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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2007 :  14:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dan has some good info on this site regarding a bodies acidity and the possible icreased risk of an acid environment and cancer. I found this very interesting article today regarding cancer treatment with a sodium bicarbonate solution (baking soda is sodium bicarb).

Does anyone have any knowledge of skin cancer being treated with a sodium bicarb solution?

Here is a portion of the article followed by the link:

"Most of us are going to be surprised to find out that there is an oncologist in Rome Italy, Dr. Tullio Simoncini, destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate.[i] Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to cancer tissues. Itís an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only days,"
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"At a pH slightly above 7.4 cancer cells become dormant and at pH 8.5 cancer cells will die while healthy cells will live. This has given rise to a variety of treatments based on increasing the alkalinity of the tissues such as vegetarian diet, the drinking of fresh fruit and vegetable juices, and dietary supplementation with alkaline minerals such as calcium, potassium, magnesium, cesium and rubidium. But nothing can compare to the instant alkalinizing power of sodium bicarbonate for safe and effective treatment of cancer."


http://www.landrights.com/this_is_life_saving_information.htm

dan

609 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  01:35:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sodium bicarbonate is certainly one of the safer things to try. Taking sodium bicarbonate orally to alkalize the body may make sense several hours after eating. With our modern diets being so salty, common wisdom has been to avoid extra sodium. I remember my grandfather taking sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) as an antacid.

A healthy pancreas secretes sodium bicarbonate to neutralize stomach acid and create an optimal pH environment for pancreatic enzymes. Some of these enzymes circulate in the blood to destroy cancers that occur. Too much iron interferes with the ability of the pancreas to generate sodium bicarbonate and can lead to insulin resistance. Diabetes and cancer are linked because an unhealthy pancreas advances both diseases.

I wonder how one could administer sodium bicarbonate topically. I seems it would be a white mess, but maybe that would be OK at night. Ammonia is another alternative, although it is less safe to use. Ammonia gets absorbed deeply into the skin and maintains an locally alkaline condition for hours. Household ammonia (pH=11.5) is also a much stronger alkaline than sodium bicarbonate {pH=8.5). If the goal is to get above a pH of 8.5 to kill cancer cells, baking soda probably would not be strong enough by itself. Baking soda could have a topical role together with cancer dissolving pancreatin enzymes that work best at pH=8.5

Please ignore my ramblings if you have an answer to rocco's question!
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anivoc

647 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2007 :  20:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Dan I don't necessarily have an answer but I'll ramble for a few moments too.

Food Grade DMSO Dimethyl Sulfoxide http://www.dmso.org/subLevels/what.htm

Is a great carrier.

When Rocco mentioned it I thought of how I always make a paste of it for mosquito bites.. water and baking soda..

Certainly the same could be made with dmso I will try and report
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bi11duncan

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2007 :  08:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer and do not fancy the radiotherapy which has been prescribed.

So having seen Dr Simoncini's site I decided on some self treatment and to get the solution as near to the site as possible because the prostate is almost as far from the mouth as it can get and all the acids in between would neutralise it, an ennema seemed to be the best method. The strength is 2.5ml NaHCo3 to 250ml pure water so that hopefully the osmosis effect would take the solution into the prostate.

Bill Duncan
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SoFl

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2007 :  09:34:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bi11duncan

I have been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer and do not fancy the radiotherapy which has been prescribed.

So having seen Dr Simoncini's site I decided on some self treatment and to get the solution as near to the site as possible because the prostate is almost as far from the mouth as it can get and all the acids in between would neutralise it, an ennema seemed to be the best method. The strength is 2.5ml NaHCo3 to 250ml pure water so that hopefully the osmosis effect would take the solution into the prostate.

Bill Duncan



Hi Bill.

Check out Turmeric. I take it daily as a preventative but if I had prostate cancer I'd take a lot of it. Do a google search on turmeric cancer.


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pete francis

17 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2007 :  12:54:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Bi11duncan, My brother in law has prostate cancer. His numbers were quite high and they were trying to decide which treatment to use...none of which sounded like fun. However, they decided to try Zyflamend and his numbers have improved to be very low. The doctor says that the cancer cells are in self-destruction, which is called "apoptosis". You can read all about it in Columbia University studies which are posted on the web. If you wish, let me know, and I will get the number results from his tests. There are two articles one in 2005 and the other in 2007. Sure hope you get this message and that it helps!http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/news/press_releases/zyflamend.html
quote:
Originally posted by bi11duncan

I have been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer and do not fancy the radiotherapy which has been prescribed.

So having seen Dr Simoncini's site I decided on some self treatment and to get the solution as near to the site as possible because the prostate is almost as far from the mouth as it can get and all the acids in between would neutralise it, an ennema seemed to be the best method. The strength is 2.5ml NaHCo3 to 250ml pure water so that hopefully the osmosis effect would take the solution into the prostate.

