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Alexis Fecteau
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 Posted - 02/05/2011 : 14:19:52
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Mine did really well in the spring and really went crazy once I put them outside, might have been from the nightly dew so I could replicate with misting.
I plan to get them going shortly, and have about 300 seeds I harvested from my plants last time.
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Brigid
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 00:17:00
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Does anyone know what page on the Petty Spurge Forum or what approximate date a few people posted about *combined treatments* with petty spurge and a couple of other substances? I want to go that route but can't locate the posts. I just read through all of pages 6 & 7 on the PS Forum. Thought they were from around December 2010 (maybe November?). The PS Forum has gotten so big, it's hard to read all the posts to find one. Is there a search by subject feature? I haven't seen one, but am not very computer-savvy so might have missed it. If anyone remembers where these posts are, I'd really appreciate hearing! I'm about to start round three of the Petty Spurge, and hoping to combine it with whatever it was.
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 00:55:24
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I haven't seen a petty spurge combo with anything else. I saw cymilium and vit C elsewhere but no combos here. The petty spurge seems to work extremely well. Have you tried it and not found good results?
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judych
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 17:54:11
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hi Brigid... it may have been me... well, i was one who tried a mix. I took bloodroot capsules ... then when the bccs started to come through i used petty spurge.. if you want any more info just email me privetly and i will go through it again for you...judy
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Originally posted by Brigid
Does anyone know what page on the Petty Spurge Forum or what approximate date a few people posted about *combined treatments* with petty spurge and a couple of other substances? I want to go that route but can't locate the posts. I just read through all of pages 6 & 7 on the PS Forum. Thought they were from around December 2010 (maybe November?). The PS Forum has gotten so big, it's hard to read all the posts to find one. Is there a search by subject feature? I haven't seen one, but am not very computer-savvy so might have missed it. If anyone remembers where these posts are, I'd really appreciate hearing! I'm about to start round three of the Petty Spurge, and hoping to combine it with whatever it was.
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Brigid
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 18:06:27
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Originally posted by judych
hi Brigid... it may have been me... well, i was one who tried a mix. I took bloodroot capsules ... then when the bccs started to come through i used petty spurge.. if you want any more info just email me privetly and i will go through it again for you...judy
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Originally posted by Brigid
Does anyone know what page on the Petty Spurge Forum or what approximate date a few people posted about *combined treatments* with petty spurge and a couple of other substances? I want to go that route but can't locate the posts. I just read through all of pages 6 & 7 on the PS Forum. Thought they were from around December 2010 (maybe November?). The PS Forum has gotten so big, it's hard to read all the posts to find one. Is there a search by subject feature? I haven't seen one, but am not very computer-savvy so might have missed it. If anyone remembers where these posts are, I'd really appreciate hearing! I'm about to start round three of the Petty Spurge, and hoping to combine it with whatever it was.
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SoFl
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 09:30:25
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PS cured 41 of 48 skin cancers in a recent clinical trial with 3 days of treatment. This is not pseudo science, it's the cure.
I have three more recent successes bringing my personal total to over 30 successful treatments.
Common weed petty spurge 'could treat' skin cancer
25 January 2011
By Michelle Roberts Health reporter, BBC News
Sap from the common garden weed petty spurge appears to treat non-melanoma skin cancers, experts are reporting in the British Journal of Dermatology.
The study involved 36 of such patients who collectively had a total of 48 non-melanoma lesions. Each was treated with the sap of the petty spurge plant, or Euphorbia peplus, which was applied to the skin once a day for three days. The plant sap has been used for centuries as a traditional medicine, and the researchers wanted to put it through its paces in a proper clinical trial. After a one month, 41 of the 48 cancers had shown a complete clinical response to the treatment, meaning no trace of the tumour could be found on clinical examination.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12275507
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SoFl
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 09:41:20
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Originally posted by Alexis Fecteau
Hi, I grew and used Euphorbia Peplus last summer for a small bcc on my arm with excellent results. Had a bcc removed from my forehead last year that caused a huge staph infection and I want to now use petty spurge on it to make sure it is all clean.
What is the best way to grow it in winter with limited sunlight like it is up here in Seattle? I have seeds harvested from my plants, which I originally grew from Beautanicals seeds.
Alexis Fecteau
Hi Alexis.
My biggest difficulty has been keeping a stock of plants going. I too originally grew from the Beautanicals seeds but now I also have my own seed stockpile. There have been some good posts in this thread about growing, but I have found there are three keys...
