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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2014 :  11:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have posted around these forums for a little while, as I have tried a few different remedies for what I feel is a likely nodular BCC on the side of my nose.

My Brief History:

I "failed" the vitamin C paste treatment. (This is the method favored by my alternative doctor -- apply the paste using powdered ascorbic acid twice a day for 2 weeks. You leave it on all day and all night, just washing it off to reapply.) I found this SO painful that I could not get beyond 4 days. On the 4th day I applied it, my entire cheek swelled up and became red. I actually thought that was a good sign. Steve Martin, of GrouppeKurosawa fame (may he rest in peace) had once written (IIRC) that while chronic low-level inflamation can cause or promote cancer, an acute, sudden bout of inflamation can help cure it. I don't recall the reason why. In any event, a thick scab had developed on my face, about the size of a quarter. In a few weeks, the scab had completely come off, leaving clear skin behind. But the small lesion returned in less than a year.

I applied Sunspot sporatically to the area, which did not do anything. I tried the vit C paste again last year and again failed to get beyond a few days. Then I did 12 weeks of cymillium. That was easy to do and did not hurt nearly as much as the VitC paste, but it is a bit messy to have this blob of darkish-tan cream on the front of your face all day, and it is a bit pricey. Then I tried SSKI iodine for a while (prescription, as it is clear). It was probably a few months, though for a while I only used it once a day. Then for a month got serious and used it about 3 times a day. An area that I did not think I had a problem on was the first to scab over, but eventually I felt 4 distict scabs. FOUR! I then suspended treatment for about 6 weeks while I visited a friend in California. While there, all I did was take some liquid extract of a medicinal plant by mouth. :-) For only the last 4 days did I put it on my skin. This makes me very sad as I just did not think about using it topically until it was just about too late. Also while there we used the hot tub very often, which uses a salt solution (rather than chlorine) as a disinfectant. So while in the hot tub I kept rinsing my face with the water. It tasted salty.

When I got back from California, I ordered pharma grade DMSO which I have not received yet. While waiting I have been putting a variety things on my face. (1) Neem Oil with the contents of a selenium capsule rubbed into it; (2) orange oil (which I had bought many months ago.) Initially, when I first tried the orange oil, I got no reaction. Right now, I spread it over a wide area and my entire nose, and I get a definite reaction, but my skin may just be irritated from the iodine treatment. (3) Green tea -- I usually drink green tea in the morning, and I have been taking the tea bag out of the cup and using it as a compress. (4) Retin A - .05%. Have used this a few times. I am just keeping things in a holding pattern while I wait for my DMSO.

At present, I can feel 2 bumps in the affected area. They are larger than when I started out, and seem swollen. Looking carefully at my face with my glasses on (hard to do as the affected area is right near where my reading glasses hit) I can see a few either black or dark red very tiny dots in the middle of a bunch a redness, some scaliness, and a very small white, pearly looking bump in the middle of all this.

My Thoughts:

Right now my face looks like a mess, much worse than even a few months ago. Did I make it worse, or did the topical treatments merely "bring out" the cancer? I would think the later.

I don't doubt the sincerity of the peole who have posted on these forums, that this or that treatment worked for them (except maybe for the one-post posters who seem to be promoting/selling a particular product.) I think that some things will work for some people, and not for others. The reason could be different metabolisms, diet, blood sugar, supplements, toxicity, etc.

I have been reading and taking notes about various combos that make sense to me. Steve Martin (Grouppe Kurosawa) advocated attacking cancers from many different pathways, but he warned not to mix "cancer killing" and "immune enhancement" therapies at the same time. His protocol for cancer involves cycling between substances that kill the cancer directly, and those that enhance the body's own immune function. Here is an out-of-date protocol reposted: http://www.healthsalon.org/162/the-grouppe-kurosawa-general-cancerleukemia-treatment-protocol/

It is extremely interesting. A few things I noted from going through it was: Take as much Jarrow BroccoMax as you can afford; do not load up on antioxidants.

What I will Do:

As I wait for my DMSO, I am using orange oil during the day; green tea compress in the morning; Neem Oil with selenium rubbed into it at night. Occasionally the retin-A a little while after the orange oil in the morning, but it is so full of chemicals, I don't know that I will continue that.