Bill Duncan

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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2007 :  21:32:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pete, it is nice to hear a good report about Zyflamend. It is a herbal product available in capsules and also a liquid that I have wondered about applying topically on skin cancers. See http://www.vitacost.com/New-Chapter-Zyflamend-Liquid In addition to turmeric, Zyflamend contains holy basil, ginger, green tea, rosemary, Hu Zhang (a resveratrol source), Chinese goldthread, barberry, oregano, and scutellaria.
http://www.raysahelian.com/zyflamend.html has links to the individual ingredients in Zyflamend as well as research updates showing it is effective against some cancers by regulating cancer pathways involving NF-kappa B and the COX-2 enzyme.
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pete francis

17 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2007 :  15:02:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it would be worth contacting Columbia re your idea. I just hope Bill Duncan returns to this site.
quote:
Originally posted by dan

Pete, it is nice to hear a good report about Zyflamend. It is a herbal product available in capsules and also a liquid that I have wondered about applying topically on skin cancers. See http://www.vitacost.com/New-Chapter-Zyflamend-Liquid In addition to turmeric, Zyflamend contains holy basil, ginger, green tea, rosemary, Hu Zhang (a resveratrol source), Chinese goldthread, barberry, oregano, and scutellaria.
http://www.raysahelian.com/zyflamend.html has links to the individual ingredients in Zyflamend as well as research updates showing it is effective against some cancers by regulating cancer pathways involving NF-kappa B and the COX-2 enzyme.

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rocco

77 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2007 :  12:04:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from Dan's post, "In addition to turmeric, Zyflamend contains holy basil, ginger, green tea, rosemary, Hu Zhang (a resveratrol source), Chinese goldthread, barberry, oregano, and scutellaria."

Sounds like another reason for most of us to supplement with some or all of the above listed items.

I wanted to try and use resveratrol topically, but, it would be a major skin stainer - not good to try on a spot on the face anyway. Ginger is a good topical choice, in my opinion, as it is definitely been shown as an apoptosis inducer. Fresh ginger root is especially rich in the gingerol compounds...strong antioxidants and bad cell killers.


Edited by - rocco on 10/19/2007 16:20:11
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pinkie

India
3 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2007 :  04:37:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to
cancer tissues. Itís an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells
with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they
can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium
bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only
days, as does another cancer treatment that heats the cancer cells with laser generated heat.
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Marcel P

Australia
2 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2008 :  19:01:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I will be in Rome on vacation I thought that I may as well give Dr. T. Simoncini's bicarbonate soda treatment for Prostate cancer a try however I would like to hear from anyone who has had the treatment.
Currently I drink fruit and vegatable juice contain ginger and tumeric plus consuming a what seems like a truck load of pills.

Marcel P
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2008 :  18:01:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Italy, Simoncini was convicted for manslaughter: 3 people died while being treated by him. He also was accused of fraud. Because of his conviction, he is no longer allowed to practise medicine.
He fled Italy and is currently working as a docter in a private clinic in The Netherlands. A woman suffering from breastcancer died there while being treated by him (October 2007).
There is no evidence whatsoever that cancer is a fungus and that cancer can be cured with sodium bicarbonate. Simoncini's treatments are extremely dangerous and very expensive.
He is a a very dangerous man, completely callous, suffering from megalomania, please do NOT NOT NOT let yourself be treated by him, it may cost you your life, it will cost you a lot money and it will certainly not cure you.
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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2008 :  00:16:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If every oncologist was considered in the same light as Dr Simoncini each could be convicted for multiple homicides because they all have had patients die on them. Conventional medicine has an extremely poor track record of curing cancer. I'm not saying Dr Simoncini has the answers but it is unfair to judge him based on patient deaths if some people do respond to his treatments. He would only have to be 10% successful to be on par with many other treatments.

I think there is a reasonable possibility that at least some cancers are caused or aided by underlying candida infections. I think it makes sense to avoid being acidic by making good diet choices such as reducing sugar intake to prevent cancers. Still, I'm not aware that anyone in this forum has healed their skin cancer using sodium bicarbonate.
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2008 :  04:39:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No one responds well to his treatment! He has delivered NO scientific evidence whatsoever for his hypothesis that cancer is a fungus and that it can be cured with sodium bicarbonate.
He has not been able to deliver ANY reliable evidence of cured patients or even patients who have fared better after his treatment. Why give him the benefit of the doubt, with your life as the stake, when he refuses to give any decent evidence at all?

His theory that cancer is a fungus is incorrect. Some tumors show fungus growth (candida albicans) but this is not the cause of the cancer. Most tumors show no fungus at all, so how can his hypothesis be right?