-they say it grows naturally in "disturbed soil" I have found that this best translates to aerated soil with a lot of debris in it like foam or wood chips, etc. It doesn't do very well in solid packed dirt.
-the plants don't like a lot of sun. They prefer filtered sun and don't need a huge amount of sun. They can do well in an area that gets shade most of the day and filtered sun part of the day.
-they don't like getting dry. Ideally if you are using well drained soil, water them every day.
-they do not like hot weather. Based on my own limited growing experience, I would say they favor a climate of lows around 30-40F and highs around 60-70F. I would consider that the ideal temperature range and they only thrive when they get the cold nightime temperatures.
-once they get going they like a little bit of liquid plant food. I put one or two drops in about 32 ounces of water once a week or every other week. |
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SoFl
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:01:29
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Originally posted by Jul
SoFl, I have been following your posts for sometime. I live in S. Florida and I have been having little success in growing ps.
Growing them in South Florida is problematic but not at all impossible. First read the post I made above about general growing conditions.
In south florida, I have had the best results by germinating seeds around the November time frame. I keep the plants indoors in a window that gets filtered sunlight most of the day. The seeds germinate easily. The first time we get a winter cold front, I move the plants outdoors because they REQUIRE that shot of cold to get growing well.
I can't emphasize enough that they REQUIRE cold weather in the range of 30-60 degrees at night in order to move beyond a useless dwarf state.
So I grow them during the winter. I leave them outdoors under heavy shade if it's cold outside (it will never get too cold for PS in south Florida) and if it gets hot out I bring them inside.
I have successfully kept plants growing year round, but they are very difficult to grow in the summer because there is something about the low nighttime temperatures that signal to the plant to grow. Often without a cold snap, they remain in a dwarf size state about like a clover and never mature, then eventually die.
The longest I have ever kept a single plant alive is about a year. I will typically try to grow 5 or 6 plants in a small six inch plastic pot, and I try to keep 5 or 6 pots growing.
Given that they grow best in the winter here, I have started trying to do wait and do all of a years accumulated treatments in the wintertime.
I have also grown the plants (much more) successfully in North Carolina. They do ok down to about 20-25 degrees f. So they are definitely frost tolerant but below 20 degrees or so, they don't like it and may die.
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Brigid
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:16:35
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Thanks for the BBC article link, SoFl. I'll remember not to "try it at home" as I'm starting my third round with it, LOL.
I'm still very interested in hearing whether anyone knows where that "combined treatment" post is---it was at the same time roughly as the post about the Indian dr. prescribing neem oil and coconut oil. Thanks for replying, Judy, it wasn't the bloodroot/PS combo that you're doing.
Thinking back on Dan's early posts about cymillium, I decided to try one of the main ingredients of that minus the toxic chemicals in the product. Instead of using ammonia, I used a bit of my own, early AM urine, after being on a healthy, no-caffeine, no- sugar, vegan diet for a few months. I had been putting coconut oil on the area and one day of neem oil to see what turned red. It's a great "diagnostic tool" for me, since it doesn't hurt but does show where the cancer still is.
One spot on my nose that I thought was cancer-free, turned pink from the oil and bright red from the urine and spurge sap. I had expected the area around both nostrils to turn red but was surprised at the intensity of the response on the right nostril: bright red and to the other side of the smile line. (We're talking about applying one drop of sap!) Even before treating on day #2, which this is for me, the inflamed areas around both nostrils have developed a white raised surface, which I think is the white blood cells flooding in. It was sore and itchy immediately, unlike the times I've used the sap alone----that s.t. took 10 hours to react. I'm rooting for it!
Part of the quick response may be due to sensitizing my skin beforehand with the coconut/neem oils, aside from the urine. I'm not sure I'm going to use the urine again today, maybe just the sap. I also may use fresh aloe from a plant to soften the scabs before applying the sap.
The original tumor seems to have spread over a fairly large surface, and during the past two rounds, I used up to 7 leaves' sap each time to get it all. But that was too much, and I dealt with nausea, extreme coldness (not weather-related),
fatigue and headaches. This time, I'm taking it slow: 3 leaves at a go, and that's it.
The good news: an area that lit up previously no longer lights up (from the coconut oil/neem).
On the other hand: The area surrounding the original tumor and later eruptions is still lit up, and I can't treat it this round....but next time I will.
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SoFl
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:19:12
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Originally posted by Alexis Fecteau
I haven't seen a petty spurge combo with anything else. I saw cymilium and vit C elsewhere but no combos here. The petty spurge seems to work extremely well. Have you tried it and not found good results?
