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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2008 :  12:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I rescheduled my Mohs surgery out a couple of months so I could give Cymilium a try on a very small lesion on my nose that was biopsied as a basal cell. The skin cancer itself was about the size of the lead on a pencil, very small. Most people didn't even recognize it but since I have had skin cancer before I knew it was there. I also have another small spot of the same size next to my nose that has not been biopsied but looks just like the other one. Almost unnoticeable but I am treating that as well, at the same time.

For additional info I have changed my diet quite a bit over the last couple months. I am following many of the tips in the prevention forum: taking a high quality multi-vitamin, eating raw veggies and fruit each day, cutting way down on sugar, taking fish oil, and taking astaxanthin each day. I am providing this information because it may be boosting my immune system and (hopefully) positively affecting the Cymilium treatment. I have also lost about 10 lbs. so far

This is my third day using the Cymilium and so far I am only seeing some minor swelling but the biopsied area has become quite red so I think something is happening with it. It will be difficult for me to tell if the cancer is gone because it was so small to begin with and the dent from the biopsy is really all that is still visible. For this reason I will still go to my Mohs appt even if I think it is gone just to get an expert opinion. Any other ideas on how I can tell if it is gone?

I'll post every few days with my progress.

dan

609 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2008 :  01:35:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use orange oil as a "skin cancer meter" to check whether the skin cancer is gone. Plus, I consider orange oil (d-limonene) to be one of the more reliable skin cancer treatments with an added bonus of exceptional penetration power. D-limonene is a well studied anticancer ingredient. I think it is a natural complement to topical pancreatin enzymes as used in Cymilium.

If there are skin anomalies (cancer, AK?), orange oil caused a stinging pain that started after about a minute. It can be fairly painful. After a week or two the pain started after several minutes and became duller as well. I imagined this was because it first attacked the skin cancer nearer to the surface. Later, only the deeper skin still had cancer, hence the delay. In any case, the pain subsided like clockwork after about 25 minutes. Eventually, I could apply it to the previously affected areas with no pain.

One thing I did not like was the orange smell. It's not a bad smell, but it was hard to be discrete. Orange oil also inflamed the affected areas, even areas which I had no idea were problem areas before. At first I wondered if I was allegic to the orange oil. But I could apply it to other skin areas and not have any reaction at all.

I think it is important to incorporate several rest days after several treatment days to provide a balance of killing cancer cells and healing. Some of the previously treated areas came back after a few months but were rather easily "mopped up" with a second round of orange oil.

I used several products straight out of the bottle once or twice a day including Ecover Natural Citrus Cleaner, NOW Orange Oil (weaker), and Organic Orange TKO Cleaner, and "That Orange Stuff". I think these are all fairly pure, they all say organic on the label and have no other objectionable ingredients. These products cost around $10 a bottle. To do a simple experiment, one could try squeezing the oil from an organically grown orange peel directly onto the skin.

Try orange oil topically at your own risk. So far no one has confirmed that orange oil works for skin cancer, so please tell us about your experiences if you do try it.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  21:31:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's been a week since I started the treatment. Still a little red with some swelling. I can't tell if the spots are smaller now but that will be hard since they were small to begin with. I'm not getting any burning anymore though I was only getting a little to begin with. I guess I'll press on.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2009 :  15:25:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After 2 weeks the one smaller spot is almost unnoticeable now and the larger, previously biopsied spot is smaller though still noticeable. Seems like there is healing going on with that one but it is going slow and it's hard to tell from day to day.
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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  01:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
james, it sounds like it is going well at 2 weeks. For me, it was also difficult to gauge the progress when using Cymilium on skin cancers. I found that feeling the lesion with a finger was sometimes more valuable than just looking at it. If it feels like there is a shard of glass in the skin, there are still more treatments needed.