The 3 deaths for which he was convicted: they did NOT die of cancer, they died as a direct result of his treatment. The patient in the Netherlands had breast cancer in an early stage from which she could have easily recovered. She died in the clinic where he worked, the treatment lasted for 5 days, at the end of which she died because of complications due to injections of high dosages of sodium bicarbonate.
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  05:48:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simoncini claims to have cured a great number of patients of cancer with injection with high dosages of sodium bicarbonate.
Who all these people are, nobody knows. Up to now, we only heard about a few cases and they did not end well.

One of his claims concerns a Dutch lady who was said to suffer from incurable ovarian cancer. Three days after his treatment of her, Simoncini concluded she was cured.
(How can this be??? It needs at least 10 years for a person to be declared cured of cancer. And what about micrometastases, how can he be sure there arentít any?)

The lady had undergone an operation in a cancer clinic in the Netherlands and the doctors supposedly told her that she was incurable. And then Simoncini completely cured her in only 3 days!
Of course every one was very interested in the ladyís medical file, oncologists in particular, but sadly the information in the file was never made public. So we donít really know very much at all. We donít even know if she had cancer to begin with.

In Italy, Simoncini was convicted for manslaughter: 3 people died due to a treatment by simoncini, consisting of injections with high dosages of sodium bicarbonate. Simoncini was also convicted for fraud and tax evasion. Because of his conviction for manslaughter, he is no longer allowed to practise medicine.

However, simioncini fled Italy and is currently working as a doctor in a private clinic in The Netherlands.
A woman suffering from breast cancer died there while being treated by him (October 2007). This patient in the Netherlands had breast cancer in an early stage from which she could have easily recovered. She died in the clinic where Simoncini worked and was given injections by him. The treatment lasted for 5 days and ended with her death.

His theory that cancer is a fungus is completely without basis. Some tumors show fungus growth (candida albicans) but this is not the cause of the cancer. Most tumors show no fungus at all, so how can his hypothesis be right?

Simoncini has not been able to deliver any evidence whatsoever that cancer is a fungus and it can be cured with sodium bicarbonate, nor has he been able to deliver ANY reliable evidence of cured patients or even patients who have fared better as a result of his treatment.

Injections with high dosages of sodium bicarbonate can be very dangerous: it disturbs the levels of acid in the body, which can lead to serious and even lethal complications. It is by no means the innocent therapy that it is claimed to be!
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  11:15:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
5 february 2008

REPORT DUTCH HEALTH INSPECTION.

The health inspection concluded that:

a.the sodiumbicarbonate-treatment has not scientifically proven working.
b. can lead to an acid base disequilibrium in the patient.
c. must be strongly advised against.

In the Netherlands it's forbidden to give an "experimental" treatment (like the sodiumbicarbonate-treatment) even when patients have had (or denied themselves)the "vested" chemotherapy or radiotherapy and when regular medicine has stopped the "treatment" of the cancerpatients altogether. Even if cancerpatients have made a (conscious) personnal choice for such treatment.


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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  20:40:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

never mind this silly person Jenny Jo and her mate Peter. They must be paid by big pharma to blacken Dr. Simoncini's name and his good work.


http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/cancer-therapy-video.html

http://www.cancerfungus.com/simoncini-cancer-fungus.php

I wonder why Jenny Jo and Peter don't put a stop in holland to kill unborn babies. Go to the abortion and euthanasia forum, there is a lot you can do. So Jenny Jo and Peter stay away from here and sort out your problems in your own country. Terminal ill patients should have a say in whatever treatment they want!

Moderator stop those two people putting slanderous messages on this forum. GIVE THEM A BAN!
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  01:18:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Research into DCA gives promising results, so further research is needed & I hope this will give good results.

For Simoncini's therapy however there is no evidence at all as yet.
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  03:43:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most certainly terminally ill patients should have a free choice, I donít argue with that, on the contrary..
But does free choice also mean that patients should automatically be fair game to people practising all kinds of unproven therapies?

When a regular doctor or pharmaceutical company dispenses drugs or therapies that are not sufficiently tested, of which the curatieve effect as wel as possible side effects are unknown, we demand they are put before a court of law, and rightly so.

Now why should mr simoncini in particular be allowed to work outside all rules and regulations? It leaves patients completely unprotected. I donít see the logic in that.
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  05:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fancent I guess he doesn't beat his wife but I don't know for sure because
I don't know Simoncini so personally. And probably Simoncini is friendly to
may people , like most swindlers are. In the beginning I was also quite
curious about him but when I asked some other people how the therory of
Simoncini that cancer is a mould fit in their ideas about cancer I got a
lot of answers. Since some months Simoncini changed this mould theory for
international purpuse. The problem is Fancent that Simoncini misuses the
work you and many other people in the world do everyday to try to find a
more natural cancertreatment. Ofcourse when a woman with ovariancancer
comes to Simoncini and she get no chemo and everyday certain nutritional
supplements and good vegetarian food and bicarbonateinjections she will
doing well. BUT without bicarbonate injections she will do the same.