Alexis Fecteau
I would like to comment on this since other posters for some reason seem intent on combining it with other treatments.
For me, as well as in the clinical trials that have been conducted, PS works extremely well and produces an outstanding cosmetic result. It makes no sense whatsoever to me to try to combine it with some other treatment that may or may not work. Why would you do that?
After you gain some experience with PS, it works in a very predictable manner used alone. Introducing other variables I see as an entirely counter productive endeavor.
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:33:37
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I would have to strenuously agree with SoFL on the treatment. I see no reason to combine Euphorbia Peplus with other treatments. It works unbelievably effectively and is proven scientifically. Combinations that dilute the sap aren't and may well reduce the efficacy of the chemicals that produce the results.
Cosmetically results are excellent as well.
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Brigid
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:38:41
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I'd appreciate knowing how you collect the seeds. The white paper beneath the pot didn't yield anything, but a couple of seedlings have sprouted in two of my pots.
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Originally posted by SoFl
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Originally posted by Jul
SoFl, I have been following your posts for sometime. I live in S. Florida and I have been having little success in growing ps.
Growing them in South Florida is problematic but not at all impossible. First read the post I made above about general growing conditions.
In south florida, I have had the best results by germinating seeds around the November time frame. I keep the plants indoors in a window that gets filtered sunlight most of the day. The seeds germinate easily. The first time we get a winter cold front, I move the plants outdoors because they REQUIRE that shot of cold to get growing well.
I can't emphasize enough that they REQUIRE cold weather in the range of 30-60 degrees at night in order to move beyond a useless dwarf state.
So I grow them during the winter. I leave them outdoors under heavy shade if it's cold outside (it will never get too cold for PS in south Florida) and if it gets hot out I bring them inside.
I have successfully kept plants growing year round, but they are very difficult to grow in the summer because there is something about the low nighttime temperatures that signal to the plant to grow. Often without a cold snap, they remain in a dwarf size state about like a clover and never mature, then eventually die.
The longest I have ever kept a single plant alive is about a year. I will typically try to grow 5 or 6 plants in a small six inch plastic pot, and I try to keep 5 or 6 pots growing.
Given that they grow best in the winter here, I have started trying to do wait and do all of a years accumulated treatments in the wintertime.
I have also grown the plants (much more) successfully in North Carolina. They do ok down to about 20-25 degrees f. So they are definitely frost tolerant but below 20 degrees or so, they don't like it and may die.
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SoFl
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 11:15:21
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Originally posted by Brigid
I'd appreciate knowing how you collect the seeds. The white paper beneath the pot didn't yield anything, but a couple of seedlings have sprouted in two of my pots.
Seed collection:
This is all from personal experience...
As the plant matures, it will produce extremely small bright yellow buds on the outer leaves. These contain seed pods that each contain three seeds. Warm weather triggers these triplet seed pods to explode, sending the outer soft shell straight to the ground, and sending the seeds hurling as far as six feet or more from the plant. This is the mechanism by which the plant spreads.
My collection method is very low tech but it works. I keep them indoors on a wide windowsill in the kitchen with a white tile floor. When they are spreading the seeds, in between regular floor cleanings, I will crawl around on the floor and pick up each seed individually by pressing my finger down to the floor, and the seed will stick to my finger.
The seeds are very small, probably only 1 mm long. One plant can produce hundreds of seeds. The seeds themselves are a grayish color, and if you look at them under a magnifying glass or a loupe, they have a matrix of holes all over them. The seeds are very hard. I keep them in a small ziplock bag in regular indoor conditions and they remain viable for years.
Whatever method you devise, it's important to understand that the green outer covering drops straight down. That isn't what you want. The seeds themselves are propelled by the explosion of the pod, and can travel a long distance. So simply putting a paper under the plant will probably only yield the useless outer seed coverings.
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SoFl
79 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 11:47:50
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I have one last post for today.
In the clinical trial I cited above, and in every clinical trial I've seen, the treatment duration was three days. In this last trial, that was good enough to cure 41 out of 48 lesions. Would a longer treatment have cured them all? Based on my experience I think the answer is yes.
I have settled on a somewhat longer treatment, as I posted earlier in this thread and so far I have a 100 percent success rate, having only to re treat 2 lesions where I initially used a short three day treatment.
I have settled on a "standard" treatment whereby anything that looks like it might go deep gets 3 days of the sap, covered by a leaf, covered by a band aid, and then after three days, I remove the band aid and then just use the sap. this treatment includes one and maybe 2 scab removals to get the sap directly on to the tissue below. I think this is overkill however for small or more superficial lesions.
