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bzmazu

Belize
5 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2008 :  23:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have completely removed some serious Actinic Keratosis from face, nose, forehead,neck and scalp by applying virgin coconut oil daily for a month. I had watched it progressively getting worse over the years and I became afraid. In my research I came across Dr.Simoncini who says cancer is a fungus... and I knew coconut oil is a wonderful fungicide... so I thought...give it a try. When I first applied it I was alarmed, I thought I was treating half a dozen serious lesions, but the oil uncovered dozens of tiny new spots that were not so easily visible...the spots turned red and burned...but, the redness started to go away quickly and I knew it was working...so I kept up the treatment and I saw it all disappear...the largest lesions last. Now I apply coconut oil several times a week just to keep my skin looking good and to protect my face from the sun...wonderful stuff, coconut oil!

dreamgardens91

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2009 :  01:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi bzmazu-good luck and thanks for the tip-I had tried to answer unsuccessfully a few times to thank you-everyone here is so nice! I am wishing you and all a very wonderful and healing Merry New Year and I am now slathered in coconut oil and going to buy an eggplant ASAP!
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dan

551 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2009 :  01:45:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bzmazu, this is a fantastic result! I think most people would have given up when coconut oil appeared to make things worse. I am glad you stuck with it. I agree that fungus infections seem to instigate AKs which can turn into skin cancers and that may explain why coconut oil works. Thanks!
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2009 :  17:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have noticed that using extra virgin coconut oil will expose all kinds of patchy red spots. The thing is that when I have used it for a few days and seen the spots getting worse, I quit using it.

For anyone who has used it, do the red patches calm down and turn normal after a while? My concern was that it was actually making the AK's more prominent and growing.

So any info from anyone with experience is appreciated. Thanks.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2009 :  21:04:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used the extra virgin coconut oil and it zapped a bleeding thingy that popped up on my cheek in 2 weeks. I notice when i use it on my face that sometimes i get red dots (i was told that this happens with Aldara and its a sign the immune system is attacking the cancer) however the red dots don't always seem to be nearby the spots. I got some virgin coconut oil last time and have been using that now - i did notice that i had some patchy red spots that came and they have pretty much gone after about 2 mos of using it fairly regularly at least 1x/day. I have been using it on a spot on my cheek and i think it is starting to dry up and get smaller but it's very slow. I have some ak's small white dot type on my nose that are not gone but not so scaley feeling. I was putting baking soda paste(water, baking soda and a little coconut oil on top of area with coconut oil on it) on them but only for about 2 weeks - one spot started to get raw and then healed as i continued to put coconut oil on at nite - need to go back to that. Sometimes it's hard to have time to mess with all this!!!! it seems to me like it does do something. It calmed down another ak like thing on my hand - there seems to be something to it i think. let me know if you try it again what happens. Thanks!
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  10:25:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RidgebackDogs

I used the extra virgin coconut oil and it zapped a bleeding thingy that popped up on my cheek in 2 weeks. I notice when i use it on my face that sometimes i get red dots (i was told that this happens with Aldara and its a sign the immune system is attacking the cancer) however the red dots don't always seem to be nearby the spots. I got some virgin coconut oil last time and have been using that now - i did notice that i had some patchy red spots that came and they have pretty much gone after about 2 mos of using it fairly regularly at least 1x/day. I have been using it on a spot on my cheek and i think it is starting to dry up and get smaller but it's very slow. I have some ak's small white dot type on my nose that are not gone but not so scaley feeling. I was putting baking soda paste(water, baking soda and a little coconut oil on top of area with coconut oil on it) on them but only for about 2 weeks - one spot started to get raw and then healed as i continued to put coconut oil on at nite - need to go back to that. Sometimes it's hard to have time to mess with all this!!!! it seems to me like it does do something. It calmed down another ak like thing on my hand - there seems to be something to it i think. let me know if you try it again what happens. Thanks!




This is good info because the extra virgin coconut oil does the same thing on my face. For example my forehead and cheeks can look fine, and after about 5 days of the coconut oil I get red ak looking things all over my face. So I never knew if it was making it worse, or better. Always when I stop using it the ak spots go away.

