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thanks01

USA
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Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:23:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks01 - txhouston gave us a lot of info on dandelion treatment, but it was posted under Petty Spurge, which txhouston was also interested in. I am moving all the posts from txhouston to a new thread, in case anyone wants to study dandelion.

txhouston:
Posted - 06/12/2010 : 20:10:07 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
I am in the process of obtaining some Petty Spurge seeds. It will be 6-8 weeks until I have grown plants it seems.

I was reading that Dandelion also works against warts as Petty Spurge was used in Europe. So today I tried some Dandelion on my BCC. Only 4 hours later I see an immediate change in the look of the BCC. I did not take a picture before the treatment but just took one. One spot has changed from red to a brown color and is starting a scab. It is spot that was burned with nitrogen by a dermatologist and had started to come back.

I recognize that I am experimenting with myself. I reason with all the dandelions that have been handled by children over the years that I cannot do too much damage.

Edited by - thanks01 on 06/17/2010 18:44:34

thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Grace2go:

How did you use the dandelion? Did you apply the sap from the stem, make a tea from stems, or something else?

Dandelion flower tops are good sauteed, and some people add the stems too. Or use the stems in salad, or boil them for tea. They have many good benefits, and it would be great if topical use for skin cancer is one of them.

Please keep us updated on your progress!
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:31:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston:

This morning the two I treated are both very dark, it is about 16 hours after first application. I believe this is blood. I did have a slight feeling in each of these last night almost a very very very slight burning sensation.

I applied the latex topically. I plucked a flower. Then I waited a bit for the sap to form atop the stem. Pluck the stem which is now a convenient applicator. The second applicator can be plucked from the same stem once it milks over.

I am not sure that I need to make a second application of the latex. Although I probably will.

I would guess from this experiment that there may be a large number of plants that will stop these cancers.

I am also thinking that there may be more to this than simply a topical application. In the past people at all sorts of plants as boiled or unboiled greens. Today we eat comparatively fewer species of plans, most only ones that taste great. Many plants were once or twice boiled with the water thrown out in between to remove poisons. It is possible that remaining poisons, or poisons from eating small amounts of raw greens, had some therapeutic effect. That is possibly eating small doses of compounds that vigorously destroy cancer cells is a way for nature to keep cancer in check within humans.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:34:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston:

I would caution that with advanced cancers it would seem if a person were to eat some of these compounds that any reaction could be violent as many many cells were destroyed within hours in my test. It could also cause internal bleeding as it appears tumor cells were destroyed leaving blood. While overall this would be a good thing it may create shock.

I would think that a person should only try consumption to stop advanced cancers under the overall supervision of a doctor, possibly in a medical setting (hospital). I would also suggest some advance evaluations in the area of blood clotting for individual patients may be warranted. If it works as fast as it did for me an overnight stay would be more than adequate after eating a dandelion salad.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:38:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Grace2go:

This website has some great info about benefits of dandelion:

http://www.leaflady.org/health_benefits_of_dandelions.htm

Here are a couple of excerpts from there about dandelion benefits:
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"In 1979 a Japanese patent was filed for a freeze-dried warm water extract of dandelion root for anti-tumor use. It was found that administration of the extract markedly inhibited growth of particular carcinoma cells within one week after treatment;"

Another excerpt:

"There are many testimonials from those who have benefited from the use of dandelions in the treatment of what ailed them.

Robert Stickle, an internationally famous architect, was diagnosed as having a malignant melanoma 21 years ago, and was given, after radical surgery had not halted its spread, less than 2 years to live. He said, in a letter to Jeff Zullo, president of the Society for the Promotion of Dandelions, (June 23, 1986):

" I went on a search for the answer to my mortal problem, and [discovered] that perhaps it was a nutritional dilemma.... To me, cancer is primarily a liver failure manifestation. {Italians are very concerned about problems of the 'fegato']. [I discovered that] the cancer rate in native Italians is very low among the farming population (paesanos). When they get affluent and move to the city, its the same as the rest of civilized man. Paesanos eat dandelions, make brew from the roots, and are healthy, often living to over 100 years."