My point in this post is to say that PS is documented to work. So my keen interest now is in optimizing the duration and intensity of the treatment for various lesions so as not to intentionally overtreat, but at the same time to treat to a degree that it does not return.
I have a great interest in this because.....
I have progressed to treating Atypical Moles (Dysplastic Nevus) of which I have several hundred. I have treated two so far with complete erasure and a wonderful almost unbelievable cosmetic result. One had been prominently displayed on my cheek since birth and it was getting bigger. As of today, there is no evidence that I ever had a mole on the cheek except for a slightly reddened area compared to the surrounding skin, but I am only one month after a very deep (est 3 mm deep) and slightly painful treatment. I know I'm not supposed to be doing this according to conventional science and neither are you. Caveat Emptor and stay tuned because I will report back if any of these return.
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clearlake
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 17:32:02
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Thanks so much for the great news about the Clinical Trial SOFL.
Have a question about your post; are you saying if the petty plants do not get beyond the dwarf stage the sap is useless?
My plants are doing pretty well now, (about the size of clover) and I am in South Florida. They do like it cooler. I hadn't put them outside this winter, will have to try that. In the next post I'm attaching photos. The plant that is underneath the table is the one that is doing the best.
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 17:36:26
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cause
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 06:35:50
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Hello, just stumbled upon this forum.
I've been reading about this for a while and now just starting to try and find some of this wonder weed.
However I'm concerned about picking the wrong one, has anyone got a foolproof way of identifying it? Pictures so often look so different from the real thing.
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cause
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 06:37:48
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Hello, just stumbled upon this forum.
I've been reading about this for a while and now just starting to try and find some of this wonder weed.
However I'm concerned about picking the wrong one, has anyone got a foolproof way of identifying it? Pictures so often look so different from the real thing.
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 12:42:53
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I would highly recommend just buying the seeds from Beautanicals in Australia, they are only $3.50 US plus shipping, then grow it yourself and you know you have the correct plant for sure.
That was my experience and it worked well, no worries about having the wrong plant, especially if you have never seen one up close in person before. I tried finding them wild and they would have been difficult or impossible to definitively identify in my case here in Seattle.
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cause
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 01:38:50
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| Thank you Alexis. I've just ordered the seeds. I'll probably find myself surrounded by by this weed come spring but better safe than sorry. |
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 01:48:24
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I agree, you might, but you'll also be sure you have the Euphorbia Peplus and not something close in spelling or sap like Euphorbia Peplis.
With my luck I would end up with the latter and never know it til it didn't work as advertised!
Good luck, I think you made the correct decision.
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waverider
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 09:03:59
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| Cause, You're right it's hard to identify PS from photos. But once you grow some of your own from the Australian seeds, you'll be able to recognize it in the wild with no problem from then on. It will probably be jumping out at you all over the place in the UK because I know it grows very prolifically there. Just not during the summer. |
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Brigid
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 12:40:23
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Hi Cause,
I've read that Petty Spurge was used as a Victorian garden border. I can see why. The leaves are delicate, shaped like little tear drops, with a nodding habit from the main stems. They're a bright, yellowy spring green, and when the light falls on them, they're really beautiful.
They're hard to get started, just make sure to keep the soil damp but not soggy. Beautanicals recommends the soil being 1/3 perlite or vermiculite to aerate it, 1/3 sand and 1/3 potting soil. My hardiest plant however was in just potting soil. I propped my tiny seedlings up with tooth picks and forked twigs, and still half died. I started them in a very hot summer and realized I had to keep an air conditioner on to keep them alive. I have two unheated rooms here in New England, and they're thriving at those temps. As others have said, once they get to be about 2 inches (5 cm) tall, you can feed them a dilute plant food. Just be careful that the leaves don't get too big for their little stems from the food: they can flop over and die from that. Some of us have had about a 50% success rate, so plant more than you'll need, and don't worry if some die off. Beautanicals suggested starting them in an eastern or somewhat less-bright window and switching them when they're a couple of inches to a brighter window (but no direct southern sun). I think others haven't done that and have been fine, and of course it depends on your situation.
Good luck!
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Originally posted by waverider
Cause, You're right it's hard to identify PS from photos. But once you grow some of your own from the Australian seeds, you'll be able to recognize it in the wild with no problem from then on. It will probably be jumping out at you all over the place in the UK because I know it grows very prolifically there. Just not during the summer.