When I get my DMSO, I plan to start cycling through different combos. One will definitely be DMSO+SSKI (iodine). I don't know if cancer is a fungus or not, but I have had alot of problems with vaginal yeast infections all through my life (though not the past 2 years or so) and chronic toenail fungus in spite of an excellent diet and supplements/detox as prescribed by my alternative doctor.

DMSO alone targets cancer cells, and will carry the SSKI deep into the skin.

This doctor claims to have cured himself of skin cancer using DMSO+Vit C, so I may (eek!) give that a try. He gives his recipe here, has also added Vit A to the mix, and also promotes Curaderm as a treatment. http://www.whitakerwellness.com/health-concerns/alternative-cancer-treatments/skin-cancer-treatment/

Another combo I am interested in the the coconut oil/melatonin/vitamin D combo. I first read about this on the GrouppeKurosawa blog many years ago, and I know dan advocates this mix. I remember that Steve Martin advised to chew a melatonin tablet and spit out the mix of meatonin and saliva, as the enzymes in the saliva will help break down the cancer cell walls. If I want a break from DMSO, I may try that.

I will post exactly what I am doing on this tread. I have read so many of the threads here, and have been taking notes of things that are of interest to me.

As far as supplements, I take so many for my general health, it is impossible to list them all. But I will take Steve Martin's advice to heart (load up on BroccoMax), and also key is Allergy Research Group Pork Pancreas on an empty stomach. This formula was developed by Dr. Nick Gonzalez (a well-know alternative cancer doctor) for use with his cancer patients. It says so right on the bottle that it is his formula, and I remember an ad from Wilner Chemists in NYC that said ARG glandulars are now all Dr. Gonzalez's formulas that he uses with his own patients. The least expensive source I have found for this is from amazon.com in the big 720 capsule size. I take 30-40 of these a day. (Empty stomach only! That means wait at least 2 hours before and after eating to take it. I usually wait 3 hours, which means I only eat 2 times a day, and no snacking. This also means I am "fasting" for long periods of the day/night, which may be helpful.) It is pricey to take so much, but I am serious about clearing this problem up. And I think that I have to hit this internally as well as externally.

Finally, I will note that an "internet friend" of mine claims to have cured himself of prostate cancer. He discusses his experience and the supplements he took here: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/12/cancer-free-i-beat-prostate-cancer-mish.html?#echocomments

I will be back. I will try to get pictures. I am going to use this thread to record my progress. And again, I thank everyone who has posted their experiences here, and dan, for all his work with this forum.





Edited by - gloe on 02/27/2014 17:38:43

gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2014 :  08:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Oil Combo which I will work into my combo treatment:

About 50/50 Neem Oil and Coconut Oil (about .5 oz each, though I didn't measure); plus 2 capfuls (they are pretty small) of orange oil. Mixed together in a small (clean) glass jar.

I added the orange oil because I had been hitting the area with orange oil several times a day for the past week as I wait for my DMSO, and things are definitely happening. The way it looks reminds me of Dan's pictures of his neck where he used the orange topical.

When I get my jasmine oil, I will add a capful of that to this mix, and that will be my "Oil Combo." I will then edit this post and reveal the brand of each one.

Edited by - gloe on 02/17/2014 06:39:33
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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2014 :  16:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glo - sounds like you have some good combo ideas. It will be interesting to see what works the best. The last couple of days I finally got out the iodine and have mixed the vitamin C, iodine and DMSO. So far so good. This has been really great in "cleaning up" the initial areas of problems - but I don't know if I am getting anywhere with the new areas. They are swelling a little, bubble up but not opening up other than a little bit of brown but not really a scab. I am hoping that the work is going on in the inside but if I don't see more improvement in the next 5 days - I will start with the ascorbic acid Vitamin C to open the area and suffer the pain. I do have one more treatment to try that I will report on - DMSO and Black Cumin Oil. In researching Black Cumin Oil, it was encouraging to read that Black Cumin Oil is recognized, by almost all medical groups, as having cancer killing abilities. Black Cumin Oil is also a small molecule and should work well with DMSO.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2014 :  14:01:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lynn, one problems with "combos" is that you won't be able to tell what really works the best, but I still think it is the best way to go. My 3-combo oil mix may be enough to get this thing. SOMETHING sure is going on.

I really wish you good luck. Please report back about your progress.

