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Allie
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 Posted - 08/17/2008 : 00:12:07
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To Thanks01,
I don't mind at all receiving your very well-intentioned advice.
Yes, saying "case closed" may not be realistic. I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Anyway, it's a new chapter, and I'm all for that!
As for my diet, I had an undiagnosed ameba for many years, and it left me extremely food sensitive. I think my enzyme supply just ran out from trying to deal with the ameba for so long; and possibly, my immune system was compromised. Basically, all cooked food makes me sick. Partly because of that, and additionally out of personal belief, I've been vegan for over 21 years, nearly 100% raw during all that time.
I do try to eat as great a variety as possible: lots of fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds, plus raw wheat germ, flax seed, and a regular B12 supplement.
I truly can't remember the last time I ate anything with processed sugar - or even honey or date sugar, etc. I understand there is some debate over whether fruit is good for people to eat, but I'm definitely in the camp of people who believe fruit is a most excellent and healthful category of food. Whatever the case, I have to eat something, and my diet is limited enough as it is!
My father had many skin precancers and possibly some skin cancers. And he loved working outside. I think he passed both traits on to me. My husband and I have a small fruit and palm farm, and we work outside almost everyday. Only he's part injun, and I'm not! I've always been a believer in Vitamin D from the sun, and I kind of thought my diet would protect me from the bad effects of it. OOPS!
Now I wear a hat all the time, and usually a long sleeve shirt.
Only the spot on my nose has been intensifying and retreating. The other spots have been consistently in retreat since beginning the eggplant treatment, thank goodness! I think the nose spot was responding to either an infection or applications of tea tree oil or both. Maybe I should have been more open to trying a little vinegar just on my nose to stave off infection, instead of relying on the tea tree oil.
I don't know.
I'm glad to hear you're doing well yourself with the eggplant mix. I believe there may be many natural remedies, many answers out there that are unfortunately being overlooked by "modern" medicine. Maybe by communicating together we can find some answers of our own. I hope so.
Onward through the fog. And best in your quest too!
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JimL
USA
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Posted - 09/21/2008 : 16:42:30
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Hi All.. I'm New to the forum but have been reading all that I can absorb on this subject of shin cancer.
My History. I'm 63 and have spent most of my time outdoors. 4 years ago I did a Efudex treatment on my face. Now finding about 1/2 a left over tube I decided to clear up several remaining spots on my face that have been bothering me. I am into that treatment about 11 days and it's going OK.
I found this forum when I was looking for side effects to the Efudex that might effect my kidney. I lost one to tubal cancer a year ago and can't afford to lose the remaining one. I have battled bladder cancer for more than ten years.
I went to Vitamin Cottage and found All I needed for the EV treatment and all except the Retin-A for the "DMSO/Vitamin C/Retin-A" sauce.
4oz. liquid DMSO 99.9% pure $10.15 (locked up in a cabinet and had to ask for that),
pure vitamin C powder (ascorbic acid) $4.50 - 1/2 lb.@ $10lb bulk ,
4 oz. NOW Orange oil $5.39 (pure and cold pressed),
Eggplant,
Raw unprocessed 5% Apple Cider Vinager,
Aloe gell for when I need some relief.
So far $31.72 without the Retin-A
This morning I applied some Orange oil to both of my fore arms and WHOMEVER made the statement about "Lighting Up Like a Christmas tree" is right on!! I have about 50 Bright white spots on my two arms.
My EV sauce is cooking in the refrigerator for another several days and I am anxious to see what that will do for my arms. When I can get some Retin-A I plan to try each treatment on separate arms.
I wonder what adding some Vit. C to the EV sauce would do seeing that it is also water soluble and also an acid? |
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2008 : 21:59:06
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JimL, welcome to the forum! Orange oil is not subtle as you found out. It is probably best to start with a small area and see what happens. The white spots are a different reaction from any I had, mine turned red. Are they gone yet? In my experience using orange oil is a lot like using Efudex, it can take weeks to work and it has unpleasant side effects. But you know it is busy doing something.
I would not worry too much about the acidity impact of vitamin C on the EV sauce. A recent study on a Curaderm like product Zycure used salicylic acid (aspirin) with good results. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443 |
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AliceCarmel
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2008 : 14:27:18
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A question from reading the Eggplant skin cancer cure book which is available used from Amazon---Dr. Bill Cham says that whole eggplant/eating eggplant is not a cancer cure because there are natural substances in the flesh or skin of the eggplant which counteract the anti-cancer glycosides which are in the seeds. There is a clinical trial going on for treatment of internal cancers with internal administration of the BEC5, but he doesn't say where. Also, some Wikipedia articles say that the glycosides in plants from the deadly nightshade family such as eggplant and potatoes are sometimes cardiotoxic and immunosuppressive.
So he doesn't advise eating a lot of eggplant. |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 09:49:00
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There is no doubt that curaderm does have an effect of some skin cancers but it is far from what Dr. Cham and his company make claims of and I know this by using the stuff for over 6 months with mediocre success.