Also, taking a photo every few days helps objectify healing. If the camera positions are the same, you can measure the progress with a ruler on a print or on a computer monitor.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2009 :  18:07:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have one or more spots (not yet identified as BCC, but things I want to take care of) that I am treating with a mixture related to Cymillium, namely a pancreatin tablet dissolved in simple hand cream and spread on once or twice a day. The remark I would like to make is that I am seeing some positive results, but the time frame is more in the MONTHS than the WEEKS. I'm happy with that, as long as progress is made using natural materials. I plan to report more accurately later, but want to suggest here not to judge the results too quickly.
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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2009 :  00:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it was rocco that said it took him about a year for Cymilium to finally clear one of his lesions, but also some went much faster. My experience was about 8 weeks which included a couple of extra weeks just to be sure it was gone. Based on my experiences and those of several others in this forum, I expect topical pancreatin enzymes to have a very high success rate for curing skin cancers. Having people like james and thanks01 report their findings is really helpful. For those new to the topic, an introduction to topical pancreatin enzymes as a treatment for skin cancer can be found at http://www.topicalinfo.org/Skincancer.htm and http://www.topicalinfo.org/Prevention.htm#topical and http://www.topicalinfo.org/Topical.htm

Cymilium does contain ammonia which makes the treated area alkaline and has very good skin penetrating powers. Making the area alkaline is important because pancreatin enzymes work best at a pH of 8.5 and the skin cancer will tend to generate lactic acid that should be neutralized. thanks01, you may not be interested in adding ammonia (even though strictly speaking it is natural) but you might consider adding a little baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to see if it speeds things up.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  07:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok that gives me a little more encouragement. I have seen some progress just not an overwhelming amount. I planned on doing the treatment until my appointment with the derm anyways, and that is about 7 weeks away. That will give me around 10 weeks of treatment before seeing him. If I see real good results I probably won't let him do the Mohs.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2009 :  20:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Dan, for the suggestion about adding ammonia. I'm open to trying some variations here. One reason I didn't bother much so far is that this particular spot is on the back of my hand and my hands are CONSTANTLY in soapy dishwater, so must be pretty alkaline! Another thought which has piqued my interest is the Arm and Hammer toothpaste I have been using lately, which contains Baking Soda and Sodium Peroxide in a very nice applicable paste. These are also ingredients which have been variously recommended. When you try to make a homemade paste of these two items, it just falls apart. But the toothpaste has some other ingredients (possibly laurel sulfate) which keep it as a good paste. I tried it alone, but didn't see a lot of results (meant to discuss this sometime, since it's so easy to use and cheap). Perhaps I'll combine my "pancreatin handcream with some toothpaste." Now there's a recipe! Thanks, Dan.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2009 :  22:09:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i thought that sls (sodium laurel sulfate) was one of things that the moisturizer study guys asked the company making the "safe" moisturizer to avoid as it is a known skin irritant - maybe one of the natural toothpastes has baking soda and peroxide without the sls
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  22:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, RidgebackDogs - or maybe, as Dan suggests, I should just add some soda bicarb to my already existing handcream mixture, not requiring the "paste". I had read Dan's earlier contributions about the moisturizer and pay attention to it. I hardly use those, except for these medicinal purposes. Certainly no lip balm!
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  21:38:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yah! the stuff in some of the lip balms! nasty! i use the burts bees beeswax lip balm it has:
beeswax, coconut oil, sunflower seed oil, peppermint oil, lanolin, tocopherol, rosemary leaf extract, canola oil, soybean oil.
at least no sunscreen, sls, or petroleum gunk.
let us know how your treatment of the spot on your hand goes! Thanks!
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trudie

61 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2009 :  09:20:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James, Can you give us an update on your success with the cymilium?
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  11:32:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure. About a week ago one morning it looked like some 'stuff' came out of it. Now it is a very small spot so there wasn't a lot of it, but it kinda looked like maybe some dead cells or something. Like I had said before, the spot was very small to begin with and ever since I had the biopsy it has been difficult telling if there is any cancer left.

The indent from the biopsy is really all you see now and overall even that looks better. I still cannot tell if there is any cancer left so I'm going to keep applying it until my derm visit in a little over a month. My dilemma is I know my derm will want to cut it open to really determine if it is gone. Obviously if it's healed I don't want that to happen but it might be the only way to know for sure. I guess I'll wait until then to see how it looks but to me it looks like it has healed quite a bit. If I hadn't had the biopsy I know I'd be able to tell for sure, at least from the surface.