He states that he began eating dandelion salad every day, and his improvement confounded the doctors. When he wrote the letter in 1986, 18 years had passed and there had been no recurrence of the melanoma."
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I've used dandelion in the past for it's diuretic benefit, but it was several years ago. My grandmother used to cook the flower tops, and use the stems in salad or steep in hot water for tea. I never liked the taste of the greens, but the benefits outweigh the aversion to taste.


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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  18:42:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 : 08:59:37 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
After my experience with this and my recent study of nutrition that it is possible the 'cure' for cancer is one of too few natural 'poisons'. However this theory will not gain much research interest as there is little money to be made from recommending people to eat some sprigs of dandelion once diagnosed with breast cancer. Far more profitable to have $500,000 bills to pay.
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txhouston

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2010 : 10:06:03 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
I am about 17 hours into this treatment. The 'scab' came off of one of these and I have a pink area. I think what has happened is that the latex attacked the topmost layers. I am not sure in this particular one the latex penetrated significantly down. It is the BCC that was prior burned off. So I am definitely going to apply more dandelion to this area.

It does seem the penetration was only superficial. So a reasonable concern is whether this is any type of cure or whether it is simply causing the tumor cells to bleed. If it is destroying tumor cells topically this would not be a bad thing but would do little to arrest spread.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 : 16:18:27 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
I am about 5 hours after the second application. So far I do not see evidence of dried blood. The scab this time is about the color of a dark freckle. Prior application the scab turned dark after first turning this dark freckle color.

I did deviate from protocol. Dandelions are difficult to find in Houston this time of year. I therefore put on some other latex weed substances, thistle and another common weed that looks like lettuce on a pole but has prickly spines on the end of the leaf. After the application of these other plants I located a source of supply for dandelions that is close to home so I can simply walk there every day and treat the BCC.

I rationalize that the scab that is forming, when not dark, is dead cells. Since these plant secretions do not cause this effect on healthy skin these must be attacking the BCC.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 : 22:18:15 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
Now about 12 hours from second application. The primary location has a reddish brown color. It is not as dark as it was at equivalent time yesterday. The scab is is continuous and no flaking of skin like that I noticed when using Dr. prescribed pharmaceutical product on my lip. I am going to sleep and will report again after the AM.

I am still encouraged that some adverse reaction with the bad cells is going on. What I fear is that this reaction is not sufficiently aggressive to root out the cancer.
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txhouston

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 : 13:50:11 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
It has been three days now since first application. I just removed the second scab after shower.

The last two days I have been applying only dandelion. So at this writing the primary plant being used is dandelion.

I have not noticed any further bleeding after the first day.

It does seem that progress is being made. There is much less redness in the sites redness has shrunk to about 1/3 the diameter of the original redness. I can only think that the cancer is being disipated. There is not however a large amount of tissue that is flaking off. Much less in comparison to the area on my lip where I used chemotherapy to remove sun damage skin. so it seems that possibly there is less violent reaction than that reported with Petty Spurge. Who knows less violent reaction may indicate less violent side effects, but that is pure speculation.

I can't help but notice that this is helping with visible improvement after three days application. This rate of improvement is much faster than the chemotherapy which took a month to run it's course.

I am going to keep applying the dandelion until which time the redness dissipates. I still have petty spurge coming I intend to grow it and use it in these sites to see if the petty spurge 'finds' anything that the dandelion does not.

The latex is kinda sticky so I guess the latex on the surface blocks access of the new dandelion latex to the underlying cells. So I hope the new application will have a more significant reaction than I got earlier today.
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Grace2Go

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 : 18:02:53 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks for the regular updates txhouston!

Usually dandelions are everywhere and aren't easy to get rid of, considered to be one of the peskiest weeds. Wouldn't you know it, that now that dandelions are very possibly a viable treatment for my aggravating BCC I can't find a single one!

I'm going on a trip to the midwest next week, and I think this is dandelion season there, so I'll try the sap while I'm there.

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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2010 :  19:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has been 5 days since first application. One site has completely disappeared no scab just turned this black color which was washed off the surface. Then it shrunk away to nothing. Originally the site was red about the size of a pimple with some white stuff inside. It was not a pimple.

Second site shows no pink showed very low activity at last application. It is the site that was burned previously by the dermatologist.