He uses very fuzzy and vague proof and his claims about success rate ( based upon myself and other people on the net that had less than stellar results) are not possibly true.
Don't you find it odd that he fails to mention where the "clinical study " is going on at.
Basically at this point I just don't have a lot of trust or faith in this guy or his motives..
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marsha
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 21:13:59
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| WEll I don't know how you used the cream.I have gotten rid of basil cell all over my face. I have the pictures but I don't know how to put them up here. I have a new spot on the side of my nose right below where I had moes surgery, the skin has peeled off and I can see all the little cancer spots. For curaderm to work you have to at least do it 4 to 7 times a day.The scc on my nostril finally healed. It dose have a scar, but I think I would have lost my whole nostril with moes surgery. I have used dmso with it maybe 6 times. I take a bunch of different vitamins,calaguala,and am trying to keep my ph up. I haven't felt this good in a year. I also walk 2 to 6 miles a day,get up at 4 or 5. I'm broke and my nose is half gone but I feel great. |
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dan
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 22:02:01
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Hi Marsha,
I used it as instructed by the company when I bought it (6 bottles) @ 2 years ago. At that time they were saying twice a day. I went to their site after your post and see they are saying at least twice and up to 10 times a day now... Ugh!
Maybe if you apply more often each day it works. I can attest twice a day did not work for me.
Please post the before and after pics...
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Mark
35 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2008 : 03:38:42
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Tom -
Did you ever get my email with the info? I've sent it to 2 different addresses about 3-4 times with no response from you so far. Just in case, here is the web site you were asking for:
www.southbaytotalhealth.com
for others, im not in connection with this company or web site, i just really believe in going to see a natural medicine doctor. This happens to be one example. I got great results.
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chairos
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2008 : 14:19:42
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| I hope i am posting in correct place...i was daiagnosed w bcc a month ago...in Jobs words my fears were realized..for years i worried off and on about a spot between my lip and nose...it would flare up, even bleed at times, and then just sort of settled and was indented..and pink, but under skin...a friend of mine had a much smaller pearly spot which required 14 stitches...no scarring....but i did not have insurance,and just buried the fear..it seems almost symbolic...well after the dr. said he was sure it was bcc. and it required surgery and plastic surgery...it is a bad place to have it...he said my face would never be the same...and when i asked of alternative treatments..he said there were none successful that he knew of. I was aquainted with your web site, as i had been worrying and researching for some time...i went to it immediately.... first i rubbed the area aggressivly with baking soda,and left it on as a paste...then i made the eggplant vinegar mix...i applied the paste,and left it on over night....the area started opening up,and a good amount of blood seemed to pour out.. two weeks later other areas near my lip started opening up.and swelling....then the swelling and opening up moved to the other side of my mouth...i have taken some pictures.. now i have curaderm as well and have used it... presently. there are scabs just above my lips going up towards my nose... i am very grateful for this forum,as it is informative and encouraging...i want to show the dr.the progress with these natural ways.. thank you so much for whoever posted"what to exspect from the healing process" like that person said somehow all is in Gods hands..and he leads us ... i have found kindred souls and much support on this site.... also i would like to mention a herb a friend in Brazil told me that it helped him out greatly w skin cancer..i found it to be very soothing and believe it is helping too..the name for it in Brazil is" assa peixe" you may google it...make a tea..let it steep a few minutes,and apply liquid w cotton and let it soak in.. |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2008 : 23:39:25
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In regards to the doctors comments "never be the same" I would recommend a second or third opinion from a well respected plastic surgeon. They work miracles.
This is not to say that you can't overcome on your own possibly.. There are many approaches and some discussed here do have a certain amount of success.
Because of the location, I would not recommend bloodroot paste.
I would also recommend speaking to the folks at Thermosurgery.com.. I am very interested in their system and I hope that what the inventor Gene Hedin is saying there is true. |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2008 : 23:40:35
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Hi Mark,
Yes I did thank you so much..I will be speaking to him soon! |
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oggie
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2008 : 14:00:59
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Hi. Mostly due to this forum, I purchased Curaderm online. Loooong story short, they stole my money.  I have never received the product, I emailed several times, tried to engage their "live chat" (totally dead as far as I can tell), and called the U.S.-based phone number. I received one email reply to all of this saying oops it had never been shipped but it wasn't our fault. Will ship from the London warehouse (??) and send tracking number...