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cause
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 14:54:04
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Thanks Waverider and Brigid, I have no doubt that I've been trampling over this plant for years but never knew its merits.
I'm in Devon England and its very fertile with prolific wild strawberries and garlic growing along the roadsides, but to my shame many of the 'weeds' in my garden I would struggle to name.
I do try to identify some but many could be confused with similar ones (which is why I don't pick wild mushrooms), so the correct route will be the seeds.
Thanks for the growing info. If I can get at least one going strong I'll head for the hills to find others. |
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ruby
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 01:54:48
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I am wondering how long the plants need to grow before they produce sap? I planted my Petty Spurge seeds in October and they are now about 4-5" tall (got the seeds from Beautanicals). But I just crushed some leaves and don't see any sap yet.
How long might I have to wait for that?
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 11:32:29
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Originally posted by ruby
I am wondering how long the plants need to grow before they produce sap? I planted my Petty Spurge seeds in October and they are now about 4-5" tall (got the seeds from Beautanicals). But I just crushed some leaves and don't see any sap yet.
How long might I have to wait for that?
Hi,
My experience was that I waited til they were about 8" tall, that being said, as long as there are plenty of leaves, I would say at least 60-80 leaves. The way to get the sap is to pluck a leaf off with tweezers. A very small amount of sap will come from the stem, usually - and unfortunately - the most sap comes from the part of the stem that remains on the plant. Just use the tweezers to get that sap and apply.
You only need a very very small amount, the amount that comes out will be enough, just spread it around.
Does that help? Your plants, if grown indoors and not misted a couple times a day may be taking much longer to grow.
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SheilaInAus
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 21:04:55
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Hi All, I've been reading this thread for a week now. I found it after researching another Euphorbia (The Australian Blushwood tree Hylandia dockrillii from North Queensland) that has an extract being trialed in animals to dissolve skin and solid cancer tumours. It will soon be released to vets in Australia. Phase 1 human trials on skin cancers begin later this year. Tumours are injected with the drug and melt away in a few days to two weeks. Unfortunately there is no indication it acts systemically as a cure so for those with metastasis it will perhaps prolong life if tumours are accessible by injection.
I have a lot of links but don't know how to post them so I'll try to type one or two.
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2011/01/20/145405_local-news.html
On the qbiotics media site go down to the video from "Sunday Night, channel 7" to see this used on dogs, cats and a horse. Brilliant!
http://www.qbiotics.com/?gclid=CIuykNL_nqICFQcYewodnxa8yA#/media/
I have started using PS on an AK on my leg but after 2 days there is no reaction. I normally have lots of PS in my garden but I sprayed the courtyard area a few weeks ago as it was getting overrun with weeds and grass. I'm confused why people say it is a cold climate plant as it is summer here and I have some under the edge of the house and a few weeks ago we had over 40C/105f for over a week. Also the areas where it grows are sheltered from rain so very dry. It seems to like growing next to buildings and among rocks and paving.
I've put some seed trays under some plants hoping to spread it round more. I have looked at many photo's online and it is definitely PS. It has the distinctive seed pods and flowers.
I have a USB microscope and am taking 10x and 60x pics of the skin although nothing is happening yet. |
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 20:59:45
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Hi Sheilainaus
If you're having no reaction either on the suspect area or redness of the surrounding skin, and if the plants are growing in an area that is clearly inhospitable to Euphorbia Peplus, I would presume you are not using the correct petty spurge (Euphorbia Peplus) and suggest you order the known seeds from Beautanicals or another reputable shop.
There are over a hundred types of petty spurge/milkweed, and some look nearly the same as the correct one.
I've never heard of anyone not even getting a reaction of the surrounding skin, especially after 2 days. That is normally enough time to nearly eradicate a good sized bcc.
Good luck
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SheilaInAus
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 23:43:41
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Hi Alexis, I did get redness where I accidentally got some next to the spot. Also I had burning of the tongue and lips after chewing my nails even though I had washed my hands well. I must remember to use tweezers as I'm risking rubbing my eyes and doing damage. I'm aware of Beautanicals and will use them if this doesn't work. I know that legs take longer to react and I'm thinking of trying it on my elbow too but I'm not sure if I can keep using the same few plants as I know they can lose their potency.
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Alexis Fecteau
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Posted - 03/13/2011 : 01:58:39
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Hard to guarantee that you have the correct sap/plant regardless of the possible effects you've had.
I would recommend simply removing that variable from the equation and ensure the correct seeds from the start, then logically proceed from there. I also suggest that when you grow the plant from seed, you allow it to grow 50-60 leaves minimum before harvesting sap, shouldn't take more than 6-8 weeks.