Sorry I couldn't be more definitive on my results.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  11:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, I may try out some orange oil just to see if I get a reaction and to maybe help with the killing of anything that is left as well. Not sure on that though.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  16:08:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James, remember that in a sense, time is on your side. If you think the small BCC is healed, you don't need to cut to confirm that. Just wait a half year or so and concentrate on the basic health issues that will buy you even more time and prevent more spots. This does not sound like a major item, so what's the harm in waiting? But I AM NOT A DOCTOR, just a lay person, so decide for yourself.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  20:37:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little more here. I guess one characteristic of BCC is that they are BASAL cell, namely, below the skin, so the problems sometimes lie under the surface. Don't let me discourage you from finding out if the BCC is completely gone by doing whatever your doctor suggests. Second thought for comment above.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  21:31:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks01, I appreciate the comments. I guess like most people that have BCC I still get a little anxious because it is cancer. While it doesn't typically spread, I do want to make sure I get rid of it completely as it can grow locally. I think I'm gonna just keep hitting it with Cymilium and praying about it as God has helped me through some difficult times in my life. I do think it looks much better in the five or so weeks I've been applying the Cymilium.

And I will continue with the health changes I've made because at 37 years old I feel better now than I have in many years. Plus I'm down to the weight I should be as I've lost 20 pounds total in around 3 months. I guess that is one good thing that has come from my recurrence. Not only am I eating a lot better and taking better vitamins but my wife and two girls are eating a lot better as well.

Edited by - james on 01/29/2009 21:32:22
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trudie

61 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  08:15:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James, thanks so much for the update. Please keep us posted with any other results. I just had a biopsy on a 4mm bcc. I just told my doctor who wanted to rush me into Mohs that I wanted to wait and see. That was when she said "the biopsy could have gotten it all or triggered it." Bizarre or what?? Anyone with thoughts on that statement?
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2009 :  16:58:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
trudie
it has been my experience that once they cut one out more have shown up usually around the same area.
i have had 3 mohs procedures (1.bridge of nose, 2.crease of nose, 3.tip of nose) and a biopsy/removal that the dr was satisfied with the margins that turned suspicious after i had an ak frozen close by the original mohs area on the bridge of my nose.
Anyway a couple of months after i had the 1st mohs i got a red bump on my forehead which the derm's physican assistant (PA) biopsied - i couldn't imagine why she was being so agressive but after reading about multiple recurrances on this and other forums i now understand. It is spoken of with any cancer surgery that it is possible that cutting into it spreads it??? Do a search on Tagamet - Dan posted something on it - when having a cancer surgery it may cut down or prevent spread.
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s nielsen

1 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2009 :  15:10:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi out there. I am a new BCC patient and am trying to heal myself with alternative therapies. Thank all of you for your courage and information concerning this issue. I am frightened but confident I can cure this thibg. I think I need more info though. Has anyone out there heard of Petty Spurge? (Euphorbia peplus)?
Also, I've just started to use topically Hydrogen Peroxide (35%) for the last few days. It is definatley burning the skin on my nose. It is bleeding and swelling. Has anyone out there had any success with this form of treatment?

Thanks, Sylvia

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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2009 :  16:08:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Sylvia, welcome! There are a couple of threads on petty spurge at
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=278
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=206

There are also some threads on hydrogen peroxide for treating skin cancer, although I think most if not all of them use standard 3% rather than 35% strength. The best way to find relevant threads is to use the search button at the top of each forum page.

Hope this helps and we look forward to hearing from you again.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2009 :  08:31:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quick update. The spot looks much better. All I see now is the dent from the biopsy, no redness or anything inside of it. I am going in to see the Moh's surgeon on 3/3 just to get his opinion. He is one of the top doctors in our area and teaches Moh's to other dermatologists so I feel I am in good hands. I really want to be sure that this is gone and my wife still wants me to meet with him. I'll post again after the appointment.
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2009 :  17:46:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This will be my final update on this unless someone has questions. I went in and had Mohs today. The surgeon was very good and answered all of my questions. However, like I expected, he really wasn't interested in the Cymilium package I brought in to show him. He looked at it and said 'huh, I've never heard of that.' That was all he really said. The good news is that after the first pass the margins were clear but he really couldn't tell me if there was no cancer in there prior to his cutting. He took a very small amount of tissue out. At least I know it is completely gone and all I needed was 3 stitches. I believe the Cymilium either completely worked or at least shrank it down so there was almost nothing left to remove. If I get another spot in the future I will try the Cymilium first as I feel the mark from the biopsy really made it hard to tell if the BCC was gone. I guess I can chalk the Cymilium up as a semi successful treatment.
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Debi

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2009 :  16:48:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
James,

Thank you, I had been waiting to learn how your appointment went. I am glad that you, and your wife, can now relax in confidence.