Which, of course they never did. Sorry for the rant, but I want it to be known they are indeed a scam. If you ever received product, good for you, but you aren't likely to again. $100 down the drain. |
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thanks01
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2008 : 21:04:21
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| Someone else can correct me, but I thought there was some change about Curaderm and the FDA - no longer allowed, etc. in the U.S. So this could be part of the problem. And then, ordering overseas may have some problems of its own. If the charge has gone against your Credit Card, I think you can apply to the Credit Card people to get the charge reversed. Again, not sure. Best of luck. |
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Hiersolo
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2009 : 20:21:03
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I refer to your comment that Dr Cham uses very fuzzy and vague proof and his claims about success rates are not possibly true. I suggest you visit the institutional website www.curadermbec5global.com and read the entire contents, including the list of publications. I am certain that you will agree that the three decades of research which have led to Curaderm BEC5 now being available to the public are beyond reproach.
You state that Dr Bill Cham has lost his license to practice medicine in New York in 1995 for sexually harassing two radiation technicians and that this is an indicator of his honesty and virtue. Accordingly you don't have a lot of trust or faith in this guy or his motives..... "IMO he seems to be more of a scam than Cham". For your information Dr Bill Elliot Cham Ph.D. the inventor of Curaderm has never practiced in the USA. You are referring to a completely different person, a Dr William C. Cham MD, who has indeed lost his license to practice medicine in New York in 1995. Dr William C Cham is not related to Dr Bill Elliot Cham.
Your irresponsible action has put yourself in a libellous position .You have misinformed the public and I would suggest you do a complete retraction of your comments and send on an apology to Dr Bill Cham.
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2009 : 01:18:15
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Removed...
I got the information from another site stating the same story. I have removed the statement which was not the basis for why I KNOW Curaderm is not what he claims it is. There was no purposeful intent to slander, and it was not the crux of why I don't have faith in Dr. Cham or Curaderm. I was under the impression it was the same Doc. It appears this is not the case and for that I do apologize.
I stand by everything else I said. If this isn't about money why is it so expensive? It can't cost more than a few dollars a bottle to make. I spent hundreds of dollars on the so called "cure" and yes it did do something, so do a lot of other things mentioned here on this site but it did not eradicate any of my BCC's as is the case with other people on this site. I used it for months with no final success. If you know where the clinical trials were ran lets hear about it and see the results. Anything other than inconclusive I challenge as I am living proof the stuff does not work as claimed. |
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harley
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Posted - 03/12/2009 : 09:47:41
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| I have been treating a few spots of AK with just vinegar and then with a vinegar/eggplant mix along with vinegar internally. I tried this for about 6 weeks and noticed a little improvement. So, I read the post on orange oil and tried some on a spot on my arm and just used the oil there while continuing with the eggplant mix on the other spots as a controlled test. Three days later, I wnet to rub more oil into the spot and the scab came right off. That was about a week ago and now you can not see where it was. I have a more prominent AK on my scalp and have been applyin gfor about a week and starting to see shrinking of scab..will continue for a little longer and go back to eggpplant mix and see how that works. I have been on a very strict diet as well, lots of organics, juicing, etc |
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anivoc
449 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2009 : 10:38:02
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Harley
Congratulations!
RE: Vinegar and eggplant. After months of trying the EV mix I concluded that the EV mix in itself doesn't work. A lot of people assume that the active ingredient in Sunspot ES and Curaderm is in common eggplant that we can buy at the store. Not the case, a completely different animal though in the eggplant family.
IMO the EV mixture is an exercise in futility.
RE: Vinegar and orange oil
I am sure vinegar is helpful. Though I have many AK's that I have not yet knocked out using just vinegar, I do have one that was on the back of my neck that I did eradicate with just vinegar. Not sure why that one went away and I can't get the others to. I have used orange oil before but not in tandem with the vinegar. I wipe vinegar on my face every day after I shower in the morning. It lites me up like a Christmas tree for about 30 minutes.
I will give your experiment a try and let you know how it did. Who knows maybe you have stumbled on the new protocol for knocking out AK's...
That's what this forum is all about. Just regular people helping people try and find a reasonable and affordable way to help our bodies overcome these various shin lesions we all face here.
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2009 : 01:00:58
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Harley, thanks for the post! What brand/type of orange oil did you use?
Also, it has taken me more than a month to heal some of my lesions with orange oil. I might of given up except I had taken pictures along the way that clearly showed healing progress, something that would not have been obvious without the photos to compare. Over a long term (years), the treated areas have stayed healed for me. Successful long term healing may be the result of many factors such as diet and supplements. It looks like you are on the right track in that regard. I'm glad you found something that worked for you. |
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harley
4 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2009 : 13:04:47
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| I am using the NOW brand organic orange oil..I believe another member had mentioned it. This morning my fiancee' asked to look at the spot on my scalp and thought she saw something different and got nervous..she did..she said it looks a lot better and smaller. I guess I'll continue with the oil for a another week maybe - going to the dermatoligist this friday for a second opinion and to just monitor. I was applying the oil 3 times a day so I think I will continue and start using it on one other AK. I stopped the EV application for now and maybe go back after another week but as long as the oil is working, I'll continue. |
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mindy
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 20:03:27
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Originally posted by fforest
I would like to share my experience with Eggplant as a treatment for skin cancer...This information is very new so I will add more later...This treatment needs more testing before it can say this is a cure or on the A list of treatments...