And if bicarbonate wasn't dangerous it might be no problem but for sure
already some people died direct caused by the injections. A biochemist in
the Netherlands has described and analysed that bicarbonate injections
direct in breasttissue with cancer can cause death in a few days.

That's why I'm warning for this man who is in my eyes and many facts prove
this, is a swindler . Fancent you tell us that you think Simoncini really
believes in his theory but why he didn't do any study, why he tells
everybody he is an oncologist but never published any study so probably he
bought his license? (In Italy this was and is quite easy when you have
some money and good contacts).

And why are there in 20 years no other cancer patients who tell the whole
world they were cured with proven scans and medical reports? I think
Fancent I might tell the whole world if a man cured me from my cancer.

Many many facts about Simoncini tells another story then what he is trying
to tell the world.

But ofcourse anybody is free to choose for any treatment.

Peter
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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  05:16:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Terminal ill patients do have rights!!!!!!!!! In the UK there is freedom of choice for terminal ill patients. They can have an unproven experimental treatment as a last choice!!! That's freedom!! Facing death and knowing there is a cure but not proven by science must be very hard for patients. To wait for science to prove is not where terminal patients can wait for! It takes too long.
Terminal patients want to try anything to cure. Let them have this choice. It's a human right! They should have the right to try unproven treatment!


NaHCO3=sodium bicarbonate which is not dangerous it's used in Hospitals all over the world in nearly every Hospitalward a common medication for teatment.

But Dr. Simoncini has discovered that this medicine can do far more!!! And that's what a lot of people in the medical world don't like. Because it is very cheap and one can not make so much money on this than on Chemotherapy you see! It's a moneymatter! Think for yourself! Disaese keeps economy going? Ask yourself those questions? Why does it take so long to find a cure for Cancer? Read about Rife!! Read about alternative treatments, there is far more information. Get yourself informed!!!



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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  05:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FREE CHOICE IN THE UK?

Quote:
In the UK there is freedom of choice for terminal ill patients. They can have an unproven experimental treatment as a last choice!!! That's freedom!! End of quote.

You may want to check this out:
And this:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3134337.ece
Please note what it says about this new law:
"The new Natural Healthcare Council Ė which is being backed by the Prince of Wales Ė will be able to strike off errant or incompetent practitioners. It will also set minimum standards for practitioners to ensure that therapists are properly qualified.

Patients will be able to complain to the council about practitioners and the new body will be modelled on the General Medical Council and other similar statutory bodies."

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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  05:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Moderator stop this woman. She's putting slanderous messages on this forum. GIVE her A BAN!

She's promoting simoncini, the same she did in the Netherlands, and she lost!



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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  06:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.striscialanotizia.mediaset.it/video/2005/03/31/video_1237.shtml?adsl

Look to this video!

Fanta is doing promotions for this (doctor)!

Simoncini charges in the beginning for Dutch patients euro 6.000,- for a treatment and the patient had for that to travel to Italy.

Also the promoting people have to be paid!
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  08:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

In the Netherlands a clinic for complementary treatments invited Simoncini to treat cancerpatients. He came in october to the Netherlands.
From all the patients he treated there no one of them got profit for their cancer.
In contrary one woman with no metastised breastcancer died four days after Simoncini started his injections.
And this woman died directly caused by those injections not from her cancer or other cause.


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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  09:03:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



http://www.guardian.co.uk:80/science/2008/mar/22/cancer.health?gusrc=rss&feed=fromtheguardian


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Terminal-cancer-patients-to-get.3905464.jp
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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  09:34:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Dan,
On Dr. Tullio simoncini's website you can read how he treats skincancer.


quote:

If every oncologist was considered in the same light as Dr Simoncini each could be convicted for multiple homicides because they all have had patients die on them. Conventional medicine has an extremely poor track record of curing cancer. I'm not saying Dr Simoncini has the answers but it is unfair to judge him based on patient deaths if some people do respond to his treatments. He would only have to be 10% successful to be on par with many other treatments.




I fully agreee with you Dan! Thank you!



quote:

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/cancer-therapy-simoncini-protocol.html

Please be advised that for type of treataments requiring only dropping, whashing, drinking and for psoriasis or skin cancer the supervision of a doctor is indicated. For other type of cancer the involvement of a doctor is mandatory.