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SheilaInAus
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Posted - 03/13/2011 : 10:05:27
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Thanks for your concern. As I have been out or it's been raining heavily for two days I haven't reapplied the sap. I checked some Australian sites and it does grow year round here. In fact Beautanicals is in a much hotter area in Queensland than where I live south of Sydney, with mild winters there compared to colder ones here. I find it interesting that the Queensland variety from Beautanicals needs cool weather overseas. Very strange. If I can get a photo tomorrow I might try to post it as it's so easily recognisable. If there's anything similar I'd love to see a photo or description that distinguishes between the two. Anyway I only have mild AK's and possibly a tiny BCC on my nose which I want identified before I touch it so there's no urgency.
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Brigid
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Posted - 03/13/2011 : 17:08:31
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Hi Sheila,
This is fantastic about the Hylandia. I love it when people post about clinical trial of plants that we can grow ourselves. Thank you!! You might also try posting it on some other part of this large website. A little poking around will give you an idea where.
Please keep us updated on new developments with these trials.
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Originally posted by SheilaInAus
Hi All, I've been reading this thread for a week now. I found it after researching another Euphorbia (The Australian Blushwood tree Hylandia dockrillii from North Queensland) that has an extract being trialed in animals to dissolve skin and solid cancer tumours. It will soon be released to vets in Australia. Phase 1 human trials on skin cancers begin later this year. Tumours are injected with the drug and melt away in a few days to two weeks. Unfortunately there is no indication it acts systemically as a cure so for those with metastasis it will perhaps prolong life if tumours are accessible by injection.
I have a lot of links but don't know how to post them so I'll try to type one or two.
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2011/01/20/145405_local-news.html
On the qbiotics media site go down to the video from "Sunday Night, channel 7" to see this used on dogs, cats and a horse. Brilliant!
http://www.qbiotics.com/?gclid=CIuykNL_nqICFQcYewodnxa8yA#/media/
I have started using PS on an AK on my leg but after 2 days there is no reaction. I normally have lots of PS in my garden but I sprayed the courtyard area a few weeks ago as it was getting overrun with weeds and grass. I'm confused why people say it is a cold climate plant as it is summer here and I have some under the edge of the house and a few weeks ago we had over 40C/105f for over a week. Also the areas where it grows are sheltered from rain so very dry. It seems to like growing next to buildings and among rocks and paving.
I've put some seed trays under some plants hoping to spread it round more. I have looked at many photo's online and it is definitely PS. It has the distinctive seed pods and flowers.
I have a USB microscope and am taking 10x and 60x pics of the skin although nothing is happening yet.
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SheilaInAus
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Posted - 03/13/2011 : 22:21:17
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Hi Brigid,
There is a thread about the Blushwood tree which I added to a few topics under this. Unfortunately it probably won't be a home remedy as they are using just one molecule out of the seed and the tree only grows in a tropical or sub-tropical climate so far. It grows easily from a cutting and takes a couple of years to produce fruit. I doubt it would be allowed to be grown overseas in case it turns into a pest, though if anyone finds out how to extract and use the active ingredient I suspect it will find it's way overseas.
Injecting it into tumours presents all sorts of problems too. Like finding the tumour and sterilizing the extract. I guess if my life was at stake and there was no other viable option I might try anything. |
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ruby
13 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2011 : 18:50:45
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I did my first time treatment of 2 spots with Petty Spurge - 1x a day, 3 days in a row. I noticed within an hour or two after applying the sap that I felt unusually tired, especially in my eye area. I also felt a heaviness in my forehead.
I treated one spot on my face near my ear lobe and one on my arm and was very careful not to get the sap anywhere near my eye. Also washed my hands a couple times after touching the plant (but never had the sap on my fingers). Each day of treatment I felt this. Its atypical for me, and I wondered why I so tired. I thought it could be the Petty Spurge.
Today I started a second round after the scabs came off to see if there would be any more basal cell left to treat, and again, I felt the tiredness and a 'drawn' feeling around my eyes and forehead. Definitely I attribute it now to the Petty Spurge.
Its good to note it, as it might be something to be cautious about.
quote]Originally posted by annieh
quote:
A post by Kanga re
Euphorbia Peplus - Systemic and or side effects?
reads in part:
> Also do any users report any other possible side affects of the treatment, as it appears from my observation that substances from the sap can enter the bloodstream and could therefore cause other systemic side effects?