As people on this forum know I have been raving about sunspot ES cream for a while...While I still like sunspot ES cream I have grown unhappy with its limitations...1 It does not penetrate the skin as good as I would like with out dmso..2 It only works where applied...3 You can only buy it by mail order..4 It crust up on the skin easy...
Doing some research on glycoalkaloids found in sunspot.....I read this here * Eggplant or aubergine (Solanum melongena) has been examined, and has been shown to contain the exact replica of BEC. This means that a fruit, which is eaten as a vegetable throughout the world, contains BEC. Each eggplant contains 7 to 25 mg of BEC per 100 grams of fruit. Eggplant contain more BEC than Curaderm.
http://www.cura-care.com/curaderm-safety.htm
I then read this article here... http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/melanoma.html
Which gave me the idea to make a poultice out of the eggplant and apply it to the skin....I think the vinegar may help release the glycoalkaloids I am not sure really all I know is that it worked for me...
I got a eggplant and cut it up and put it in the blender.I then put in a mostly vinegar and some water and blended..Only add as much liquid as needed because you want the mix thick with some texture...
If you blend it to much it turns into liquid...
I have had some very nasty bloody lesions on my head..Swollen very nasty things..Plus a good bit of skin cancer on my face..
I applied the eggplant to my head and face and let it sit for 2-3 hours and massaged the eggplant into my lesions...The lesions let off a good bit of heat...The swelling went way way down and all the bloody cancer spots looked 100% better within hours..I have been doing this every day for about 5 days.....All my skin conditions are looking so much better that I hope to not be posing here any more....
The glycoalkaloids in the eggplant seem to get into the skin much better than with the sunspot cream even though the eggplant poulitce is not as strong(Note sunpsot cream is great stuff and can be used were needed after you use the eggplant}...This seems to make for a nicer healing and a nice clean crusting of the cancer spots...
I want to say I have been treating my cancer spots with orange oil for a few weeks before this so maybe the orange oil had already done some heavy lifting before I applied the eggplant...
I like the action of the orange oil on my skin cancer,it penetrates the skin wonderfully and seem to do some nice work cleaning up the cancer but I found the orange oil lacking in the ability to finish the job..The orange oil has very poor pulling action on the cancer...It does a good job identifying the cancer patches on the skin and starting to heal them but I really felt the orange oil needs some help and maybe that help will come from eggplant...
The eggplant and the orange oil have the huge advantage over other things is you can apply then every where and let them find the skin cancer...Skin cancer loves to hide and if you have a little skin cancer their is a good chance you have a bit more you do not see...
I would love some feedback on this treatment from other people...One really great thing folks is the eggplant hardly hurts at all its cheap and easy to apply....
See Below for full report....
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mindy
USA
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 20:21:27
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| i have been treating squamous cell cancers for 6 years with a dr i have had approx.70 cut out i have also treated them myself with c-herb not so pleasant... they just keep coming i still have 60 or so to go. a few of the places have been basal cell .i have tried efudex i wont use that again where do i go from here please help |
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RidgebackDogs
USA
103 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 22:09:02
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Hi Mindy,
Check out this thread on petty spurge (the one Dan is talking about that is in clinical trials is Peplin - u can google that)
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=278
Hey fforrest what happened w/the eggplant treatments you were doing in this post that Mindy copied?
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Heirsolo
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 01:34:06
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Originally posted by anivoc
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I got the information from another site stating the same story. I have removed the statement which was not the basis for why I KNOW Curaderm is not what he claims it is. There was no purposeful intent to slander, and it was not the crux of why I don't have faith in Dr. Cham or Curaderm. I was under the impression it was the same Doc. It appears this is not the case and for that I do apologize.
I stand by everything else I said. If this isn't about money why is it so expensive? It can't cost more than a few dollars a bottle to make. I spent hundreds of dollars on the so called "cure" and yes it did do something, so do a lot of other things mentioned here on this site but it did not eradicate any of my BCC's as is the case with other people on this site. I used it for months with no final success. If you know where the clinical trials were ran lets hear about it and see the results. Anything other than inconclusive I challenge as I am living proof the stuff does not work as claimed.
Here is some information regarding pricing of Curaderm BEC5. It costs over US$200 million to US$1 billion to develop a treatment before it can be commercialized and it can take over 15 years to establish the treatment.
Research with BEC and Curaderm BEC5 have been going on for three decades.
The alternative treatments for skin cancer are much more expensive than Curaderm
I addition, the purified active ingredients in Curaderm are very expensive. I refer to an independent site that sells the active ingredients http://www.glycomix.co.uk/prices_usa.htm You will note that 1mg of solasonine and solamargine cost US$56. One tube of Curaderm BEC5 contains 1mg of these glycoalkaloids (BEC). So the cost of the active ingredient in 1 tube of Curaderm BEC5 alone is in the order of US$56.