I looked up black cumin seed oil and found this among other things: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3252704/ Looks like it is worth trying. For the record, Neem Oil really STINKS and I hate using it, but will stick with this mixture for now.

So many good ideas, so little time and money . . .

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

Glo - sounds like you have some good combo ideas. It will be interesting to see what works the best. The last couple of days I finally got out the iodine and have mixed the vitamin C, iodine and DMSO. So far so good. This has been really great in "cleaning up" the initial areas of problems - but I don't know if I am getting anywhere with the new areas. They are swelling a little, bubble up but not opening up other than a little bit of brown but not really a scab. I am hoping that the work is going on in the inside but if I don't see more improvement in the next 5 days - I will start with the ascorbic acid Vitamin C to open the area and suffer the pain. I do have one more treatment to try that I will report on - DMSO and Black Cumin Oil. In researching Black Cumin Oil, it was encouraging to read that Black Cumin Oil is recognized, by almost all medical groups, as having cancer killing abilities. Black Cumin Oil is also a small molecule and should work well with DMSO.


Edited by - gloe on 02/18/2014 14:13:47
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dan

609 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2014 :  19:12:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi gloe, I wish you well too. Good stuff, I really liked your links! One thing I learned from my experience with orange oil was I could take my time and still get good results. So if the treatment was making a mess, I could afford a couple of days off to let things heal a bit. The orange oil never seemed to lose its ability fight whatever was there. I also remember being almost ready to give up until I compared before and after pictures which clearly showed progress that was not as obvious in real time, so be sure to take pictures. It has been years for me since my orange oil treatments with no real problems coming back.

I know Steve Martin evolved into a two phase cancer attack plan but I found that a bit overwhelming to consider in practice. I miss him, he was unique in being able to translate complex study results into action plans. I'm glad you found a link to his work.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2014 :  11:52:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi dan, thanks for your reply.

I think my oil combo mixture might alone do the trick. However, I am going to post a warning in another post, as I have developed a bad rash on my cheek where the neem/coconut oil spread down to. Interstingly, the "problem area" did not get a rash.

Will keep posting my progress.

I really miss Steve Martin. I found his writings to be extremely interesting.

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Originally posted by dan

Hi gloe, I wish you well too. Good stuff, I really liked your links! One thing I learned from my experience with orange oil was I could take my time and still get good results. So if the treatment was making a mess, I could afford a couple of days off to let things heal a bit. The orange oil never seemed to lose its ability fight whatever was there. I also remember being almost ready to give up until I compared before and after pictures which clearly showed progress that was not as obvious in real time, so be sure to take pictures. It has been years for me since my orange oil treatments with no real problems coming back.

I know Steve Martin evolved into a two phase cancer attack plan but I found that a bit overwhelming to consider in practice. I miss him, he was unique in being able to translate complex study results into action plans. I'm glad you found a link to his work.

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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2014 :  11:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WARNING! I have developed a very bad rash, mostly on my cheek where my oil mixture "melted" down on the "affected" side of my face. For some strange reason, the problem area (suspected BCC) does not have a rash. I wonder what that means? Maybe just that the skin around my nose is not as delicate as my cheeks.

Please be careful with oils on the face. I recommend trying them on another part of your skin before applying to the face. I have to wonder if I just overdid it, or I have an allergy to something.

I am putting a zinc ointment and aloe on my face to calm things down, but otherwise am suspending treatment for awhile.

My DMSO has arrived, but that will have to wait.

Edited by - gloe on 02/21/2014 10:09:32
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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2014 :  07:32:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quick update for me. I have been using the DMSO and Iodine with orange oil and a vitamin D capsule. I do this twice a day (vitamin D only once a day) I am starting to perfect the best way to put it together. Because I bought the roll on DMSO - I put the orange oil on then roll on the DMSO thinly over it. Then I wait about 10 minutes then I put the iodine on - give it five then roll more DMSO on. If I am going to add the vitamin D - I snip open a capsule and rub that over about 5- 10- minutes after. I like the results so far.
Couple of notes: The DMSO I purchased was the 3 oz roll on (99% and 90% by volume) from FWI Tulsa. I didn't look for a no odor formula but this one really is mild - I kept waiting for the garlic - sulfur issues and none. The second thing is I had a raised scar on my nose from a car accident over 30 years ago and the Basal Cell apparently had invaded that as well. The vitamin C from the first treatment seemed to clean that out but the DMSO over the last few days has made the scar flatten out and almost disappear! I was not trying for this at all (so used to it) so I am really impressed by this healing effect.
Lastly, I am still waiting for my black Cumin oil and frankincense oil -
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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2014 :  07:36:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OOPs I forgot to mention my best friends; Aloe direct from the plant and Trader Joes coconut oil. I use both all day whenever I need to.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2014 :  06:10:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, thanks for the update. That seems like a good combo. Yes, aloe seems wonderful to calm things down. Also, I like to put a green tea bag compress on the area in the morning. I brew my tea, take the tea bag out, and press it to the area while I drink my tea and read the morning news. I use Whole Foods 365 brand organic green tea. Very cheap (something like $3.99 for 70 tea bags, last time I bought it.)