I am particularly grateful for your postings, because your situation parallels mine, though I am not sure if yours was a nodular type BCC. (Mine was/is larger, 5mm, and my biopsy left an apparent partial irregular raised ring around it.)

It is curious how some dermatologists will not cut if they can't see anything and others want to thoroughly rid as soon as possible. I can understand both perspectives.

For everyone here:
I called my own dermatologist this week and told her that I want to cancel (or postpone) my Moh's surgery scheduled later this month and try alternatives. I asked if she could support my exploration by monitoring the appearance of my BCC to ensure I do not become reckless (and to reduce anxiety and feeling alone in the process). She agreed, and said again that seeing me every six months is fine with BCCs, because they grow slowly. She also repeated the party line (none of which I believe) that diet does not affect slow growing cancers, there is no way of preventing future occurrences due to past sun damage, and I should wear sunblock.

When I mentioned that I am using Cymilium (about 11 days now), she had never heard of it. She said I could try Aldara. I asked if it had proven effective on nodular type BCCs. She didn't think so.

I so appreciate the support and exploration here. I will follow up here in the future with how the Cymilium works for me. A few weeks ago I almost posted a fear based message after the d-limonene (orange oil) I was applying created a new, adjacent, larger, minimally ulcerated area (which later went away). I paused and remembered not to spread fear and how significant the mind can be in the healing process. I am finding more, relatively local, human support from various practitioners and healers. (My husband wasn't suitable for this task.) John Carroll gave me visualizations during our telephone appointment that I find helpful to keep my mind away from thinking "cancer". http://www.johnmcarrollhealer.com/index.html

-Debi
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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2009 :  18:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Debi,
The dermatologist did confirm that it was a nodular BCC by looking at my biopsy. I wish you luck in whatever decision you make. One thing I am positive of is that diet does play a role. It really is too bad that doctors don't know much about nutrition and it seems backwards if you really think about it. I mean, everyone knows that fruits and veggies are good for you. But the evidence is out there that they can prevent many diseases as well.

I frequent another site also called Natural News http://www.naturalnews.com There is a lot of information there regarding many health issues and how you can attack them naturally. I learned a lot about vitamins, antioxidants, super greens, and much more there and feel way better since I have changed my diet. I'm at the weight I should be and have more energy than ever before, and that is after putting my 2 and 4 year old girls to bed every nite :)

Like I said before, I believe my BCC was either gone or so small that it took very little to remove it. I do know that after using Cymilium for 2 months and really altering my diet the spot appeared to be gone. I probably would have skipped the Mohs but I know my wife really wanted me to get it so I decided to have the surgery. Next time I see a spot though I'm hitting it with Cymilium first but I don't think I'll be having as many problems in the future.

Dan and others here have really made some excellent contributions and I am ever grateful for that. It really opened my eyes and pushed me to seek out the truth. Before I was resigned to simply following my dermatologists advice of loading up sunscreen every time I went outside while still expecting future problems. Now I know that sunscreen does more harm than good, and if you have a well balanced diet with lots of healthy antioxidants you should be getting sensible sun exposure.

Also Debi, if you go to Natural News do a search for Astaxanthin. It is a super antioxidant that is supposed to be great for your skin. After reading about it there I ordered some and have been taking it for a few months now. It gives me a lot of energy and I'm hoping it will help me avoid sunburns this year like it has for so many others. And please keep posting with your results.

-James

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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2009 :  21:44:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello all.

I'm brand new to his forum. I'm a 45yr old, oddly very healthy white guy with pretty light skin. I got squamous cell cancer on my left tonsil 10 years ago, and have not have a reoccurrence in my throat since.

However, I noticed a domed bump on my left nostril, with would bleed from time to time fron one corner. After a biopsy, sure enough, it was basal cell. The derm Doctor wants to do Mohs, and suggests there would be reconstructiion, such as pulling a flap of skin over from the left of my nose. Ugh. Very ugly healing, for like..9 to 12 months.

Right now, the dome on my left nostil is not very pronounced. In fact it is barely noticable. However, there are 3 pin-like red sores around its edges, which is typical of a BCC lesions, right?

So, in addition to doing a LOT of dietary changes and adding pretty much 90% of the recommended cancer-fighting supplements, I'm exploring alternative topical skin cancer treatments.