Regarding the results of the clinical trial, please visit www.curadermbec5global.com and look at subsection Research Publications ->->-> Publications/Medical Research. The article of Punjabi et al describes the Multicenter Clinical Trial that was conducted at 10 independent hospitals in the United Kingdom. In their study they have named the product Zycure which is actually Curaderm BEC5. Dr Cham did supply the medication cream BEC5 to the hospitals who used this product in their clinical trials. The article of Punjabi et al, published in the International Journal of Dermatology in 2008 states that a follow-up period of treated patients after 1 year, 78% had no recurrence and this was with patients treated for 8 weeks only. Identical data was obtained by Dr Cham in the 1980s. In addition, he showed that if patients were treated for 13 weeks then virtually a 100% success rate was obtained.
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rdp
USA
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Posted - 08/13/2009 : 18:58:27
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what a great site, just registerd , i have been diagnosed with the
Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Lip , this is a great site, i would like to know or ask if the egplant ,orange oil treatmant would work on the lip, thank you in advance)seems like it would be difficult , but ill try anything
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 01:04:03
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| Welcome rdp! These treatments seem to work well for some and not for others. All you can do is give it a try if you are comfortable taking the risks. Although I'm a big fan of topical orange oil, it seems like treating a lip would be extra painful. Expect 20 minutes of intense pain for each orange oil treatment, after which the pain subsides rather completely. The eggplant vinegar remedy should be easy to try. Topical pancreatin enzymes with aloe vera and baking soda instead of ammonia is something else to consider. |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:42:08
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| i have been using orange oil only with a q tip for 21 day now on my lower lip, its looking great! |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:46:14
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| it does not burn my lip, just a little, when i do the eggplant, do i grind up the skin also, or just the insides? |
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rdp
USA
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Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:49:45
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| i meant 1 day on my lip,lol, thats it ,one day and its looking great) |
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 00:19:35
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| rdp, it sounds like you are off to a terrific start. It is nice to know the pain was minimal with orange oil on a lip with SCC. Please keep us updated. As for the eggplant, when I made some, I used both peel and insides. (But I might have it wrong.) |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 13:41:54
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| 3RD DAY OF USING JUST ORANGE OIL FROMM THE NUTRITION STORE,, MAN ITS ABOUT CLEARD UP. HAD A LITTLE FLAKE FALL OFF LAST NIGHT, NOT EVEN PUTTING ANYMORE ON, I SWEAR , THAT STUFF DOES WONDERS) |
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 21:56:02
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rdp, glad to hear the good news! What brand of orange oil are you using? Also, for my curiosity if you don't mind, what treatment options did your doctor suggest?
I would plan on applying for a few weeks even after it seems healed just to be sure. One good thing about orange oil is that it penetrates deeply and squamous cells are near the surface, so it may be a perfect treatment for you. I hope the progress continues. |
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rdp
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 05:48:09
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the dr recomendes moes treatment, set for the 27th, 1600 to 2500 dollars, i dont have the money , i hope this works for me, just wondering if it might come back, my lip is so much better)
the brand of orange oil is( now ) |
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 22:37:25
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| In my experience topical orange oil has been amazing. It does not seem to lose its effectiveness even on previously treated lesions. I have had some lesions come back after a few months, probably because I did not follow through well, but a second treatment has always worked so far if the first did not complete the job. I would guess the first treatment is 90% effective, a second treatment if needed so far is 100% effective. |
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Shafah
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Posted - 09/10/2009 : 15:33:53
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rdp,
That's great to hear that orange oil worked on your scc on your lip!
A question to everyone in here, would this also work on a bcc on the chest?
I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. |
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dan
526 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2009 : 11:26:54
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| I think orange oil would work on a bcc but expect it to take up to about 4 weeks before you see conclusive progress. When starting any topical treatment, take a reference picture so you can compare progress objectively in a few weeks. That made a difference for me as I was ready to give up but the pictures became a big encouragement to keep going. |
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BlondeAmbition3
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2009 : 18:25:04
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Originally posted by dan
JimL, welcome to the forum! Orange oil is not subtle as you found out. It is probably best to start with a small area and see what happens. The white spots are a different reaction from any I had, mine turned red. Are they gone yet? In my experience using orange oil is a lot like using Efudex, it can take weeks to work and it has unpleasant side effects. But you know it is busy doing something.
I would not worry too much about the acidity impact of vitamin C on the EV sauce. A recent study on a Curaderm like product Zycure used salicylic acid (aspirin) with good results. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443
** the Orange Oil causes 'white spots' to light up on my scalp also! ** |
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rdp
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:31:24
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just to let everyone know, since my last post, i have been putting orange oil on my lip evryday and it is completly gone, it has a little indention on my lip , but its dissapearing slowly))
this site saved me alot of money,lol the moes surgery is what my doc recomended, and said it would take a year to heal my lip, this only took about 1 month))
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christof66
Australia
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 23:50:34
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Originally posted by sammy
Don, perhaps a "sleep mask" would keep the mixture from running into your eyes. I'm sure you could find them on the Internet. I bought one eons ago from TravelSmith when I was flying between Atlanta & London. It does fit snugly, but doesn't bind and it is made of soft material so it won't leave marks on your face. I just don't know if they are still available. So glad this is working for you.