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

Quick update for me. I have been using the DMSO and Iodine with orange oil and a vitamin D capsule. I do this twice a day (vitamin D only once a day) I am starting to perfect the best way to put it together. Because I bought the roll on DMSO - I put the orange oil on then roll on the DMSO thinly over it. Then I wait about 10 minutes then I put the iodine on - give it five then roll more DMSO on. If I am going to add the vitamin D - I snip open a capsule and rub that over about 5- 10- minutes after. I like the results so far.
Couple of notes: The DMSO I purchased was the 3 oz roll on (99% and 90% by volume) from FWI Tulsa. I didn't look for a no odor formula but this one really is mild - I kept waiting for the garlic - sulfur issues and none. The second thing is I had a raised scar on my nose from a car accident over 30 years ago and the Basal Cell apparently had invaded that as well. The vitamin C from the first treatment seemed to clean that out but the DMSO over the last few days has made the scar flatten out and almost disappear! I was not trying for this at all (so used to it) so I am really impressed by this healing effect.
Lastly, I am still waiting for my black Cumin oil and frankincense oil -

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Lynn8384

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2014 :  14:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got my black Cumin seed oil and frankincense today so I decided to suspend the iodine treatments and replace with DMSO and Black cumin Seed Oil and frankincense oil. I am doing this twice a day along with rubbing orange oil and aloe and coconut oil whenever I have a moment - probably an additional 4-5 times a day. I have a ways to go but I did cancel my March 10 surgery and I have complete confidence that I will be cancer free in one month. I did order Curaderm - just in case - but not sure that I am going to use that.
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Nanoagain

35 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2014 :  06:22:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love to hear when people cancel their surgeries!

One thing that I have been doing is to treat the whole face, not just the lesions, with something antiviral. Others on here have posted about "chasing the dragon" across their face, ie one spot gets eradicated and another pops up somewhere else.

In retrospect, my own cancer was already well established in a second spot by the time I had the MOHs. There was a definite crawling sensation at the new spot and a growth popped up after my surgery.

This is not to alarm you (lots of people here have one spot and no more), but to mention that skin cancer acts like an infection. I've been using an iodine and coconut oil mixture on my face and ears and also fresh aloe juice.

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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2014 :  05:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lynn, that's great that you cancelled your surgery. I hope all goes well for you.

Could you provide a link to the black cumin seed product you bought?

My doctor told me he doesn't think I need to burn the heck out of my skin in order to get rid of this thing. He thinks the answer is in balancing my metabolism, and he said I am not eating enough meat! (But it must be organic and free range . . .)

I will continue working on the inside out, and also still plan to experiment on the topicals.

My rash has cleared up, my skin has calmed down, and I am about ready to hit this with the DMSO+iodine, plus my oil combo, and some other things I am considering from reading here. Lots of good ideas, including the thread "combos and one that works" by rocco. I made a list of different combo ideas and they number over 20 . . .

I read on the cancertutor site that it is advisable to follow a DMSO-based treatmenbt with "MSM Water" -- the MSM will prevent the DMSO from irritating the skin. Then I read at the mercola site, that aloe vera contains loads of MSM! So I think I will follow my DMSO-based treatments with a swipe of aloe. I wonder if the MSM content of aloe is what makes it so soothing to the skin . . .

For the past few days I have been applying H202 about an hour after my green tea compress; and then yesterday started putting the 3-oil combo on (carefully).

Onward and upward, as they say . . .

Keep posting your progress . . .