So far, I've gathered from this forum the following that Cymilium, Orange Oil and Eggplant are worth a try. I've order 2 packages of Cymilium, some Orange oil and I've got my eggplant/apple-vinegar mixture fermenting in the refrigerator now.

I'm ready to go.

So, does anybody have any suggestions the order of which to try these treatments? Dan?

I'm a little concerned because the dome is not very pronounced right now and I think applying these treatments will most likely cause it to scab. ...but I guess that's a necessary step in the process, right?

Comments?

(BTW, I also have one of those Akaline-Water machines, Tyent 7700. I believe in the whole akaline water thing and I'm actually washing my nose with pH 10+ water a few times a day)

Thank you!!

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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  14:03:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  14:05:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the indentation is actually where the biopsy was done.

The raised area is where I suspect the BBC is.

But is not very pronounced. I don't know if I should start
topical treatments on this area yet. For sure the topical
treatments will inflame the area, right?
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anivoc

646 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  01:20:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Timely post..

I just spoke to a couple people today about super water. One told me that just spraying the 9+ PH water on his skin a few times a day knocked out all his AK's he gave me some to try ..I have plenty to try it on..;(
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trudie

61 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  13:33:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Debi, How is the cymilium coming along?
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  14:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just started a treatment of Cymilium on my nose.

It has swelled up several points around the BCC
area, with white ***** dots

Dan, is that to be expected? I think you said it was.

I'm worried I might be doing more harm than good...:-\

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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  14:10:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, I know a lot about akaline water. Just ask me any
question. I'd like to contribute and be helpful.

one thing: The machine essentially electrically charges the water, by running it between 2 plates (anode and cathode). But, importantly, after the water comes out of the machine, where its
made into "akaline water", say with a pH of 11 (the strongest stuff,
almost at the level of the ammonia in Cymilium), it will only
still "charged" or akaline for about 6-10 hours. Water wants to
be neutral, so it quickly goes back to neutral.

So, don't think you are getting the benefits of akaline water
if it has been held for a half of day or more.

chris
(at chris@homestrong.com)

..can anybody tell me if my nose should swell up now that
I just started Cymmilium treatments?

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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  22:00:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,
I did get some minor swelling and redness at first. It looked worse when I started but then got better over time. My spot looked a lot like your picture but smaller. I would say to stick with it to see what happens and also don't discount the effect that your diet can have on skin cancer. There is a lot of great information here about the vitamins and food you can eat to strengthen your immune system. I think there are many parts to the puzzle that can all have a positive effect on your skin.
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  22:49:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, James.

I saw that you eventually did have Mohs, on your nose, but that it was
only 3 stitches. wow! From I've been reading on Mohs on the nose,
is that since there isn't a lot of loose sking to stretch over the Mohs
hole, that they often can't just stitch it up. Often they have to
pull a flap over it, pulled over from the side of the nose. Ugh. Double Ugh.

I do have a very healthy diet. Lots of vegetables, fruits, low meat, lots
of supplements. However, I'm interested in adding this astaxanthin to
my routine. Can you tell me more about it, and how you feel about its results,
if you've notice anything?

One last thing, have you tried Orange oil?

thanks!
chris

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james

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  07:20:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris,
Yeah I wasn't crazy about the Mohs on my nose but the spot was quite small and I feel that the Cymilium either eliminated the cancer altogether or really shrunk it. He didn't take much the first pass and he got it all. I was just disappointed in the fact that he really couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me if the Cymilium did take care of it.

For me, the astaxanthin gives me more energy and is supposed to be a super antioxidant. It is also supposed to be very good for your skin and help you not burn. I will be able to test this out in a couple of months when it turns to summer here. Here is more info on it:
http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html

This is where I have read more about it and decided to give it a try. I get mine from vitacost here:
http://www.vitacost.com/Nutrex-Hawaii-BioAstin-Supreme

As for the orange oil I haven't tried it but I know that Dan has. Maybe he will give more information.
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  19:58:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks again, James.

Well, I ordered some astaxanthin from VitaCost.com I already get my CoQ10 and Pancreatin from them. I'm open to trying supplements, with my tonsil history, and my BBC on my nose.

If you serious about diet, you should definitely look into an
akaline water machine. I did a lot of research and ending getting a Tyent, though the Life machine was a very close second.