You could try the Hibermate http://www.hibermate.com sleep mask, that might help. |
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Luke1
Australia
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Posted - 01/10/2010 : 13:47:53
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Christof66
Do you know where (in Australia) I could buy any eggplant cremes or orange oil?
Regards |
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Neil
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Posted - 02/08/2010 : 08:58:54
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Karitosis on forearms plus a spot biopsied as basil cell. Using eggplant w/ a little vinegar and GARLIC. Shall report later on results. Before adding the vinegar and garlic, used straight eggplant for three days. From that it looked better already.
Using the eggplant by itself was in 1/4 " slices held on w/ tape. (Shave skin first so tape will come off easier.) Now mashing up the plant including the seeds (essence is there) using common kitchen tools. Holding that in w/ big, barge shaped BandAids.
Can't trust many dermatologists. They want to cut, cut, cut. Have to use them though as middlemen to obtain biopsy so you know what you have, and they can burn off the karitosis.
(Many individual MD practitioners now have huge staffs to support and many are adding costly nurse practitioners or medical assistants -- not nurses. It is actually these folks that often see the patients in lieu of the MD and half the time these specialists seem not to know didley squat.)
Something sounds very right to me about the curative results on farm animals from the nightshade Devil Apple. Because of that I may give Curaderm a try later, even though the results on others have been reported as being uneven, (but with enough pluses there to be encouraging).
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polly
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 09:32:40
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| I have "age spots" on my hands. They are brown and slightly raised. Will any of the mentioned remedies work to remove them? |
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thanks01
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 11:17:45
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You might use the search function on "pancreatin," something Dan has been recommending off and on. I used a paste made of a pancreatin capsule (from Swanson Health) and some common hand lotion and this seemed to be successful in removing something like what you describe. I applied the paste once a day, in the AM. Took some months, but painless and seems to be gone.
As for the lesion, it was on the back of my hand, brownish-purple, slightly raised, about 1/2 inch long. After I had been treating it for some time and it was a lot better, I showed it to "the derm" at a regular checkup and he dismissed it quickly as "a wart" He probably knows more about warts than I do. The only other thing I had seen like this was a smaller one on my wrist the year before, when I was using the eggplant treatment on my face for BCC, and the item on my wrist disappeared completely using eggplant and pancreatin mixed, in hand lotion. That is what encouraged me to proceed with the larger one that came later, and this seems to have worked.
I describe the lesion here a little because, like all on this forum, I want to stress that you should not overlook the possibility of REAL cancer, being specially watchful for the sinister melanoma. Don't just take these skin problems for granted as "age spots," etc. Best of luck.
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Neil
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Posted - 03/01/2010 : 10:46:18
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By way of a progress report -- nothing conclusive yet.: Both forearms in question. One had history of BC and was cut out years ago. Other recently biopsied w/ BC by a derma. I have been working on both forearms for 3 wks. Applying multiple curatives over the course of each day as follows:
1A. A week with NOW orange oil which brought up an archipelligo of 1/8" diam. red spots along both arms.
A vastly experienced MD, not the derma., said stop the orange oil & make an apt. to burn or freeze off the one larger spot previously biopsied as BC. He said it was surficial & could be taken out that way. So I stopped the orange oil and on my own started…
1B. Bathing arms in Hydrogen peroxide as I've read elsewhere that Big C doesn't like oxygen. Red spot results appear same as with orange oil. Noticed that with either orange oil or H2O2, shortly after application I get the feeling in the arms of that realm of sensation somewhere between tingling and stinging -- not unpleasant but not pleasant either. I have the hunch that it is an indicator of something good happening.
(The apt. to burn or freeze off by the MD is 3 weeks away.)
2. When the tingling/stinging becomes too bothersome, I rub on aloe-vera gel which soothes it. I also use that gel occasionally over the course of the day and get a good energetic feeling in the skin. The aloe may act as a rubifacient (bring more blood to epidermis), I don't know.
3. I rub on Raspex raspberry skin gell. Good raps on this from another of Dan's forums.
4. Still putting on my 1/4 " slices of eggplant. I score them lightly first with a fork cross-hatched. Held on w/ Ace type bandage.
Intelligent feedback on any of this appreciated.
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dan
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 00:56:49
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Hi Neil, thanks for the interesting progress report. I like the multiple approaches. Of the five things mentioned (orange oil, hydrogen peroxide, aloe vera gel, Raspex raspberry gel, and eggplant), I think the one with probably the most horsepower is orange oil. But I understand that it's difficult to go against the advice of a doctor you trust. I found the Now orange oil product was not as powerful as organic food grade d-limonene cleaners. It took me around 4 weeks before I saw improvement using the stronger topical d-limonene cleaner.