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

Got my black Cumin seed oil and frankincense today so I decided to suspend the iodine treatments and replace with DMSO and Black cumin Seed Oil and frankincense oil. I am doing this twice a day along with rubbing orange oil and aloe and coconut oil whenever I have a moment - probably an additional 4-5 times a day. I have a ways to go but I did cancel my March 10 surgery and I have complete confidence that I will be cancer free in one month. I did order Curaderm - just in case - but not sure that I am going to use that.

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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2014 :  05:16:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Nano, I also wish you the best with your treatments. The "infection" nature of these problems is why I am so intent on treating orally as well as topically. I have added IP6+Inositol to my vitamin regimin. I take 4, 2 times a day on an empty stomach. It is the Cell Forte Enzymatic Therapy brand. What I do is take my pancreas on an empty stomach, then 2 hours later, I take the IP6. Then one hour later I can eat! I do that morning and night, and mid-day, between my 2 meals, I take more pancreas.

I got LEF's Selenium Complex (capsules), which has a few different forms of selenium. Maybe one is better absorbed through the skin than others. I plan to work the selenium into my combo treatment, "layering" one after the other. Have not yet decded exactly what I will do . . .

Keep posting and let us know how you are doing . .
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Originally posted by Nanoagain

Love to hear when people cancel their surgeries!

One thing that I have been doing is to treat the whole face, not just the lesions, with something antiviral. Others on here have posted about "chasing the dragon" across their face, ie one spot gets eradicated and another pops up somewhere else.

In retrospect, my own cancer was already well established in a second spot by the time I had the MOHs. There was a definite crawling sensation at the new spot and a growth popped up after my surgery.

This is not to alarm you (lots of people here have one spot and no more), but to mention that skin cancer acts like an infection. I've been using an iodine and coconut oil mixture on my face and ears and also fresh aloe juice.



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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2014 :  05:21:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I just wanted to mention, I have a few packets of cymilium left from last summer, and I will work that into my combo treatments. I will post exactly what I am doing once I work it all out for myself. You might be interested in this thread: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146&SearchTerms=rocco

I found this very helpful in thinking about "layering" one treatment after another.
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2014 :  06:49:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Zyflamend -- wow!

I was reading around the forum, and came upon a post (by dan I think) about Zyflamend. Look at the list of ingredients: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/new-chapter-zyflamend-60-softgels/cn-2029#.Uw9Pj_ldWSo

All in an oil base that is apparently non-GMO (organic sunflower oil base; to be called "organic" it cannot be GMO.). There are so many things in here that people are experimenting with as a topical: tumeric, green tea, holy basil, oregano, etc. All in a nice convenient combo.

What a nice combo. Also read the thread on "red clover" about some other combos that have helped people.

Edited by - gloe on 02/27/2014 06:50:17
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Nanoagain

35 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2014 :  14:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Gloe! I envy you being able to consult with Dr. G in NYC--he seems like a very intelligent and compassionate person.

My lesions are still closed over, but are still red colored. Using plain iodine on the one which is near my incision and trying to work up the courage to try it with DMSO. It just gets so itchy and burns.

Am also trying castor oil and baking soda on a new growth near my eye. I am ready to start some serious selenium supplementation. There are a lot of bumps and plaques things around my eyes that are just too hard to treat topically.

Gloe, did your rash ever clear up?
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2014 :  17:37:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Nano,

Yes, my rash has cleared up and I have been hitting the affected area with my oil combo, but more carefully to just apply a little. Still, it does tend to migrate to other areas . . .

Nano, I am no longer so afraid of using the DMSO in a combo, especially since I read the stuff on cancertutor about how to use DMSO. They say to apply "MSM Water" (MSM powder mixed in water) about 10-15 minutes after the DMSO treatment, and the MSM will prevent the DMSO from irritating your skin. Well, aloe vera is loaded with MSM (according to a Dr. Mercola article I read) so I am going to apply aloe a little after the DMSO application. I mixed my SSKI with DMSO 50/50 but I am going to wait a few more days to let things calm down before I use it. I did try it on my arm and it did not irritate it . . . And I didn't get a bad garlic taste in my mouth. So I will see how it goes. I bought this DMSO: http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-99-995%25-Pharma-Grade-Liquid/dp/B009L6NW4U/ref=sr_1_7?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1393550376&sr=1-7&keywords=DMSO

It's really much more expensive than other kinds, but it is the only one I found that claims to be pharmaceutical grade. Several years ago I used another (much less expensive) brand of DMSO (the one with the tree on it) for another problem, and even very dilute, it gave me a horrid garlic taste in my mouth. So, I am pleased so far with the one I bought.

