to my daughter about cymilium yesterday. I have never had a homegrown treatment which was so cheap and so effective. Coming up on 9 months since my bcc vanished without a trace!


quote:
Originally posted by jeffp

Any news now? wish I would have tried this as I sit here with 10 stiches in my face and prolly a 3000 dollar bill coming for Mohs and plastic surgery, next one gets this treatment

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sixftlion

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2011 :  23:44:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffp

Any news now? wish I would have tried this as I sit here with 10 stiches in my face and prolly a 3000 dollar bill coming for Mohs and plastic surgery, next one gets this treatment



Jeffp, I just updated my post above (the Cymilium journal) with the picture after 2 months.
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srbernz

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2011 :  14:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey everyone, new to this forum!..Im very encouraged by all the feedback and success. I hope you all have a had continued success and health! I have a question regarding the topical treatment on BCC. I have one on my back confirmed with a punch biopsy. It is very early stages. How can one be sure that all the basal cancer cells have been killed by the treatment and is there a risk that the cells could be deeper into the skin?

Please help, I appreciate any advice. I am on the fence about what course of treatment to do and with BCC's being so common Im sure I will have more in the future as I did way to much damage to my skin in the college years..
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dan

572 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2011 :  00:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi srbernz, welcome! It is possible that cancer can be missed by any type of treatment. For example, normal skin cancer surgeries are 62-95% effective and Mho's surgeries are about 97-99% effective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal-cell_carcinoma With basal cell carcinoma, any missed cancer cells are most likely to remain in the local area. According to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10935303?dopt=Abstract there is a 0.0028 to 0.5% chance it could become metastatic. (I just felt like looking this stuff up.)

Topical treatments for skin cancer do have risks. We are always open to other ideas, but topical orange oil seems to be the best indicator we have found so far. This is how it works for me. I apply orange oil topically to a suspected site and if it stings after about a minute or two I consider it to indicate skin cancer. Any stinging will dissipate after about 25 minutes. Orange oil has some very good qualities. Orange oil is inexpensive (~5 US$), has terrific penetration abilities, smells good, and has a lot of studies and research behind its active ingredient d-limonene as an effective cancer treatment and cancer preventor. On the downside of applying orange oil topically as a skin cancer indicator, the stinging can be temporarily severe, its effectiveness as an indicator is unknown, some people may be allergic to it, and only a few people have used orange oil for this purpose. There's always lots of unknowns for alternative skin cancer treatments but for me the risk to reward ratio is worth it.
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srbernz

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Posted - 06/28/2011 :  08:50:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Dan, thanks so much for the timely response. I guess my next question is how do I know or what is the indicator that i have gotten all the cells during this treatment. And how many times a day would you suggest applying the oil? Covered or uncovered? Do you think orange oil is effective for AK's as well. One last question...is this as effective or similar to Vit C?

A lot of questions, but I really appreciate your input! I have found this site to be reassuring and so helpful!
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dan

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Posted - 06/29/2011 :  00:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks srbenz! The indicator is the delayed sting from the orange oil will be absent when the skin cancer is gone. It is a fairly subjective test but the stinging is usually not subtle. The idea would be to continue treatments for a couple of weeks beyond the disappearance of the sting. I feel the time delay between application and the onset of stinging tells about the depth of the cancer. So as treatment progresses I would expect the delay to get longer. I think orange oil works better as an indicator if used occasionally rather than as a treatment by itself, but using it as a treatment is possible too. I used orange oil uncovered and usually rinsed the skin after the stinging subsided. I applied orange oil once or twice a day as a treatment with occasional rest days as needed.

I have had good luck with cymilium and other topical pancreatin mixtures. I think cymilium works faster than orange oil which also worked for me, probably including AKs. I have not tried vitamin C topically but some people have had success with it.
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srbernz

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Posted - 06/29/2011 :  10:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you dont mind me asking dan, where have your bcc's been? I have only the one on my back but im sure more to come. And do you typically confirm yours are gone with a biopsy or visit to the derm? I am avoiding the derm if i can for fear that they will find 20 thinggs the size fo a pimple to cut on. And sadly I dont think they will encourage using a natural remedy? Do you go to the derm youself?
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BBirdz

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Posted - 06/29/2011 :  12:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dan-
I have been reading the forum since May and am very excited about the potential of natural treatments. I am growing some very healthy petty spurge plants right now but they won't be ready for at least a month. I have what I believe is a bcc growing right above my lip- maybe spreading to the lip. I also have some suspicious spots on my eyelid and near my eye. Because of the danger with petty spurge near the eyes I am thinking about using cymillian there. I'm wondering if you or anyone else has tried it near the eye or if there is another recommended treatment for there? Also have you (or anyone else) had good success using your own pancreatin cream? I ordered all the ingredients and thought I'd try it. Thanks for your help Dan and for the great service this blog provides.
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dan

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Posted - 06/30/2011 :  01:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Srbernz, I have only had one official BCC and that was on the side of my forehead in 1996. The last time I saw a derm was in 2001 with an unbiopsied SCC in the center of my forehead. At the time he said I should expect a lot of problems with my skin, and he was right. I have had skin cancer/ AK troubles on my face, top of head, neck, and back. My chest looked OK but reacted strongly to orange oil so I followed through treating that also with the orange oil. Thanks to God, things appear to be much better for me these past few years. I guess at least some of the cancer prevention measures eventually kicked in. I do see a regular MD at least yearly, basically to get blood pressure pills, but skin health has not been an issue.

BBirdz, Cymilium is a little dangerous near the eyes because it is highly alkaline (ammonia is its main ingredient) and can cause permanent damage if it contacts the eye. It is a good idea for any topical treatment to always have running water available to flush the eye for several minutes if necessary. sixftlion has a good report with pictures in this thread using Cymilium near the eye. I have had success both with my own homemade pancreatin cream and Cymilium.
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