I think I'll pick a spot and try a long term experiment and see what happens.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  21:28:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad that helped - i was glad the doc told me that about the aldara - i haven't used it after reading up on it on the web but it was nice that he mentioned the red dots with aldara use because when i saw those after starting to use the coconut oil i think that my immune system is going after these areas.
let us know how it goes!
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bzmazu

Belize
5 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2009 :  07:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep on with the coconut oil. The redness is a sign that it is working...it will go away...this used by itself will get rid of the Keratosis...keep it simple or you'll never figure out what works for you. This relates to Keratosis, which may lead to cancer...don't know about other conditions.
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bzmazu

Belize
5 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2009 :  08:05:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SoFl

I have noticed that using extra virgin coconut oil will expose all kinds of patchy red spots. The thing is that when I have used it for a few days and seen the spots getting worse, I quit using it.

For anyone who has used it, do the red patches calm down and turn normal after a while? My concern was that it was actually making the AK's more prominent and growing.

So any info from anyone with experience is appreciated. Thanks.



Re-read my post. "A few days"??...the redness means it is working...
You won't find anyone with a more positive experience.....
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bzmazu

Belize
5 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2009 :  08:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RidgebackDogs

I used the extra virgin coconut oil and it zapped a bleeding thingy that popped up on my cheek in 2 weeks. I notice when i use it on my face that sometimes i get red dots (i was told that this happens with Aldara and its a sign the immune system is attacking the cancer) however the red dots don't always seem to be nearby the spots. I got some virgin coconut oil last time and have been using that now - i did notice that i had some patchy red spots that came and they have pretty much gone after about 2 mos of using it fairly regularly at least 1x/day. I have been using it on a spot on my cheek and i think it is starting to dry up and get smaller but it's very slow. I have some ak's small white dot type on my nose that are not gone but not so scaley feeling. I was putting baking soda paste(water, baking soda and a little coconut oil on top of area with coconut oil on it) on them but only for about 2 weeks - one spot started to get raw and then healed as i continued to put coconut oil on at nite - need to go back to that. Sometimes it's hard to have time to mess with all this!!!! it seems to me like it does do something. It calmed down another ak like thing on my hand - there seems to be something to it i think. let me know if you try it again what happens. Thanks!



Re-read my post...its quite simple...apply every night and keep at it till the keratosis is gone...patience...there is nothing to "mess" with...I have no need to "try it again"...re-read my post.
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2009 :  18:48:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bzmazu - i see it took a month for your ak to go did that include the largest one?
I have been putting the coconut oil on some on my nose for 2 mos now and they are less scaley but still there. i do like the coconut oil.

Edited by - RidgebackDogs on 01/18/2009 18:51:35
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bzmazu

Belize
5 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2009 :  20:07:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, that included largest ones, which were quite large, open, weeping and itchy sores at the time...sometimes scaley. Coconut oil is very interesting...many benefits...research some sites. I would say stick with it...must be virgin coconut oil...not hydrogenated.
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jbprof

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2009 :  21:34:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After a second 3 week round of concentrated Vitamin C solution on a BCC located on the top of my shoulder, I began a 2x a day extra Virgin Coconut Oil treatment on the area. I just finished a four day reprieve after 3 straight weeks of the coconut oil. In this 4 day interim, I applied a homemade mixture of an organic moisturizer and Grean Tea extract. Started back on the coconut oil yesterday.

Here's the thing. I am really struggling with the extreme dryness that sets in after using the CO for several days. Fortunately, the area is covered by clothing... so I couldn't care less about red patches or the appearance of inflammation. I just can't handle the discomfort of the dryness it creates. It feels worse than severe winter itch/cracking I get during prolonged exposure to high-elevation zero humidity climates. It is messing with my sleep big time and making it hard to fully relax at any point in the day.

My expectation of the CO was that it would actually be moisturizing. On the contrary, it seems to do the exact opposite despite other accounts of CO's moisturizing properties. During my initial 3 week stint with it, I applied all over my entire upper back, shoulders and upper chest since I figured it may provide benefits to areas I don't have any visible problems yet.