Keep posting your progress. I will . . . Sometimes I get really upset and scared about what is going on near my nose. It seems I started out with one tiny little bump that I could hardly see, and now it is a mess. I KNOW topical treatments tend to make things look worse before they look better, but of course I have my insecurities like everyone else. (Did I make it worse? Do I have cancer in all those spots? etc.)

Nano, I really wish you the best. You might want to take a look at Life Extension Super Selenium Complex. It has 3 different kinds of selenium plus some vitamin E.

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Originally posted by Nanoagain

Thanks, Gloe! I envy you being able to consult with Dr. G in NYC--he seems like a very intelligent and compassionate person.

My lesions are still closed over, but are still red colored. Using plain iodine on the one which is near my incision and trying to work up the courage to try it with DMSO. It just gets so itchy and burns.

Am also trying castor oil and baking soda on a new growth near my eye. I am ready to start some serious selenium supplementation. There are a lot of bumps and plaques things around my eyes that are just too hard to treat topically.

Gloe, did your rash ever clear up?


Edited by - gloe on 02/27/2014 17:40:12
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gloe

124 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2014 :  08:16:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, how are you doing? Let us hear from you.

I discovered that it was probably the coconut oil component of my oil combo that gave me the rash. So I have not used the oil combo for several days. Just using: the green tea bag compress, followed by a good soaking with 3% H2O2 (just drug store brand); followed a bit later by Burt's Bees Rescue Ointment, which they no longer make. At least the last time I looked. The closest thing to this is their diaper ointment, but it is not the same. Used to be exactly the same, but they changed the formula several years ago, adding a bunch a chemicals to it. Isn't that lovely. Anyway, the coconut oil is Garden of Life Organic Extra Virgin, which I have used on my underarms during the winter as a natural deodorant, and never got a rash. But on my face, I break out. So does my mother. I used up all my Neem Oil in my combo, so no more Neem for now. (Hey, it stinks anyway.)

I may try a little of my oil combo on my underarms . . . I never did add my jasmine oil to my oil combo. It smells so heavenly, I put a few drops on my pillow and the collar of an old T-shirt I wear around the house. I may try it on my face; not sure.

Other issues -- besides that I now have numerous bumps on the side of my nose where I only had one to start out with, I have other issues. For years, I have had a red bump, somewhat under the skin, on the bridge of my nose. Just haven't dealt with it. Now I am putting the same topicals on it that I use on the side. Also, during the course of my vitamin C paste treatment, some vit C saturated water had leaked down the side of my face to under my nostril on that side. So then, a somewhat crusty small bump erupted there that has never gone away. This was I think early summer last year. Need to treat that, too. Finally, in the "good news" department, I also had had (for years) a raised red bump on the nostril on that side. When the vit C water leaked down onto it, it crusted up and peeled off, never (yet) to return.

I still have not gotten up the courage to use any DMSO combo on my face, though I have been putting DMSO/SSKI on some nails that are infected. In the meantime I decided to try an oil combo on my face that I bought for an ear infection. It is Herb Pharm brand "Mullein Garlic Ear Oil" which I got from amazon.com. It is a bunch of anti-infective herbs, including garlic, in a base of organic olive oil. Not knowing how well this will penetrate my skin, I first put orange oil on the top and sides of my nose and the bump underneath the nostril, then followed with a drop of this ear oil and mixed it up right on my face. If this doesn't irritate my skin, I may start the DMSO combos in a few days.

Scary stuff on-line looking at pictures of MOHS surgery results -- people go in with one little bump on their face and end up with a huge (half-dollar sized) area of skin removed. And skin grafts. The explanation is that skin cancer usually has spread underneath the skin before it pops out to the surface. If all my little bumps are cancer, no way I am having my face cut up like that. Not without a fight!

I am cosidering black cumin seed oil. I found Life Extention has it in capsules that one could open up to use topically. (So many ideas out there!)

I ordered curcumin caps to take orally. I read that skin cancer is one of a few cancers that are particularly vulnerable to curcumin. I ordered the Sources Natural brand with Meriva. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ICYO8K/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am absolutely convinced that, given the way BCC and SCC spread, these conditions MUST be addressed orally, from the inside, as well as the outside.