ē Dietary supplements (K, Mg, etc.)
ē Melanoma and skin cancer
Take 7% Iodine Tincture
Apply the solution with a small brush 20-30 time continuously once a day.
A crust will appear in few days
When she raises on the border, donít touch or remove her.
Just let the Iodine tincture flow down slightly; she will help the crust to fall down
Keep on treating the area until the third crust will fall down
At that moment most probably the skin will be healed

ē Side effect: few pain




You see, Dr. Simoncini has discovered Cancer is a fungus and he treats them with NaCHO3, but there might be more ways to treat the fungus like DCA.
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JennyJo

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  10:08:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ Fanta,

You fail to mention this:
. Spcialist centres to give experimental treatment
∑ Sufferers will be told of risks and side-effects

The experiments in the UK are conducted under strict supervision of the NHS and the Cancer Research.
Patients will be fully informed of the risks and possible side-effects of taking the unproven drugs, and initially given small doses to minimise the dangers.
For each product that comes along, it is clear what the potential side-effects might be, and there is staff who spends a lot of time counselling patients before they sign up to make them aware of the risks and potential lack of benefits.
Patients do not have to pay any money for taking part in the experiment instead of having to pay thousands of pounds.
And, most important: not just any drugs are used. There must be a sound foundation for the hypothesis thst the drug in question will have an effect.

It is clear that this is not the way simoncini works, so his therapy would certainly not come into question.

I've made my point here, so I'm not going to discuss this matter any further.
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  10:25:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simoncini present himself as a physician and oncologist but he never published a study in the 20 years he says he worked as an oncologist and with bicarbonate.

Not even a study with animals.

It seems he bought his license and never studied for medical doctor because normally when you do a study for medical doctor you have to do research for getting your license......

So, what he's doing is illegal and criminal!

And if you decide to buy the book you're sponsoring Simoncini, Fanta, etc..
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  08:49:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CURED PATIENTS???

OR PART OF THE SALES DEPARTMENT!

At the Dutch Television one woman told she got a lot of profits from Simoncini (patient testimonials: video 2, Marion, Simoncini international) but it turned out she was very good friend of Simoncini and she was already two years cancerfree of her breastcancer after a regular operation and hormonetherapy.

She told at the television she was cured by Simoncini.

Another woman (patient testimonials: video 1, Marjolein, Simoncini international) told in february 2008 she was cured by him for her ovarioncancer but it turned out she got a regular operation in december 2007 and the only thing was she refused chemo and felt very well.
But chemo for ovarioncancer isn't the best approach and no one can say two months after the operation you are cured.

A few weeks ago a brother of this woman told his sister is now the mistress of Simoncini.
I don't know if this true but it was her brother who told this. This brother and the rest of the family was first very enthousiastic about Simoncini, now the family is less enthousiastic.
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peter

Netherlands
10 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2008 :  03:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The cancer therapy of Dr. Tullio Simoncini: report from the Netherlands.


Doctor Simoncini from Italy is well known for his assumption that cancer is a fungus and should therefore be treated with sodium bicarbonate. On October 8th 2007 a Dutch breast cancer patient died in the Netherlands after she was treated by Dr. Simoncini. The cascade of events is subject to investigation by the department of public prosecution/the police and the Netherlands Health Care Inspectorate.

In his home country Dr. Simoncini was banned from his profession and was convicted in 2003 because of fraud and involuntary manslaughter of a patient. For several years he practises alternative medicine in Italy and the Netherlands. For some time he rents a room in Ďthe Clinic for Preventive Medicine Berg en Bosch' in Bilthoven, Utrecht region, Netherlands. In this building, several alternative healers gather up to provide scientific unproven therapies for cancer.

In December 2006 the 58-year old Sylvia was diagnosed with metastasized breast cancer and was offered chemotherapy. For a second opinion she goes to Switserland and Germany who all advised her to start with chemotherapy and have her breast amputaded. She decided to give it a thought and visited several alternative healers in the Netherlands. Finally, she met Dr. Simoncini who now states she never started with the bicarbonate treatment.

The patientís friend was with her all the time and tells a completely different story. In the beginning of October 2007 Dr. Simoncini flew to the Netherlands and started treating Sylvia with intratumoral bicarbonate injections. He was supported by an Italian male assistant. She received up to 20 injections in her breast tumor. In the night before she died she became sick and contacted the general practitioner who prescribed something for diarrhea. While getting worse every hour, her friend contacted Simonciniís assistant who diagnosed ordinary flu over the telephone.

Finally, in a nearly dead state she was towed out of her appartment by the fire department and was presented on the first aid department of the Free University Medical Center of Amsterdam were she died resulting from metabolic alkalosis related disease. The attending internist refused to sign the documents for a natural death and contacted the police. An autopsy revealed she did not die due to breast cancer. She had several injection spots on her blue swollen mutilated breast.