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/12/3/259.pdf
Another thing I could see adding to the mix is pancreatin enzymes, either from SupraClens contact lens cleaner or open a dietary supplement capsule and mix with the other ingredients. |
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Neil
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 07:24:41
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Dan. Thanks very much on your feedback and the heads-up and the link on d-limonene. The article on he link sounds very professional and encouraging on the use of this. I may try it topically on the arms. After all, the MD with extensive knowledge/experience that I noted may not know everything especially in the area of alternative medicine. I'll also look into pancreatin enzymes with the view toward using it as well.
As an aside, the very cost-effective d-limonene caps have been shown to give relief for Gastroesophageal Reflux (GERD), or serious recurring heartburn. My wife has this and takes very costly prescription Nexium. I'll show her this.
Amazing the catch-up MD's have to do. But being joined at the hip with big pharma as they are, I won't hold my breath. One just has to make an end-run around this establishment -- and I have to say that it's forums like yours that help block interference.
Somewhere in researching the d-limonene I ran across the benefits of ingesting citrus peal. Sounds to me like the old "zest" of gourmet cooking.
Thanks again Sir.
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k9luv
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2011 : 14:08:54
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Originally posted by fforest
If any one knows of a 100% pure source for D-limonene please post..The citri-solv was the purest orange oil I could find at a store near me...
Butylated Hydroxyanisole cant be all bad if they put it in food..It sound like reading this that it has good things and bad things about it...
http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa082101a.htm
Hi,
There's a product called Natural EsophaGuard from LEF.org that is 98.5% d-limonene.
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LoricaLady
USA
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Posted - 08/14/2011 : 10:00:02
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About 2 months ago I discovered a little flesh colored bump on my forehead. How long it had been there I have no idea since I wear bangs and generally don't much look at that area, plus it was flesh colored. It was about the size of 1/2 of a good sized pea. It was kind of crusty on top and the surrounding area was kind of crusty too. Since then I have seen on the net that the bump matched the description of a possibly precancerous condition.
I tried iodine & hydrogen peroxide & they had no impact at all.
Not to get religious, but to give credit where credit is due, I prayed about it and a night or so later when I was not even thinking about it I felt YHWH brought me a word of knowledge, "eggplant."
I researched and saw that people were using it in conjunction with other things, like vinegar, to treat skin problems. I just used eggplant.
I kept the Eggplant in a big freezer bag in the refrigerator and would cut off about a 1" by 2" slice of it each night then rub this liberally for a minute or so onto the lesion and surrounding areas. Within a few days the bump got smaller. In a month it was completely gone. Actually I still use it just to be on the safe side.
Here is something that may sound bizarre. Since my sister has been diagnosed with possibly pre cancerous bumps in her colon, I decided to put some eggplant in the blender and add it to a retention enema twice a week. I have done this for several weeks with no ill effects. Maybe it is just a coincidence but I am more regular since then.
I think things like these are wake up calls that we need to be sure we are getting plenty of Vit. D (especially through some sunshine) and be carefully monitoring our ph levels and monitoring our diets to get rid of things like sugar & additives, etc. etc. and maybe do parasites, liver stone & heavy metal cleanses. (Curezone has tons of info on how to do those cleanses & don't trust the lab tests at all re parasites. I had already done those cleanses but, again, I do not have a clue how long that bump was there.) |
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BasalBoy
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2011 : 15:46:49
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Originally posted by fforest
If anyone tries the eggplant mixture and or orange oil please post your results good or bad...I am having great results with this....The eggplant mix is very easy to make and super cheap..Its easy to apply but can be a bit messy...My cancer spots have started to look better within hours,but to heal 100% is going to take a bit of time...I will write a full report later....
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BasalBoy
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2011 : 15:49:57
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| Using eggplant & vinegar is not caustic or painful and may have produced some results. See the photos under BASALBOY. |
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Increationwetrust.org
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 10:03:20
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Originally posted by anivoc
Fforest Citri-solv
Started looking into Orange oil just now and looked up Citri-solve and ingredients in the msds https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/91547.htm
Though it is less than 1/4 of a percent in the ingredient citri-solv does contain Butylated Hydroxyanisole which is a carcinogen. Wonder if there is orange oil out there that is just D-limonene?