Anyone else experience this type of discomfort that looked and felt like severe winter dryness/cracking? If so, what can I do to deal with it?
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RidgebackDogs

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2009 :  22:43:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi jbprof!
Actually no - i did not have a dryness problem although sometimes to cut down on the greasiness of the CO i added some purified water to it before putting it on and used a regular moisturizer during the day as my hair gets in the CO and then gets in my eyes and i get some CO in my eyes which is irritating.
i get this on my hands in the winter and use an aloe gel (Aloe Life skin gel) followed by Derma E Orange Blossom Age Defying Hand & Body Lotion which seems to do about the best for me, don't know if it will work for you. Hopes this helps!
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Brigid

64 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2010 :  19:30:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chemical residues in the oil can cause dryness, so an organic coconut oil might help with that, though it's more expensive. Has anyone had success using it for full-blown basal cell and squamous cell tumors rather than AK's? I wonder how deep it penetrates, and have tried using it with DMSO, which is supposed to be a penetrating carrier. The DMSO stung but didn't seem to do much other than causing some red spots to appear, which were probably cancer areas. Tried it for a couple of weeks, maybe not long enough.
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Brad

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2010 :  21:20:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coconut oil is a great necessity for treating Actinic Keratosis but try taking the lower listed four ingredients. Origionally found on
"Tried the rest now try the best" forum by ENVISAGE on this board.

My wife (45) has a case of actinic keratosis which is really scary . Flakey red circles, dark splotches,flakies, horned crusties you name it. Mostly on her arms / hands, slight on face ( cheeks ) as well and poor on her under neck area as well.
For many years: I have tried them all as well, I even make her own custom skin cream..
Let's see: Eggplant, orange oil, Juniper oil, Expensive Bio-Skin Treatment ( nothing ), baking soda, vinegar, heat/cold treatments, epsom salts, Hemp oil (1/2oz good stuf), magnesium oil, homeopathy combos, "cure pills"from ?sweeden?,On and On.
Over time we have learned to control it's progression with home made skin creams with "good" ingredients, but have never seen a rapid reversal... Until Now!
Two weeks taking the combo and it is simply amazing. Not gone by a long shot but every day I see less and less circles, dark spots, no new horns .. This combo really works. Large areas of " normal skin " appearing.. Just the best ! Not irritating to "hidden ones".
In the end, it may not totally rid her of her problem skin but this is the best I have yet found.
I will keep you all updated.

Note: I also add some CoQ10 to her hand cream ( enough to make it pink and she has always used coconut oil internally ( tblsp / day ) and topically in her skin cream.

Twice per day : Acetl L-Carnitine 1000 MG, Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 MG, Co-Q10 200 MG, 1000 IU Vit E Mixed natural. AM and PM

Using puritan pride brand : cheap and good enough quality

Funny Note : I ( Brad ) have good sun tolerance skin and if I take her combo before bed it keeps me up like caffine, For her it makes her sleep better .. I think she absorbs the needed nutrients and for me it's overload -Go figure !

Try this it works !!! Thanks ENVISAGE --- BIG TIME !!
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marsha

USA
122 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2010 :  10:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brad, The mysterious ENVISAGE strikes again. I was wondering why you changed the amounts?
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randolph

USA
27 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2010 :  18:08:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI MARSHA....Like you, I am puzzled as well due to the changes. After reading this again, I think possibly that Brad is referring to some hand cream he made up utilizing the 3 basic Envisage ingredients, then added Vit-E, etc. I don't know if this is the case or not. Perhaps he will get back on this and clarify. For now I'm sticking with the original Envisage recommedation of the 3-part system of 500/500/100.
Be well,
Randolph
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Brigid

64 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2010 :  01:00:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used organic coconut oil on a bunch of BCCs, an SCC, AKs and a scaly spot over my eyebrow that my derm said "she wasn't worried about". The spot kept disappearing and coming back. I applied the oil about 4 times a day on all these spots daily for 6 weeks. The one above the eyebrow completely disappeared and hasn't come back and that was several months ago. Yea!! All the spots turned red, but none of the others disappeared (including several AKs and a long-term itchy fungal streak along my nose). The coconut oil did stop the itching on that during the 6 weeks. The eyebrow spot is "newer" than the others. From now on I will treat any new spot immediately. My experience is that the longer I wait, the harder it is to get off.
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tketz

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  17:08:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randolph

HI MARSHA....Like you, I am puzzled as well due to the changes. After reading this again, I think possibly that Brad is referring to some hand cream he made up utilizing the 3 basic Envisage ingredients, then added Vit-E, etc. I don't know if this is the case or not. Perhaps he will get back on this and clarify. For now I'm sticking with the original Envisage recommedation of the 3-part system of 500/500/100.
Be well,
Randolph