> In particular has any user noted any psychological effects such as acute anxiety, mood alteration, or depression when using the treatment? I appreciate that any such observations may make a very tenuous connection with the treatment, but not a lot is known about the effects of this "drug".
Kanga, after using petty spurge a lot in the past few months, I can say for sure that for me, during the days of using it, I feel very tired.
Perhaps the tiredness is due to all my body's efforts going into my immune system that is working overtime to work on the skin cancers that have been "highlighted" by the petty spurge.
Because of the fatigue I feel when using it, I only use petty spurge for three days at a time, max, and then have some rest days before continuing the treatment. (I learned to do this from reading these forums).
I also wonder if the way I feel is due to other substances in the petty spurge plant, that my body is reacting to as if to a toxin; OR I wonder if it is the variation in sap quality from one plant to another, or the time of day it is picked making the sap stronger/weaker ...
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Alexis Fecteau
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2011 : 18:55:18
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Those are interesting side effects, tell me, how did the sap work on the suspected BCCs?
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ruby
13 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2011 : 01:14:35
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I had good results topically. The 2 BCC spots (which had been biopsied 6 months earlier) went through the stages many describe here, and ended up with a scab, which then fell off.
Just in case there is more left behind, I'm re-treating them. |
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Alexis Fecteau
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2011 : 04:05:13
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Excellent, glad it is working. I plan to grow more plants shortly and retreat where I had Moh's surgery to make sure all the cancer cells are gone.
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SheilaInAus
7 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2011 : 06:52:13
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I have had some reaction to PS on my elbow but the one on the knee seems to be the same. My elbow AK has become red and inflamed and a little itchy. I've also started to use it on the many small AK's an my left hand.
My main problem is getting enough of the sap as my plants are small. I've received seeds in the post and tomorrow I will plant some in pots where I can have more control of their environment. I guess it will be a couple of months till they are big enough to use.
To save on postage I also bought purple carrot seeds from Beautanicals as their medicinal properties are more powerful than the regular orange variety.
http://www.purple-carrots.com/ |
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Alexis Fecteau
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2011 : 19:42:21
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Hi Marie, Here is my response to the email again. I'll repost here to make sure you received it:
Hi Marie,
Yes it will scab up and if it's a small spot, only putting sap on it for 3 days or so, 2x a day or so will take care of it. It will scab up if the spot contains any cancer or pre-cancerous cells as far as I understand it, and it appears to also find cells nearby that may be suspect.
Make sure you have the correct plant though, I suggest getting it from that Beautanicals place to ensure you have the absolutely correct Euphorbia Peplus as there are a number of similar plants in both name and appearance.
I think its only $3-4 plus shipping for 30 seeds if I remember correctly. Will take about 6 weeks to germinate them and grow them to reasonable size, depending of course on how much you'll need.
Good Luck
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Grace
5 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2011 : 19:34:48
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Hello everyone, I have been reading here for a while and finally decided to join and post. I ordered the PS seeds and am trying desperately to get them to sprout here in hot FL. Trying indoors.
Would anyone be able to give advice for dealing with family members who are pounding you with "you have to trust the doctors" stuff? It is so difficult to get them to stop nagging - especially my scientist son. I have a supportive husband thank heavens.
Also, why is it that this is believed to NOT work on melanomas? Any ideas? |
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Brigid
68 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2011 : 00:08:43
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quote:
Originally posted by SheilaInAus
I have had some reaction to PS on my elbow but the one on the knee seems to be the same. My elbow AK has become red and inflamed and a little itchy. I've also started to use it on the many small AK's an my left hand.
My main problem is getting enough of the sap as my plants are small. I've received seeds in the post and tomorrow I will plant some in pots where I can have more control of their environment. I guess it will be a couple of months till they are big enough to use.
To save on postage I also bought purple carrot seeds from Beautanicals as their medicinal properties are more powerful than the regular orange variety.
http://www.purple-carrots.com/
I've been reading about purple carrots, too. Orange carrots are so twentieth century,has the kids say. Seriously, they sound great for anyone with sc. Thanks for the post!
You only need to cut a leaf off a stem to get a drop of white sap. You don't have to cut a branch. (I thought you did.) But if you have to wait a couple of months for new plants, don't worry. These spots for the most part grow slowly. Some people have posted here that spots on the legs take longer to get a reaction.
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anivoc
668 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2011 : 00:13:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Grace
Hello everyone, I have been reading here for a while and finally decided to join and post. I ordered the PS seeds and am trying desperately to get them to sprout here in hot FL. Trying indoors.