Third site is black today but it is noticabley smaller in size. The third site was a new BCC that was bleeding, so I was going to have to go in and get it treated.

It seems this dandelion is shrinking the tumors and without even forming a scab. There is at times some sensation like a very very mild almost a burn, but not even as sharp as an insect bite. Almost not noticeable at all.

All in it seems dandelion applied topically has acceptable if not good efficacy for shrinking basal cells.

As for my wart I have had 20 years on my finger it is still there but seems to be shrinking albeit slower that the BCC. The wart area turns black and the wart does not seem as sensitive as it was in the past. In the past when I ran my fingernail over it I could feel nerve action below. Today I still feel it but very faintly. So it seems somehow it is affecting the wart deeply but you would never know it. I have in the past used several bottles of Sacylicate, it was burned twice by dermatologist, and now it appears to be disapating more than it ever has. Success it seems may be coming.

If I had internal cancer I would certainly think about whether eating dandelion would put some of these chemicals into my blood stream. If so it could be a great way to kill other cancer cells. The key elements it seems is how it would transport in the body and where the cancer is. Topically with summer dandelion it seems that possibly the latex is thick so it may not have great transport characteristics. That could be good if you want to minimize poisons in the body. However may not be helpful if your intent is to have it circulate to some other organs in your body.

This is very powerful stuff so beware that it will likely interfere with the bacteria or viruses in your gut. This fact alone may keep one from using other than topically. since dandelion works for wart viruses it may also be helpful with other severe viruses that are in your gut. Like very bad ulcers or bad flue. However I would be very cautious in using it for a virus that would otherwise run it's course as the cure may be worst than the disease.

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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2010 :  12:03:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston - Thank you for the detailed updates! It sounds like you're having great success!

thanks01 - Great idea to move this to it's own thread, thanks!!

Here's some excerpts about Dandelion from a few websites that might help explain it's benefits & uses:
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Dandelion root is one of the safest and most popular herbal remedies. The specific name, officinale, means that It's used medicinally. The decoction is a traditional tonic. Itís supposed to strengthen the entire body, especially the liver and gallbladder, where it promotes the flow of bile, reduces inflammation of the bile duct, and helps get rid of gall stones. This is due to its taraxacin. Itís good for chronic hepatitis, it reduces liver swelling and jaundice, and it helps indigestion caused by insufficient bile. Don't use it with irritable stomach or bowel, or if you have an acute inflammation.

The modern French name for this plant is pissenlit (lit means bed) because the root and leaf tea act on the kidneys as a gentle diuretic, improving the way they cleanse the blood and recycle nutrients. Unlike pharmaceuticals diuretics, this doesn't leach potassium, a vital mineral, from the body. Improved general health and clear skin result from improved kidney function. One man I spoke to even claims he avoided surgery for urinary stones by using dandelion root tea alone.

Dandelions are also good for the bladder, spleen, pancreas, stomach and intestines. Itís recommended for stressed-out, internally sluggish, and sedentary people. Anyone who's a victim of excessive fat, white flour, and concentrated sweeteners could benefit from a daily cup of dandelion tea.

The leaf's white, milky sap removes warts, moles, pimples, calluses, and sores, and soothes bee stings and blisters. (Emphasis mine)

http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Plants.Folder/Dandelion.html
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More about the uses of Dandelion from the USDA, including the possible side effects:

Dandelion

© Scott Bauer, ARS/USDA

Introduction

This fact sheet provides basic information about dandelion—common names, uses, potential side effects, and resources for more information. Dandelion greens are edible and a rich source of vitamin A. Dandelion has been used in many traditional medical systems, including Native American and traditional Arabic medicine.

Common Names —dandelion, lion's tooth, blowball

Latin Name — Taraxacum officinale

What Dandelion Is Used For

Historically, dandelion was most commonly used to treat liver diseases, kidney diseases, and spleen problems. Less commonly, dandelion was used to treat digestive problems and skin conditions. (Emphasis mine)

Today, dandelion is used by some as a liver or kidney "tonic," as a diuretic, and for minor digestive problems.

How Dandelion Is Used

The leaves and roots of the dandelion, or the whole plant, are used fresh or dried in teas, capsules, or extracts. Dandelion leaves are used in salads or as a cooked green, and the flowers are used to make wine.