Several media contacted Dr. Simoncini in Italy who on his turn repeatedly claimed Sylvia was not treated with bicarbonate. Several people, including personnel from the preventive clinic, confirm that Simoncini is lying and that Sylvia indeed did receive his treatment.



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lsk5689

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2008 :  09:02:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sought SODIUM BICARBONATE therapy to treat my lymphoma. My and my wife's research lead us to Dr. Simoncini who lead us to Dr.Lodi who runs a clinic in Mesa, Arizona called An Oasis of Healing. We have renamed the clinic An Oasis of Stress. The disorganization and seeming lack of patient regard is palpable. After being there 2 weeks my treatment protocol had not been decided, treatment schedules changed, Dr. Lodi misses a scheduled appointment and doesn't even apologize. But I digress. Dr. Lodi was all too happy to give me intravenous sodium bicarbonate treatments.

My main point: When Dr. Lodi changed my treatment schedule the third time I questioned him. He suggested I call a doctor who he claimed was the foremost expert in the United States on Dr. Simoncini's sodium bicarbonate therapy. I'll call this doctor Dr. A.
Dr. Lodi told me that he consulted with Dr. A specifically about my case and that Dr. A would confirm that the treatments being given to me by Dr. Lodi was correct. Dr. A replied to me by email and wrote: "Blood born cancers do not, at this time, appear to respond well to sodium bicarbonate protocols"... He went on recommending another treatment protocol by another doctor for which there was proven success with a lymphoma patient. DR. A's opinion was confirmed by yet another doctor and colleague of Dr. Lodi..

DR. LODI NEVER DISCLOSED TO ME THE INEFFECTIVENESS OF SODIUM BICARBONATE FOR MY CONDITION. HE HAD TO KNOW. DR. LODI WAS A COLLEAGUE OF DR. A. HE SAT ON THE BOARD OF DR. A'S RESEARCH FOUNDATION. HE CONSULTED WITH DR. A ABOUT MY ILLNESS AND TREATMENT. TWO COLLEAGUES OFFERED THE SAME OPINION INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

Cancer patients are fighting for their lives and they deserve absolute honesty from their doctors so they can make informed decisions. If you had a viral infection and asked your doctor for antibiotics he is duty bound to tell you that antibiotics are ineffective against viral infections and refuse your request. Unfortunately for me and others, the profit motive reigns supreme at An Oasis of Healing.
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lsk5689

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2008 :  09:34:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Addendum to my initial post:

Needless to say PET and CT scans revealed no apoptosis (killing cancerous cells) ocurred
as a result of the intravenous sodium bicabonate treatment. A waste of time and money.

Also, please note, I have not made any claims against Dr.Simoncini and my statements should not be construed as such. I do not know if he or sodium bicab do any good. I only know that taken intravenously it does not help with my type of cancer. The delivery method and type of cancer are variables that must be taken into consideration. Dr. Simoncini advocates injection of sodium bicarbonate directly onto the tumor site. Injection is illegal in the United States so a slow intravenous drip is used which does not supply the same direct concentration onto the cancer site as would an injection. My oncologist at Dana-Farber also said a healthy kidney would remove the excess sodium almost as fast as it was put in.
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Dr.Jones

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2008 :  13:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have NO connections to Dr.simoncini at all.How many out there have read Dr.Simoncini's book?Or read every article posted on his site?
He is frankly honest about some whom he could not help as those cases are posted on his site,stating they passed away.He could easily have left those cases off his site!
Most people come to alternatiive therapies when they are in advanced stages of cancer.Why come at all?Because the cancer threatments medics use are failure systems boosted by big profits.Imagine putting vile deadly chemicals into the human body some(even the hair falls out as it is being poisoned!)are actually used as RAT poison on the commercial market which the news media(who makes milions on drug ads)brought out when dogs were dying from tainted food.
The chemical in question is used in cancer chemo treatments!!!I have known biochemcists who worked for these companies and the stories are horrific.
Some left because of their conscience.No one was allowed to even touch the chemo powders or liquids that were being produced!!!
Tens of thousands die each year from medical chemo therapy and we dare to say Simoncini is a quack because he lost some to cancer?
I know of one lady whose tumors vanished in 10 days on sodium bicarbonate IV direct to the site and she remains cancer free as per standard medical tests.There are are many but the treatment is new.Some will die because of the nature of cancer,but others will be cured.
Since I was young I have never seen anyone recover form cancer doing chemo or radiation including my own father!!!It is a failure!
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Brenda