I think I'm seeing some results from my Cymilium treatments, though at this point, I'd be just happy to seeing it stop growing....Its mental calming to know you have some control of cancer.
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dan

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  00:07:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris, sorry I haven't been very attentive lately and I sure appreciate the help of many people keeping this forum going. Your reaction to Cymilium seems similar to my experience, so I think that is good because it worked for me. Regarding the orange oil, you might be better off seeing the result with Cymilium by itself first for a few weeks. But I am a believer in attacking cancer from as many angles as possible and orange oil can be like a left hook out of nowhere after a pummeling from Cymilium.

Astaxanthin sounds amazing. I plan of trying it this week. It appears to have a positive impact on cancers, heart disease,dementia and Alzheimer's, joint pain, eye health, blood sugar, C-Reactive Protein, ulcers, and functions as a natural internal sunscreen that prevents DNA damage and sunburn.

Regarding an energy boost from astaxanthin, it could be due to in part to increasing testosterone. A recent study found that the combination of saw palmetto berry and astaxanthin boosted testosterone and decreased DHT, a perfect combo for men anyway. http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/12 When the Life Extension Foundation first recommended that aging men restore testosterone to youthful levels, a firestorm of criticism erupted. The medical establishment proclaimed that men risked terrible fates by interfering with the natural decline in testosterone secretion. A new book assembled by experts at Harvard University validates testosterone’s anti-aging effects and reveals that men with low testosterone may be at greater risk of prostate cancer. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Harvard-Experts-Recommend-Testosterone-Replacement_01.htm
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homestrong

USA
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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  18:55:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dan! Great to hear from "The Man".

So, my remaining question about Cymilium is how long do I have to leave each application on,
where it is still doing its job? Basically, when I do an application, say mid-morning,
I'm wondering when I can wash my face, washingo off the Cymilium? Its brownish color seems
to disappear after about 2 hours, but a film remains for many hours after.
Is it still working afer 3 hours?

just FYI, I'm applying before I go to bed and twice during the day right now, and
taking every 4th day off completely, to give the area a chance to heal. Does that
sound reasonable to thoee with Cymilium success?

Regarding Orange Oil, I'll take your advice, Dan, and save it till say the 8th week.

BTW, I also believe in testosterone boasting for us over-40's guys. (I think I might just
require it coz my GF is 24 and full of energy). I started taking astaxathin today,
and I'm hopeful - as always.

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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2009 :  12:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rocco, or anyone else.

I'm also considering adding Rocco's combo mixture to my
treatments, where he combines 1/2 tablet of IP6+inositol
with some DMSO.

Where can I reliably get some DSMO online? There are
so many places, but I'd like to get some product that
people have liked.

thanks!
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dan

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Posted - 04/12/2009 :  01:32:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not tried them but I think the best place to get DMSO is at the Life Extension Foundation http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item03067/DMSO-dimethylsulfoxide.html Because DMSO is so effective at penetrating the skin and also because DMSO is a great a carrier for other chemicals, it pays to be very careful about your source of supply to avoid contaminants. I can't imagine the LEF folks would sell a questionable DMSO product.
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homestrong

USA
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Posted - 04/12/2009 :  13:07:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dan! And, Happy Easter!!

just fyi, turns out www.lef.org is out of stock on this particular DMSO gel.
However, I found the exact same product here, for a cheaper price
(if you don't have a LEF membership, that is)

http://www.herbalremedies.com/dmso-gel.html

just fyi...

-chris

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Debi

USA
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Posted - 04/18/2009 :  23:58:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In appreciation of the support offered here, (esp. by trudie, james, jeni, janagain, tom, dan and thanks O1) I want to offer a quick check in before leaving today for a silent retreat in the next couple weeks.

I'm still using cymilium, visualizations, and taking supplements with a restrictive diet (just legumes, veggies, fruit, and non-gluten grains).

In my exploration of my internal climate that supports BCC, my bloodwork revealed a Vitamin D deficiency. Not surprisingly, my new alternative doc gave me Vit. D a month beforehand (from muscle testing evaluation). He also ran lab work (saliva, urine, etc.) revealing low adrenals, candida, small intestine minor colitis. I suspected mercury, but was okay there.

The raised area around the biopsy scar still exists, though I am hopeful it is healing. When I have something more to report, I will probably post under my original thread "mild vs agressive", as I am curious about pairs of opposites in this process that confuse me.

In gratitude,
Debi
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