http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/roc/eleventh/profiles/s027bha.pdf
I believe you have probably already found this list:
"citrus nobilis (clementine), citrus aurantium bergamia (bergamot), cymbopogon citratus(lemongrass), canarium luzonicum nonvolatiles (elemi), citrus aurantium dulcis (orange), citrus aurantifolia (lime), cananga odorata (ylang ylang), lavandula angustifolia (lavender), mentha spicata (spearmint), mentha piperita (peppermint), cedrol, canarium luzonicum gum nonvolatiles (elemi oil), cinnamomum zeylanicum bark extract(cinnamon leaf oil), citrus aurantifolia (lime) oil, citrus aurantium amara (bitter orange) oil, citrus aurantium bergamia(bergamot) fruit oil, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) oil, citrus limon (lemon) peel oil, coriandrum sativum (coriander) fruit oil, elettaria cardamomum (cardamon) seed oil, eugenia caryophyllus (clove) leaf oil, myristica fragrans (nutmeg) kernel oil, pelargonium graveolens (geranium) flower oil, zingiber officinale (ginger) root oil. d#8208;Limonene is a component of these
essential oils"
As for a source of the highest quality oils you can find.... I use YoungLiving.com .... they are expensive, but just from smelling and handling you can feel its quality. NOTHING else other than just the oils from the plant. Compare it to any other essential oil. the aroma alone will beat out competitors, YL also does gas chromatograph spectrums of their oils, all kinds of tests to check quality and levels of phytochemicals. Run by a naturopath, best source of oils i know of on the planet. please tell me if you know of anywhere else that has as-good or better quality oils. i dont think there are....
Grapefruit and orange oil are the highest in d-limonene, aroudn 90 percent. Elemi is also very good for skin issues, antioxidant, and is 40-70% limonene.... real whole-plant sources of d-limonene will definitely work better than using citra-solv....!!!
Note using citrus oils..... even citra-solv-crap.... they are phototoxic.... when applied to the skin, whereever applied should not receive any sunlight for AT LEAST 12 hours.... |
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billboo
Australia
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 05:23:44
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just new here, checking out some posts on different ideas and noticed a few ingredients in common (orange peel and vinegar).
Had a brain snap and decided to start this tonight, then try using it topically (it kinda makes sense to me) http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/11/homemade-orange-cleaner.html then even try mixing it with eggplant (3 ingredients often mentioned all together) |
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anivoc
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 13:15:27
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quote:
Originally posted by billboo
just new here, checking out some posts on different ideas and noticed a few ingredients in common (orange peel and vinegar).
Had a brain snap and decided to start this tonight, then try using it topically (it kinda makes sense to me) http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/11/homemade-orange-cleaner.html then even try mixing it with eggplant (3 ingredients often mentioned all together)
Welcome just checked out your DIY Orange oil page...cooool!
A heads up on the eggplant.. IMO don't waste your time..If there is anybody here who disagrees speak up.
Fforest posted this in 2007... I am sure 100's of people ( including myself) gave this a try.. I don't know of anyone who had amazing results.. The type of "eggplant" that is used in Curaderm ( I don't endorse or recommend it personally... tried it and though it kind of worked I was unsuccessful at eradicating my big BCC's) is different than the eggplant we buy in stores.
Orange oil is definitely an irritant to skin cancers and so is vinegar.
I have actually knocked out a pretty big AK "actinic keratosis" with just vinegar.
Dependent on what you are dealing with I'm thinking your DIY orange oil that already has vinegar might be quite a powerful skin cancer solution.
Don't try it everywhere.( If you have not already done so) always try two test areas, One where you know you have a problem and one in an area where you are sure there is no problem. That lets you know if whatever you are using is just caustic to all skin or just diseased skin.
I did this with bloodroot and found that bloodroot indeed had no effect on healthy skin but tore into diseased skin like nobodys business.
Anyway... Welcome and good luck! Keep us posted and always if possible take pictures before, during and after.. "proof of the Pusdding" Or as some say POIDH pictures or it didn't happen ;) |
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peter4836
Thailand
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Kittykisses73
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2013 : 10:15:27
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I just had to post my story here and thank everyone who has contributed. My husband is from Australia & when he came here five years ago he had a sun cancer spot that seemed to worsen over time. I did some research and found this site. We went out and purchased a brand new mason jar, a medium eggplant (had hoped for organic but settled for regular) and a bottle of organic cider vinegar. He cut the eggplant up in small cubes and we filled the jar (really packed it in there) and covered it with the entire bottle of vinegar and let it sit in the fridge for 3 days. Every time we opened the fridge we shook the jar to mix it up good. He started putting the liquid mixture on the pad of a band aid (the lesion was on his chest) and put it on each day before he left for work. It's been about 9 weeks now and it's all gone. It used to weep & bleed and looked very nasty and deep, and now it's very light pink soft skin. No more scab, no more bleeding. It looks fantastic.
Thank you to all who have posted here and done research as this truly was a blessing to find.
My deepest appreciation to everyone!!!!! |
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Swanrose
USA
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Swanrose
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2013 : 13:10:57
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I see that the link I left in the above post has stretched the page horizontally. I would go in and fix it but I don't have an edit or delete button. I've written to the forum moderator, but not hearing back. Can anyone help?
On the forum help page, it looks like no has posted there since last year. Is this just not an active site any longer? |
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Eggplant for skin cancer very exciting