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2008 :  14:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda
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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2008 :  22:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brenda, my best advice is to contact the Seattle Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center http://www.cancercenter.com/press-center/seattle-fact-sheet.cfm , part of the Cancer Treatment Centers of America if you are looking for alternative treatments locally. Also take a look at the alternative cancer clinic list at http://cancertutor.com/Other/Clinics.html , there is at least one named http://anoasisofhealing.com/ that lists the Simoncini protocol as an option, but it is in Arizona. Also, I think the most intriguing cancer treatment protocol is at http://cancerprotocol.grouppekurosawa.com/ I am hoping and praying for your speedy and complete recovery.
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Steven

80 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2008 :  02:41:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brenda,

Perhaps you should try this alternative treatment:

http://www.treat-cancer.nl/
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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2008 :  20:16:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda

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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2008 :  20:26:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda




Hi Brenda,
sorry something went wrong with the previous message.
Here is to contact Dr. Simoncini

E-mail: t.simoncini@alice.it



Cell. (+39) 335294480


Wish you all the best,

Fanta.
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mark12

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2008 :  23:51:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My doctor had prescribed me with rhabeprazole, a sodium carbonate pill to decrease acidity, it was really good and working well!
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M P SHANKLAND

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2010 :  07:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya all my mum died from cancer when i was six months old ..so ive had to live with the fact that it can happen to any one at any time ..
most of all i have a very open mind ive seen a UFO
AND MY SISTER HAS SEEN a ghost ..and im also very aware that the big pharma companys like huge profits from drugs that they can patent
sodium of bicarb is from nature so can not be patented ..=no profite
when u look at the bigger picture the ruleing elite dont want to find a cure for cancer it keeps the numbers down =1 in 4 americans die from cancer and i think it's 1 in 3 canadians they also made AIDS and swine flu well the CIA did .
i found this article on the web http://www.jbjs.org.uk/cgi/reprint/46-B/4/746.pdf
any one who has a open mind should look at this site on here is all about the bigger picture http://www.projectcamelot.org/interviews.html
and this form the shen clinic I.O.W http://www.theshenclinic.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22&Itemid=26&lang=en
ps sorry if i have come along and said any thing to upset ppl but u have to follow your heart which i do take care all

Edited by - M P SHANKLAND on 01/02/2010 07:46:03
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Goddess

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2010 :  12:48:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fanta

quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda




Hi Brenda,
sorry something went wrong with the previous message.
Here is to contact Dr. Simoncini

E-mail: t.simoncini@alice.it



Cell. (+39) 335294480


Wish you all the best,

Fanta.


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Goddess

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2010 :  12:54:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Fanta,
I had also considered going to see Dr. Simoncini, but it is a little far from Florida. I am still doing research and found another site that is all natural and I really like the site. It is:
Nature Works Best
Dr. Huber's site out in Arizona.
Look it up and good luck to you. I was also diagnosed with breast cancer and I decided not to go the routine of chemo, etc.



quote:
Originally posted by Goddess

quote:
Originally posted by Fanta

quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda




Hi Brenda,
sorry something went wrong with the previous message.
Here is to contact Dr. Simoncini

E-mail: t.simoncini@alice.it



Cell. (+39) 335294480


Wish you all the best,

Fanta.




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Goddess

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2010 :  13:01:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Brenda,
Sent the message to Fanta, sorry about that, I wanted to send you the message here it is:

Dear Fanta,
I had also considered going to see Dr. Simoncini, but it is a little far from Florida. I am still doing research and found another site that is all natural and I really like the site. It is:
Nature Works Best
Dr. Huber's site out in Arizona.
Look it up and good luck to you. I was also diagnosed with breast cancer and I decided not to go the routine of chemo, etc.







Dear
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda

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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2010 :  18:32:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For Brenda:

There are some testimonials here about success treating breast cancer naturally using Radiation Hormesis:

http://www.nighthawkminerals.com/testimonials.html#breastcancer

http://www.nighthawkminerals.com/testimonials.html#breastcancer2

Wishing you the best,
Grace2Go


quote:
Originally posted by Goddess

Dear Brenda,
Sent the message to Fanta, sorry about that, I wanted to send you the message here it is:

Dear Fanta,
I had also considered going to see Dr. Simoncini, but it is a little far from Florida. I am still doing research and found another site that is all natural and I really like the site. It is:
Nature Works Best
Dr. Huber's site out in Arizona.
Look it up and good luck to you. I was also diagnosed with breast cancer and I decided not to go the routine of chemo, etc.