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tketz

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  17:12:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randolph

HI MARSHA....Like you, I am puzzled as well due to the changes. After reading this again, I think possibly that Brad is referring to some hand cream he made up utilizing the 3 basic Envisage ingredients, then added Vit-E, etc. I don't know if this is the case or not. Perhaps he will get back on this and clarify. For now I'm sticking with the original Envisage recommedation of the 3-part system of 500/500/100.
Be well,
Randolph



Can you tell me what the formula is? I have AK's all over my face and am trying different remedies.
Thanks, Tony
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spettro

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2012 :  10:25:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great post about the coconut oil. Quick question for anyone that may know the answer. After you apply the oil, does it absorb quickly into the skin? My concern is that it may wipe off while tossing/turning during sleep.
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Janet

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2012 :  09:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a spot on the side of my nose that I've been messing with for 2 yrs! I tried vitc and h202 but never for more than the first scab because of my job. Finally since I don't have insurance the dermatologist said he thought it was ak didn't warrant a biopsy because i asked him for a prescription for Carac. Turns out that was almost $400 dollars so I got Effudex (which I'd never use again over carac) twice a day for 3wks. I think there's a chance it might have been bcc because the spot never fully healed and then bled again 2mos later and I couldn't get an appt for over a month. So I applied coconut oil and melatonin powder (crushed a 3mg tab)and it immediately started to look better. In 10 days it was not tender anymore. It is now about 18 days and the root where it was bleeding from is almost undiscernable but I still have a 1cm spot of pinker skin where I treated with effudex. More people need to try this to see if it is really as great as it seems! For me, I will keep posting if the spot continues to heal.
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Emc

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2013 :  17:16:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am new to this forum and am interested in trying the formula that several people have mentioned. The acetl L carnitine, alpha lipoic acid, COQ-10 and Vitamin E. I have many AKs on my arms , chest and hands. Can anyone give me the correct dosages? I believe Envisage was the original poster. Thanks.
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dan

551 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2013 :  23:48:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Emc,

Envisage suggested L-Carnitine 500mg; Alpha Lipoic Acid 500mg; CoQ10 100mg daily either with/after dinner in http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=533

Brad suggested Twice per day : Acetl L-Carnitine 1000 MG, Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 MG, Co-Q10 200 MG, 1000 IU Vit E Mixed natural, AM and PM in this thread.

The dosages are not settled. These are just people trying things and reporting results.
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Emc

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2013 :  00:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dan. I am going to try the once daily. I am also going to try the coconut oil mixed with melatonin on my arms and chest. I too have used effudex and don't want to deal with always covering up my arms. Not to mention the ugly sores that result. So far, I am liking the coconut oil, only started three days ago. Will let you know what works for me.

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Emc

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2013 :  22:13:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have now been using organic extra virgin coconut oil twice a day for just over a month and I am definitely seeing results. The AK's are drying up and peeling away. I add melatonin at night blended with the CO. I am going to continue doing this, since besides effudex it has been the only effective treatment I have seen work. And I haven't gotten the sores I always get with effudex.
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Nyquest4@aol.com

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2013 :  09:44:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an AK on my cheek and I have had it frozen off at the doctors office, and it came back. I have also applied a TCA 30%, and it came back! I've had this spot for 5 years or so...I am trying coconut oil (4days in to it) now and it's itchy and pink. Does that mean it is working, should I keep trying it?
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jelizholt

1 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2013 :  19:19:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an AK on my forehead according to my dermotologist, she gave me script for Effudx cream, which I did not pick up from the RX or use. So I have been using organic virgin coconut oil, unrefined. I have been using it for about 4 days and the spot is fading away. I hope to see if it goes away completly and does not return. In the past this spot wouid show up every 1-2 mos and then go away on its own but then come back. I do have a history of BCC, which was removed with MOHS on my forehead. I will update what happend with the coconut oil treatment
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Emc

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2013 :  19:36:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would encourage people to keep using the coconut oil. I am using it on my arms and shoulders and a few spots on my upper legs. I was noticing that my skin feels dry and itchy, so I am using a moisturizer like cetaphyl after applying the CO. That helps. It is not a quick fix, but I think it is helping. The ones on my legs are starting to peel. I take that to mean it is working. I had one spot on my upper arm peel off completely and so far it has not come back.
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