What the Science Says

There is no compelling scientific evidence for using dandelion as a treatment for any medical condition.

Side Effects and Cautions

Dandelion use is generally considered safe. However, there have been rare reports of upset stomach and diarrhea, and some people are allergic to the plant.

People with an inflamed or infected gallbladder, or blocked bile ducts, should avoid using dandelion.

Tell your health care providers about any complementary and alternative practices you use. Give them a full picture of what you do to manage your health. This will help ensure coordinated and safe care.

http://www.bing.com/health/article/nccam-122194/Dandelion?q=dandelion&FORM=FFF
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And from the herb site I use for my supplements:

Description: Dandelion [Urinary, Digestive] is a member of the sunflower family.

Its name is a corruption of the French dents de lion, meaning “teeth of the lion.” Herbalists consider this plant one of the most nutrient-rich in the plant kingdom.

Dandelion supports digestion and nourishes the liver.

The whole plant is edible—the flowers, the leaves and the roots. The herb is a source of many important minerals and vitamins.

http://www.mynsp.com/esuite/home/Herbs4Health
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Originally posted by txhouston

It has been 5 days since first application. One site has completely disappeared no scab just turned this black color which was washed off the surface. Then it shrunk away to nothing. Originally the site was red about the size of a pimple with some white stuff inside. It was not a pimple.

Second site shows no pink showed very low activity at last application. It is the site that was burned previously by the dermatologist.

Third site is black today but it is noticabley smaller in size. The third site was a new BCC that was bleeding, so I was going to have to go in and get it treated.

It seems this dandelion is shrinking the tumors and without even forming a scab. There is at times some sensation like a very very mild almost a burn, but not even as sharp as an insect bite. Almost not noticeable at all.

All in it seems dandelion applied topically has acceptable if not good efficacy for shrinking basal cells.

As for my wart I have had 20 years on my finger it is still there but seems to be shrinking albeit slower that the BCC. The wart area turns black and the wart does not seem as sensitive as it was in the past. In the past when I ran my fingernail over it I could feel nerve action below. Today I still feel it but very faintly. So it seems somehow it is affecting the wart deeply but you would never know it. I have in the past used several bottles of Sacylicate, it was burned twice by dermatologist, and now it appears to be disapating more than it ever has. Success it seems may be coming.

If I had internal cancer I would certainly think about whether eating dandelion would put some of these chemicals into my blood stream. If so it could be a great way to kill other cancer cells. The key elements it seems is how it would transport in the body and where the cancer is. Topically with summer dandelion it seems that possibly the latex is thick so it may not have great transport characteristics. That could be good if you want to minimize poisons in the body. However may not be helpful if your intent is to have it circulate to some other organs in your body.

This is very powerful stuff so beware that it will likely interfere with the bacteria or viruses in your gut. This fact alone may keep one from using other than topically. since dandelion works for wart viruses it may also be helpful with other severe viruses that are in your gut. Like very bad ulcers or bad flue. However I would be very cautious in using it for a virus that would otherwise run it's course as the cure may be worst than the disease.



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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2010 :  21:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AT this juncture 6 days after application the BCC sites have almost no pink at all. the sites are all smaller and much less or no raise in tissue. One site was a burn site so there is scar tissue from that procedure.

My original thought was that dandelion may arrest the BCC sufficiently that I could grow some Petty Spurge to cure the BCC. Now it seems the dandelion has exceeded my expectations and I may not need to grow Petty Spurge afterall.

I have observed a trend in the process. 1. paint the site, the latex forms a clear sticky coating over the site. 2. About 2-4 hours later starts to turn a yellow color. 3. After 1 day a soft scab forms and is a brown color. 4. Day 2 site become black and the scab is starting to dissipate 5. Day 3 black comes off much like a bit of dirt and BCC is smaller.

It seems to me that some of the cells are attacked from below by my body. Or it is that my autoimmune system quickly cleans up the garbage and re-stitches the healthy tissue together. This as compared to the chemotherapy treatment to my lip which had large chunks of damaged skin erupt out of lesions. This is a much milder process. I only saw what I thought was bleeding the first day on the site where the burn is, this may be due to having been done on damaged skin. It does seem that 2-3 applications are necessary. However significant progress is possible with one application.

