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dan

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Posted - 05/30/2013 :  23:03:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi susan7000, yes there is a spam control to prevent email but you need just 1 post so now you should be ok.
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susan7000

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Posted - 08/29/2014 :  02:48:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Swanrose

Hi All, Does anyone post on this thread anymore? How is everyone doing with their treatment?


Swanrose-
Did you get any results with trying the Amla Extract?
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Swanrose

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2014 :  12:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Susan,

I've had limited results with everything I've tried, which has been Amla Extract, Baking Soda paste, Salt paste, and combinations of the 3. I make the pastes using Hydrogen Peroxide, and dab H2O2 on the lesions frequently when I don't have a paste working. I've also used vinegar and lemon, straight and in a paste.

I have to say the area is much smaller, and a lot of what I thought was scarring has gone away, but there is still too much left. I've gotten to the point several times where I have the "craters", and think it must be all gone, only to have it start back up again a few months later.

I did have this for 6 years before it was correctly diagnosed, so I figure it might take longer than if I'd started in on it immediately when it first happened. I'm considering trying Iodine or an Herbal Drawing Salve to see if that will take care of it. I've not been able to try some of what's been recommended on this board because of allergies.

How about you? How are you coming along with yours?
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camiloz

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/29/2014 :  15:22:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I had exactly the same results as Swanrose. After doing Vitamin C for two months I thought I'm finally free and it was looking very good, but after a month or two it was back again. I even tried Curaderm BEC5 but I think now it got even bigger.

Regards

Edited by - camiloz on 08/29/2014 15:23:44
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susanh

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Posted - 08/30/2014 :  13:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies on your progress swanrose and camiloz.

I did learn on another thread within topicalinfo that Fernandoe's book was about hydrogen peroxide that he and his wife used. He did not give the name of his book that may have given more detail about his procedure.

Mine is close to my eye so I am a little concerned about using hydrogen peroxide as everything I apply seems to have capillary action and bothers my eyes.

I am currently using the john r. christopher product called black ointment. This is not black salve. I put it on at night and when I wake up in the morning my vision is very, very blurry. It takes all day for my vision to return to normal.

This product smells like deer jerky in a smoker. When you put it on it's strong. I do not like the smell. I first only used this at night and I am now applying a thinner coat than I did at first. To get it off I use coconut oil rubbed into it and then tissue it off. It's only been a week of use so far. Mostly emollient imho to the top surface. The test I give it is to eat a bowl of spinach. Within minutes I can feel that burn/itch return and even a throbbing. I avoid spinach unless I want the test because I think it makes it grow.

The other thing I did was use apple cider vinegar to my face to bring up any hidden spots which I think it did so I am putting ointment there now also.

-susanh/susan7000 I have two diff names...same person. I started reading 3 years ago and then forgot my id and password and not being tech smart I just reupped to get in. Now I know better lol.




Edited by - susanh on 09/01/2014 09:23:46
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susanh

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Posted - 08/30/2014 :  13:21:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also wanted to cut and paste this conversation between anivoc and mrosen as it's buried in the petty spurge thread and I sure would have liked to know sooner. If you are going to pay for a biopsy you should be informed as to which one specifically you have.

here it is:

Posted - 05/04/2013 : 12:38:13 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
Mrosen,

You bring up a VERY overlooked and important topic....There are many different types of basal cell carcinoma...and that is scary..

I went into this thinking there were three types of skin cancer. This was from my dermatologist years ago...Basal, Squamous and Melanoma with Basal being the least likely to be deadly..Well recently I have been learning there are several different types of Basal Cell Carcinoma...and that probably holds true for Squamous and Melanoma..

After reading your post I did a quick google and came up with this on Basal cell ... There are 12 different types! Yikes... No wonder some of the things that work for some people don't work for others...I have never had a biopsy that detailed what type of basal cell carcinoma I had...I am curious to see what your lab report comes back with...

Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Typically found on the head, neck, and torso basal-cell carcinomas, small, solid elevations of the skin that grow into eroding, crusting, and bleeding craters, are considered malignant diseases because they can cause significant destruction of affected body parts, especially nerves, disfigurement, and invade surrounding tissues, however, basal-cell carcinomas rarely metastasize or kill the patient, and fair-skinned people with a family history of the disease are at a much higher risk for contracting basal-cell carcinoma than non-fair-skinned people are.

Aberrant Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Basal-cell carcinoma can be divided into twelve types including Aberrant basal-cell carcinoma, a cutaneous condition that generally occurs in the axilla, armpits, nipples, scrotum, vulva, and perineum, and may lack any apparant carcinogenic factors.

Nodular Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Nodular basal-cell carcinoma, the Classic example of the disease, is a cutaneous condition that occurs most commonly on the head, neck, and other sun-exposed body areas.

Cystic Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Cystic basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with dome-shaped, blue-gray cystic nodules.

Pore-Like Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Pore-like basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with carcinomas that look like enlarged pores.

Polypoid Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Polypoid basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with polyp-like structures generally found on the head or neck.

Cicatrical Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Cicatrical basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition that is aggressive with unique histologic and clinical appearances.

Fibroepithelioma of Pinkus:

Fibroepithelioma of Pinkus is a cutaneous condition commonly found on the patient's lower back.