Dear
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda

I just heard of Dr. Simoncin two weeks ago. I cannot reach him but what i do want is to find someone here in the USA to help me. Im willing to try the Soduim Bicarbonate my cancer has spread and i need help this is the second time ive had breast cancer its worse now i need help. Chemo does not work i did radition it was worse i will not EVER do it again. Do any of you know a Dr. or Natural Dr. who will help???? I live in washington state HELP Brenda



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Marylou_II

Peru
1 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2010 :  21:56:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi:
I am a new user and hope I can help and get help. Less than a year ago I was diagnosed with two primary cancers both stage 2. The first one was a cervical cancer, it was gone after chemo and radiotherapy. I am now with my follow ups and doing fine. During these treatments I had this horrible metal taste in my mouth so I would use Sodium Bicarbonate for that terrible taste and could eat very well.
The second cancer broke out a few weeks after the first tumor was gone, this time it was Breast Cancer ER +92 positive, PR + Her2NEU Negative. For safety reasons I had a radical mastectomy and dissection of three lymph nodes and I am now doing very well.
Since diagnosed with my first cancer I had been taking Sodium Bicarbonate dissolved in water this as simple drinking water during the day as I had to have a heavy liquid intake. My original dose was 40 grams in 4 glasses of water and as many times a day as required which could reach a max of 180 grams a day. I was fine with it.
With my breast cancer I first measured my pH with the usual strips. It was 6 thus acid, so I began using 250 grams a day. I did not accept chemo, radio, AIs or any others, I simply said no. Now my pH is 8.2 as measured yesterday but I am taking 300 grams of Sodium Bicarbonate per day. I have also been taking Iodine Therapy [not radioactive] and Ozone Therapy for a year and since my first cancer. Now my ER is great and no problems or need of other therapies.
When I measure my pH next week if I am over 8.5 I will lower the dose from 300 to 200 grams, I am a heavy fluid drinker.
Today I had my blood work done and got the results this late afternoon, my pH was confirmed at 8,2 the rest of the tests are fine and the doctor was surprised how well I am doing. I have not told any in my oncology team that I am having those three natural treatments.
The breast surgeon said he wished he had known I would no so well and thus spare my breast, but I told him I am fine with it though I did not want a reconstruction.
I have assumed the responsibility over my health issues and taken control of my life. I am satisfied.

Regards to all.

Marylou_II
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baczek

2 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2010 :  15:02:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am on active surveilance for prostate cancer.
My PSA readings in last year were 8.5, 9.5, 9.54, 10.5, 12.5, 10.5 and 9.0.
I had two biopsies 10 core each, both negative, but with high grade PIN and ASAP.
I have used super curcumin, ESSIAC tea and recently sodium bicarbonate orally. The recent drop in PSA reading (this from 12.5 to 10.5 and from 10.5 to 9) both happened after 5 day sessions of sodium bicarbonate 2 teespoons twice a day.
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baczek

2 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2010 :  17:26:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Halo Marylou, you have mentioned that you used 250 gram of baking soda a day.
That seems like a lot - it is about 1 cup or 100 teaspoons of soda.
I have used just 4-6 teaspoons a day with 1 liter of water plus alkalizing diet, and my urine pH was 8.2. By the way, normal urine pH is between 5 and 6, depends on your diet. You may change it by drinking baking soda, but that doesn't mean your blood and other internal fluids will change to alkaline too. Prostate is the organ urine is passing through, but I don't understand how urine alkality will affect breast cancer.
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racha

Canada
1 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2010 :  04:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
i just found this forum. looking for advice and real experience with sodium bicarbonate. my father has colon cancer. part of the tumor is outside the rectum. no metastasis. blood in the stool. lot of pain. he cant sit and very painful to walk. pains goes down to his leg. he is scheduled for first chimio in 3 weeks. i just started him on one tsp of sodium bicarbonate twice a day but i'm very scraed it could cause problems. he has high creatinine. should i stop or continue with the sodium bicarbonate? your help is much appreciated. any suggestions what other alternative solution out there?
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Grace2Go

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2010 :  11:38:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello racha,

The forum topic here titled "Alka V6" has information on an alternative solution that's worth your time to check out.

Here is a link to the research about it, and there are many testimonials about using it for various types of cancer.

http://www.orizonresearch.com/images/research.pdf
http://www.orizonresearch.com

The Alka V-6 can be taken internally and used on external tumors as well, which targets the cancer from both directions.

Wishing the best for your Dad,
Grace2Go


quote:
Originally posted by racha

Hi,
i just found this forum. looking for advice and real experience with sodium bicarbonate. my father has colon cancer. part of the tumor is outside the rectum. no metastasis. blood in the stool. lot of pain. he cant sit and very painful to walk. pains goes down to his leg. he is scheduled for first chimio in 3 weeks. i just started him on one tsp of sodium bicarbonate twice a day but i'm very scraed it could cause problems. he has high creatinine. should i stop or continue with the sodium bicarbonate? your help is much appreciated. any suggestions what other alternative solution out there?

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Fanta

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2010 :  07:39:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To contact Dr. Simoncini:


http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/contact.html


e-mail: t.simoncini@alice.it


http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

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