For me this is the mildest treatment I have used. I have not had microsurgery but have had chemotherapy and had them burned off. The scar tissue is either so small I cannot see it or it si non-existent. My eyes are not as good as once were so may be that I cannot see it.

Overall this appears to be cure of the BCC site in less time than burning with nitrogen, and leaves no scar tissue. Heck if dermatologists are busy where you live anything like here you can schedule your dermatologist and be cured before you even get your appointment. Once you figure the savings from no dermatologist it appears to be a very low cost solution. It is also a treatment that should be very safe considering how many children have plucked dandelions over the years. I can imagine more than a few children have even tried to eat them.
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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2010 :  11:53:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 7 - I am going to reapply dandelion latex to one site. This site has shrunk more than 90% and is just a small red spot where it used to bleed.

I am also going to recoat my wart area. The wart decided to peal today. This wart feels better than it has for 20 years. I get no nerve sensation when scratching the site at all. It appears a cure is happening.

I have reason to believe this experiment while not rigorous to FDA standards is clear evidence that further study is warranted. I do believe that there is evidence that is sufficient to indicate use of this as a natural substance to cure BCC and warts. I can only believe that the same processes will occur internall if your body is exposed to the same RNA inhibitors after a person consumes dandelion.

In topical application this has been cheaper, quicker and with less damage than either burning or pharaceutical chemotherapy. This may be an area where our FDA system is not able to approve drugs that may work better than commercial pharmaceuticals. There is no profit to be had by simply investigating these substances to treat disease. With no profit then no one will front the money to do studies. I intend to write Bill Gates foundation to see if there is interest in a project.
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thanks01

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2010 :  15:01:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston, regarding your posts above, I especially enjoyed your graphic description of how to pluck off the dandelion head and create an instant "applicator." I am going to try this on a relative's wart and maybe also on some cancer and pre-cancer spots on myself. I also follow 2 other threads here, CNSL and Petty Spurge. I have some teeny-weeny Petty Spurge plants growing on my porch, but not big enough to experiment with.

If you write to the Bill Gates foundation, you could put the question in the general way you expressed it above, that there are many NATURAL substances not getting into the medical spotlight because they do not generate profit and do not come before the FDA to get regulated.

I see this with the CNSL situation. The doctor in the Phillipines who promotes Cashew Nut Shell Oil (which is VERY cheap), sells it surrounded by all sorts of potions and lotions, making the TINY amount he sends you very expensive. One way to get profit.

This is a GENERAL problem that perhaps a big foundation could address. Good idea.
Good luck as you follow through with your treatment. Let us know how it turns out. Thank you.
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anivoc

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Posted - 06/19/2010 :  18:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Tex that's some "Dandy" news you're sharing!

It's coincidental, I have some Google alerts set up for anything that mentions skin cancer and cure. A several months back I came upon one site where the guy..though a bit eccentric about the "how to's n such" claimed that God had shared the cure to cancer with him and that "cure" was using the root of Dandelions. Won't go into the whole story, I felt compelled to give it a try but put it on the back burner because at the very same time Petty Spurge had become the greatest news we have had here in years.

I believe in God and I know there has to be better ways other than the traditional ways the average dermatologist goes about treating these lesions.

Dan is a man of God and has generously provided all of us here a place to share our ideas and results. It has become a very good place to learn about successes and failures, hits and misses in the non melanoma skin cancer alternative treatment arena. It also lets all of know we are not alone. There are 100's of thousands of people just like us all going through this and we're not "crazy" believing there are better ways than what the average MD is going to offer us as a treatment.

Thanks for sharing your experience here. This is a real simple treatment that most anyone here can try if they so choose. What is great is in a short time we will know if this is a viable treatment for many or just a few lucky ones that react differently than the majority.

I know bloodroot works / reacts on every person that uses it but it is very painful,scaring and like with most treatments the BCC's come back and need to be retreated.

Hard to say but the Petty Spurge and now possibly dandelion don't seem to be quite so painful and seem to be getting the job done as well as anything else we have tried here.