Would anyone be able to give advice for dealing with family members who are pounding you with "you have to trust the doctors" stuff? It is so difficult to get them to stop nagging - especially my scientist son. I have a supportive husband thank heavens.
Also, why is it that this is believed to NOT work on melanomas? Any ideas?
Welcome Grace..
First melanoma..
Unlike Basal cell, and Actenic keratosis AK Melanoma is deadly serious .. There are reports of people who claim to have beaten a melanoma with bloodroot paste but unfortunately Melanoma is just much more aggressive so resorting back to traditional methods is probably the best course of action.
Squamous can be deadly but much less than melanoma.
In regards to friends and family worrying about self treating it is tough.
The proof of the pudding is right here on this BBS. Next time someone gives you a hard time, if they are really concerned tell them to come here and spend a few hours reading the post. If they are willing to invest that much time and come away still skeptical then agree to at least see a doctor and get their opinion. Your scientist son may find that he can be of help here.
I have gone both ways, traditional and alternative and it's six of one half dozen of another results. Both have eradicated lesions and in both cases I have had re-occurrences.. no guarantees either way but I feel I ma better off treating these on my own at this juncture.
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waverider
76 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2011 : 18:53:25
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Hi Grace,
If you haven't planted all your seeds yet you might want to germinate some of them indoors first. After I got bad results with my first crop (only three sprouted, I think) I used the method described on this page:
http://www.robsplants.com/seed/baggy.php
I did not find it necessary to put the bags in the refrigerator, just keep them inside at room temp was enough. Now I have no trouble getting PS to grow and have probably 90+% success with the Australian seeds by germinating them indoors. There are other germination methods described elsewhere that are variations on this same theme.
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Grace
5 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 08:35:57
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Woot! Happy dance! Jumping up and down! Spinning in circles! Uncontrollable happiness! Yippee! Yahoo! High five!!!!
MY SEEDS SPROUTED!!!!!! |
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Grace
5 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 08:39:18
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| Note: Planted in a clay pot that is enamel coated on the outside, Miracle Gro potting mix, on the wet side of damp, 3 days outside in FL 90 degree heat, moved indoors to kitchen counter (no sun), SPROUTED day 2 of inside!, moved to bedside table East facing morning sun but still in A/C so cool. |
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Trout19
1 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 09:10:26
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First time poster, but I've been following PS for a while. After Mohs surgery several years ago(BC came back after that ordeal) I was looking for an alternative. I ordered my seeds in February and got started. I live in south Texas, so this environment is not the greatest for growing PS. It's taken several months for my little plants to be servicable, but I finally got a chance to treat a spot on my forehead that was confirmed BC... I treated using SoFlo's method - went 4 days.... and now everything looks much better. There is still a little redness, but all signs of the cancer are gone. I'll work on the nose next.
I found that my plants grew very slowly down here. Even in April, the night time lows are often in the 70s. I started putting my plants in the fridge at night, then moving them to a low-light/non-direct light during the day. I think they still may get too hot, as a few have died, but some are fighting through. The fridge did seem to help a lot.
Thank you for all the info on this board. Right now this seems like a miracle cure. Just a little discomfort and wearing some band-aides for a week or so and the BC is gone. I've got several more to treat, but yea! so far...
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Irene
18 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 11:17:00
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Latest batch I am growing: I just threw a bunch of seeds in a 6" diameter pot with indoor potting soil and watered well. Put them near the window with a northern exposure (it's the only window I have that provides enough light). Now 6 weeks later they are 6 - 8 inches tall.
I think they like to grow in larger pots rather than in small containers and in clumps/bunches (supporting each other) rather than alone, and they like to stay fairly wet. In other words, don't let them dry out between waterings, don't make them sit in too much sun (although I had several volunteer plants last year that looked quite happy outside, in the spaces between patio stones in the full sun.)
I've got plenty of seeds for those who need them.
Irene
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Grace
5 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 18:36:50
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Just a note on my condition. Two spots on chest, one BCC, one SCC confirmed by biopsy. Suspicious mole on back - impossible to reach so thank heavens for hubby. A lot of spots suspicious to me - I think a BCC on side of nose. Can't wait to start treating but gotta wait for my babies to grow. I hope it doesn't take 3 months but it looks like that is about the time frame.
Currently using hemp oil ointment - will see how that goes. Itches when put on a known spot, no reaction at all to a healthy one and takes a LONG time to work.
Darn that "awesome tan" from my 20's!  |
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Petty Spurge Herb sap for skin cancers