Infiltrative Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Infiltrative basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with aggressive deep infiltration of tissues.

Rodent Ulcer:

Also known as Jacobi's Ulcer this nodular basal-cell carcinoma is characterized by central necrosis.

Micronodular Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Micronodular basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with micronodular growth patterns.

Pigmented Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Pigmented basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with increased melanization.

Superficial Basal-Cell Carcinoma:

Superficial basal-cell carcinoma is a cutaneous condition with erythematous red patches that commonly occurs on the patient's trunk.

Basal-Cell Carcinoma Groups:

Basal-cell carcinomas can be subdivided into three main groups including Infiltrative Basal-Cell Carcinomas that contain micronodular and morphea forms of the disease, Superficial Basal-Cell Carcinomas that are the only forms of the disease effectively treated with topical chemotherapies, and Nodular Basal-Cell Carcinomas that cover all other forms of the disease and may have multiple morphologic features of many variants of basal-cell carcinomas in the same tumor.

Causes:

Typically presenting as a shiny, pearly nodule, a red patch, thickened skin, or scar tissue basal-cell carcinoma is caused by mutations in the cell's DNA that leads to the formation of molecular lesions known as thymine or cytosine dimers that make skin cells reproduce rapidly and continue growing, instead of being pushed to the surface of the skin by newly formed skin cells, and dying like they normally would. Other possible causes of basal-cell carcinoma include ultraviolet radiation from sunlight or tanning beds, commercial tanning lamps, exposure to various toxic substances, genetic mutations in the protein patched homolog-one gene that inhibits the hedgehog signaling pathway from providing information to embryotic cells on how to properly develop, and Smoothened-G protein-coupled receptor genes that help prevent abnormalities of physiological developments. Additionally, radiation therapy treatments and immune suppression therapies may also cause the disease.

Symptoms:

The symptoms of basal-cell carcinoma may include such things as sores that do not heal or repeatedly bleed, waxy white bumps with blood vessels in or around them, a reddish patch that may itch, hurt, crust, or have no discomfort at all, a smooth elevated growth with a rolled border and an indented center, a pearly, transluscent, red, pink, white, black, brown, or tan nodule, and yellow, white, or waxy scar-like areas on the skin that have poorly defined borders.

Diagnosis:

Basal-cell carcinomas may be diagnosed through such means as a family history of the disease, physical examinations, and skin biopsies performed under local anesthesia.

Treatment Options:

Based on the location of the tumor, the size of the tumor, the age of the patient, and other contributing factors, cryosurgery with a temperature probe and cryotherapy instruments that typically produce a very successful cure rate, repeated electrodesiccation and curettage that may include up to five cycles, photodynamic therapy with the application of photosensitizers such as methyl aminolevulinate, immunotherapy using euphorbia peplus, or imiquimod cream, for the treatment of superficial basal-cell carcinomas, radiation therapy to eradicate the disease through internal brachytherapy or radiotherapy, chemotherapy with such medications as 5-flurouracil, microscopically-controlled Mohs surgery that produces up to a 99 percent cure rate of primary basal-cell carcinomas, Johns surgery that may remove several layers of skin until there are no signs of the cancer left, and surgeries with frozen section histologies, or parrafin-implanted fixed tissue pathologies, are available treatment options for basal-cell carcinomas.

Risk Factors:

Common risk factors for basal-cell carcinomas include long term daily exposure to the sun, having had several severe sunburns early in life, family members with a history of the disease, having many moles on the patient's body, overexposure to x-rays or radiation, red or blonde hair, freckled skin, light-colored skin, and gray, green, or blue eyes.

Prognosis:

The progosis for basal-cell carcinoma typically depends on how early the disease was diagnosed, and patients with the ailment should receive regularly scheduled check-ups, and perform monthly self-examinations, to ensure the cancer has not returned.

Sources:

This Article was compiled from several websites that provide much more information about basal-cell carcinoma including:

www.cancercenter.com/basal-cell-carcinoma/basal-cell-carcinoma-symptoms.cfm" target="_blank">www.cancercenter.com/basal-cell-carcinoma/basal-cell-carcinoma-symptoms.cfm" target="_blank">http://.www.cancercenter.com/basal-cell-carcinoma/basal-cell-carcinoma-symptoms.cfm
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/basal-cell-carcinoma/DS00925/DSECTION=causes
http://www.healthscout.com/ency/1/199/main.html
http://www.basalcellmohs.com/basal_cell_3.html
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medicineplus/article/000824.htm

Edited by - susanh on 09/01/2014 09:29:12
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susanh

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Posted - 01/26/2015 :  21:27:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was applying vic c ascorbate solution to my nose generously several times a day and just before bed. On the 3rd night I awoke during the middle of the night with screaming ears. I sat up and wiggled my head side to side to see if the screaming went away and it did not. I stopped the topical c that day. It's now a couple of weeks later and both ears are still screaming. In the day I ignore it but at night when everything is quiet it's really loud! I googled vitamin c and tinnitus and sure enough a certain percentage of people are sensitive to vit c and it will cause tinnitus.
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Dougrun

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Posted - 05/13/2015 :  19:00:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do get a little ringing in my ears when i take vit c but nothing distracting. it subsides with hydration
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