For everybody, keep in mind that at least at this juncture there is nothing out there that is 100% "the cure" Mohs surgery which is the current gold standard is not 100%. None of the med world things like aldera, efudex or cryosurgery etc. are even close to a "cure". If I can control my lesions without having to spend thousands of dollars every few years to do so, especially with something as simple as dandelions or petty spurge I'm in.

Edited by - anivoc on 06/19/2010 18:18:22
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/20/2010 :  08:30:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The problem with a foundation is that they need to be a charitable organization to give money to. So there are legal requirements. I did not ask for money in my note, but the best way to gain interest is to find a qualified research organization to back. I have some contacts in the nutrition field that may help me but it will take some time to get in touch with them. Got to pick the right time to move it forward.

I personally think, there may be much more to this from a side of evolutionary biology. To the best of our estimation over 30,000 years humans have eaten all sorts of plants that today we do not consider foods. It is possible that not eating these plants today creates conditions where our bodies are unbalanced and therefore cancers are allowed to grow. So I propose that eating Dandelion raw and other plants raw be considered for treatment of internal cancers of various sorts.

The potential that cancer can be checked by simply eating select salads is simply too intriguing to not study. That these methods show extreme efficacy and that the plants have historically been consumed are two very important points to consider in developing this research potential.


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Originally posted by thanks01

txhouston, regarding your posts above, I especially enjoyed your graphic description of how to pluck off the dandelion head and create an instant "applicator." I am going to try this on a relative's wart and maybe also on some cancer and pre-cancer spots on myself. I also follow 2 other threads here, CNSL and Petty Spurge. I have some teeny-weeny Petty Spurge plants growing on my porch, but not big enough to experiment with.

If you write to the Bill Gates foundation, you could put the question in the general way you expressed it above, that there are many NATURAL substances not getting into the medical spotlight because they do not generate profit and do not come before the FDA to get regulated.

I see this with the CNSL situation. The doctor in the Phillipines who promotes Cashew Nut Shell Oil (which is VERY cheap), sells it surrounded by all sorts of potions and lotions, making the TINY amount he sends you very expensive. One way to get profit.

This is a GENERAL problem that perhaps a big foundation could address. Good idea.
Good luck as you follow through with your treatment. Let us know how it turns out. Thank you.

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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2010 :  08:53:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I think the correct way is to address with a foundation the specific modalities then to allude to other potential. In this way they will be sure you are not a nut.

I encourage others to write case histories here as well. Photos will help. If you cannot do photos, then making periodic blogs of the progress in serial posts will provide documentation that serious scientists will appreciate. I chose to share the blog as I could not get my cell phone camera to take decent pictures. If you cannot do a blog or othewise forget then simply reporting results will help.

With 2-3 others having reasonable documentation of success it will encourage $$$ to flow into this area of research.



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Originally posted by thanks01

txhouston, regarding your posts above, I especially enjoyed your graphic description of how to pluck off the dandelion head and create an instant "applicator." I am going to try this on a relative's wart and maybe also on some cancer and pre-cancer spots on myself. I also follow 2 other threads here, CNSL and Petty Spurge. I have some teeny-weeny Petty Spurge plants growing on my porch, but not big enough to experiment with.

If you write to the Bill Gates foundation, you could put the question in the general way you expressed it above, that there are many NATURAL substances not getting into the medical spotlight because they do not generate profit and do not come before the FDA to get regulated.

I see this with the CNSL situation. The doctor in the Phillipines who promotes Cashew Nut Shell Oil (which is VERY cheap), sells it surrounded by all sorts of potions and lotions, making the TINY amount he sends you very expensive. One way to get profit.

This is a GENERAL problem that perhaps a big foundation could address. Good idea.
Good luck as you follow through with your treatment. Let us know how it turns out. Thank you.

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txhouston

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2010 :  09:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I am especially encouraged that you write others will try this.

I suggest to make log of progress, pictures etc. These will help garner serious attention that lead to helping the millions of people affected by this cancer.

Thanks also for the kind words.

It is not the MD that is the primary problem relating to use of botanical in medical treatment. The problem is that of government perception of risk coincident with the propensity of hucksters to promote products based on nothing but a hope. The government perceives risk the experiments will fail, that costs to do research are too high, that profitable businesses should be promoted and headline risk (nuclear option - front page of NYT). These overwhelm calculations of perceived gain which is limited to alleviating individual suffering.

I am not sure I would say it should be any different. Just that it is important to put things into perspective and avoid hinting at culpability towards people with little ability to affect change. In this case an MD who has disincentives to go against the grain.





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Wow Tex that's some "Dandy" news you're sharing!

It's coincidental, I have some Google alerts set up for anything that mentions skin cancer and cure. A several months back I came upon one site where the guy..though a bit eccentric about the "how to's n such" claimed that God had shared the cure to cancer with him and that "cure" was using the root of Dandelions. Won't go into the whole story, I felt compelled to give it a try but put it on the back burner because at the very same time Petty Spurge had become the greatest news we have had here in years.

I believe in God and I know there has to be better ways other than the traditional ways the average dermatologist goes about treating these lesions.

Dan is a man of God and has generously provided all of us here a place to share our ideas and results. It has become a very good place to learn about successes and failures, hits and misses in the non melanoma skin cancer alternative treatment arena. It also lets all of know we are not alone. There are 100's of thousands of people just like us all going through this and we're not "crazy" believing there are better ways than what the average MD is going to offer us as a treatment.

Thanks for sharing your experience here. This is a real simple treatment that most anyone here can try if they so choose. What is great is in a short time we will know if this is a viable treatment for many or just a few lucky ones that react differently than the majority.

I know bloodroot works / reacts on every person that uses it but it is very painful,scaring and like with most treatments the BCC's come back and need to be retreated.

Hard to say but the Petty Spurge and now possibly dandelion don't seem to be quite so painful and seem to be getting the job done as well as anything else we have tried here.

For everybody, keep in mind that at least at this juncture there is nothing out there that is 100% "the cure" Mohs surgery which is the current gold standard is not 100%. None of the med world things like aldera, efudex or cryosurgery etc. are even close to a "cure". If I can control my lesions without having to spend thousands of dollars every few years to do so, especially with something as simple as dandelions or petty spurge I'm in.

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txhouston

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Posted - 06/21/2010 :  22:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 9 - the last area has not fully cleared up. The area is not nearly as red and is much much smaller than the past. However there is a hole in my skin about the size of a pin. I can stretch my aged skin and open up the hole to about the size of a pinhead. The color inside this hole is red, not a good sign.

There is a season complication with my use of dandelion. The milk from the weed is not plentiful in Houston heat, normally 95 degrees during the day, not so hot I know from other parts of the country, but here the humidity is very high. I rationalize that this heat is causing most dandelions to be dormant. This rationalization is partially justified by the fact that the only dandelions I can find are in unmowed areas, my thinking is that these dandelions are surviving, but not thriving.

The milk that I do get is invisible on my skin after application. It is so thick and small amount that I do not see any liquid at all.

So I will do another treatment. I will be spreading the hole open to better allow the milk to penetrate. This may not be easy as I have one hand to do the spreading and the application. SO I will experiment with some means to do this prior to going to site again.

I have still Petty spurge seeds coming as a backup. This due to propensity of pharmaceutical cancer drugs to first show good efficacy then to show reduced efficacy. Thus Petty Spurge has turned into my backup plan. I am elated that my primary plan has turned into my backup plan, from the standpoint that I have more flexibility than first anticipated.

The color of the areas has almost completely returned to normal with the exception of the hole that has been noted. The wart is not bothering me and last application did not darken any skin, so either there is a lack of latex or the wart is dissipated.

I will continue to report to add to the scientific record.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  20:05:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 9 - Before I could do another treatment a scab formed over this pinhole. I will now wait until scab is gone before I apply more latex.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  11:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 10 - The last area is now so small that I have difficulty finding it. There is a slight raised section about the diameter of a grain of rice at the rice's girth. The area is light colored with a slight sheen like a blister does. There is a small scab in the center. The color is mostly white and a little bit of pink.

What I surmize is that this is somehow some material left over from the BCC with some type of tissue over the top. I will continue to monitor and report. I am not sure if I will add more dandelion milk to this or not.

I am guessing that the sheen may peel off one day.

The area that had been burned and came back also has a sheen in the area where the redness was.

My wart, while healed continues to show some activity. There is a white dot at the location. Nerve action upon scraping is slightly noticable, however much reduced from the past.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  18:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Day 16 - I have not applied more dandelion. There are two areas that still have something of note.

The area that had been burned by the Dr. is somewhat numb to the touch. This contrasts with other burn sites which are not numb to the touch by fingernail.

The area that had never been Dr. Treated which is was bleeding is now white colored. It is much smaller though that the original red area. It is also numb to the touch. Both areas have a sheen to the surface.

I am cautiously optimistic that skin may peal off from these sites. There is some indication this may happen as when I scratch one site I am able to peal away a layer of skin.
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Posted - 06/29/2010 :  00:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
txhouston, thanks for sharing the dandelion remedy for skin cancer even though it may be still a work in progress. Hopefully, your exciting progress will continue!

There is a fair amount of supporting scientific research for using dandelion as a remedy that anyone can google.

Dandelion Review Article (Taraxacum officinale and T mongolicum)
Eric Yarnell, ND, RH (AHG), and Kathy Abascal, JD, RH (AHG)

Dandelion (Taraxacum) is used in many traditional and modern herbal medical systems, as particularly has been documented in Asia, Europe, and North America. The root is primarily considered a gastrointestinal remedy supporting digestion and liver function, while the leaf is used as a diuretic and bitter digestive stimulant. Preclinical research on dandelion has revealed numerous properties, including its actions as an inflammation modulator, diuretic, digestive stimulant, insulin stimulant, demulcent, prebiotic, immunomodulator, antiangiogenic, and antineoplastic, although not all studies agree. www.imjournal.com/resources/web_pdfs/0409_yarnell.pdf

Known active constituents of dandelion include:
Root
- Bitter sesquiterpene lactones: taraxinic acid (taraxacin), tetrahydroridentin B
- Triterpenoids: Beta-amyrin, taraxasterol, taraxerol, cycloartenol
- Sterols: sitosterin, stigmasterin, phytosterin
- Vitamins A, C and D and B vitamins, choline
- Minerals: potassium, calcium
- Glycosides
- Phenolic acids: caffeic acid, chlorogenic acid
- Flavonoids: apigenin, luteolin
- Other: sugars, tannins, alkaloids, pectin, inulin, starch, caffeic acid, asparagines
Leaf
- Coumarins
- Carotenoids: lutein, violoxanthin
- Bitter sesquiterpene lactones: taraxinic acid (taraxacin)
- Triterpenoids: cycloartenol
- Vitamins A, B, C and D
- Minerals: iron, potassium, magnesium, sodium, zinc, manganese, copper, phosphorus
- Bitters

Animal data: In 1979, a Japanese study found that Taraxacum (dandelion) administered to mice for 10 days markedly inhibited the growth of inoculated cancer cells after a week of treatment. In 1979, the Japanese also patented a freeze-dried warm water extract of the root as an antitumour agent, and in 1981, they found Tof-CFr, a glucose polymer, to exhibit antitumour actions in mice.

Dandelion is Generally Regarded as Safe (GRAS) with rare side effects including contact dermatitis, diarrhea, and gastrointestinal upset. Traditionally, the herb is not recommended in patients with liver or gallbladder disease, based on the belief that dandelion stimulates bile secretion (an assertion not demonstrated in animal or human studies).

One can also consider commercial dandelion extracts such as http://www.mdidea.com/products/new/new023.html As usual, try any skin cancer remedy at your own risk.
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txhouston

USA
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Posted - 07/05/2010 :  12:31:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I obtained a petty spurge plant and put in on the two primary sites. Within a day there is a reaction on both sites. It looks much like poison ivy, without any itch however. I also notice the area is not as numb to the touch now.

The one which was bleeding has less of a reaction. I suspect this is because I was able to get the dandelion milk into the open skin.

I suspect that dandelion was killing cells atop my skin but was unable to penetrate well.

So far it seems that I have been successful at arresting development with dandeliion however petty spurge it seems may be more able to root out problems.

Part of the problem with dandelion may not be the lack of capability of the chemicals, but that the latex production of the plant was very low due to weather. The petty spurge plant I obtained was living in a cooler area of texas. It has much more latex to production than the dandelion.

There is lots to learn regarding these chemicals. Just to think that these work at all is simply astounding.
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