Would really like to hear how people are doing.

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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2014 :  14:34:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Glo

I have to admit - I did the same - going online and looking at the Moh's surgery pics…I know that my entire tip would be gone and the cheek stays to fix it are not pretty…. I have had the same issues that you have in that it is not one bump or area to deal with but a large area that may or may not be a problem with suspicious new areas "popping up". Can be so frustrating. I am a little (a lot) ADD in trying out combos….I think essential oils are really great so I mix frankincense with a little orange oil and some Rosehips oil and throw in some Black cumin seed oil then I put that on my nose and roll on the DMSO over it. Then all day I put just the oil or frankincense or oxygenated hemp oil (however many times I feel like it) then at night I have gone back to the iodine and DMSO then add frankincense. I take a Tablespoon of raw honey, cinnamon and black cumin seed oil twice a day. Also take a combo dose of spirulina and astaxanthin twice a day. I agree you need to work inside and out both. I almost want to say that this is the best thing that ever happened to me - because I feel so empowered to take charge of my health and body instead of blindly relying on the pharmaceutical trained doctors to do it. I have been making my own fascial serum and my skin looks the best it ever has. I made my own shaving cream yesterday and have the supplies to make my own deodorant, face masks, eye cream and even make up. I want to encourage you to try the DMSO - I was really nervous at first but I put it right on open wounds and it was ok. have aloe to add for soothing if you need to. The coconut oil I live by is the raw virgin oil from Trader Joes. I love that as well for soothing but not sure if you are allergic or not….I see real progress on my nose…
Where I am a little scared is that I received my curaderm today and not sure if I want to try it or not. I went through the big mess using the ascorbic acid then it healed - second big mess with the iodine and DMSO - now my nose is "almost" back to no open sores (but still have some dips and raised red areas with red vein lines and a small white scab in one area) and I get the strong impression that I would be going back down the "mess" road with the curaderm.
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Posted - 03/04/2014 :  03:12:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lynn, thanks for the encouragement. I needed that! While it would be nice to find the "magic bullet" -- that one substance that will take care of these problems -- I don't think it exists. And it makes sense to try to hit cancer from many different angles -- Dan posted on one of the threads about all the different "pathways" that can be addresed to kill cancer (from the old Grouppe Kurosawa wsebsite). Here it is http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146&SearchTerms=rocco This thread remains my inspiration for combo treatments.

You can start your Curaderm and back off if it gets too extreme; I think it would still do alot of good even if you don't use it quite as directed, given all the other stuff you have been using. I plan to do that with cymilium. With a DMSO mixture I know it will get deep into the tissue.

My 85 year old father has metastatic melanoma -- he had surgery last year for a spot on his leg as well as removal of all lymph nodes on that side of his groin; now he has it all over that leg. So much for conventional treatments! But he won't try anything "alternative." So that is on my mind as well.

I'm glad you are doing well. Don't be a stranger!

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

Hi Glo

I have to admit - I did the same - going online and looking at the Moh's surgery pics…I know that my entire tip would be gone and the cheek stays to fix it are not pretty…. I have had the same issues that you have in that it is not one bump or area to deal with but a large area that may or may not be a problem with suspicious new areas "popping up". Can be so frustrating. I am a little (a lot) ADD in trying out combos….I think essential oils are really great so I mix frankincense with a little orange oil and some Rosehips oil and throw in some Black cumin seed oil then I put that on my nose and roll on the DMSO over it. Then all day I put just the oil or frankincense or oxygenated hemp oil (however many times I feel like it) then at night I have gone back to the iodine and DMSO then add frankincense. I take a Tablespoon of raw honey, cinnamon and black cumin seed oil twice a day. Also take a combo dose of spirulina and astaxanthin twice a day. I agree you need to work inside and out both. I almost want to say that this is the best thing that ever happened to me - because I feel so empowered to take charge of my health and body instead of blindly relying on the pharmaceutical trained doctors to do it. I have been making my own fascial serum and my skin looks the best it ever has. I made my own shaving cream yesterday and have the supplies to make my own deodorant, face masks, eye cream and even make up. I want to encourage you to try the DMSO - I was really nervous at first but I put it right on open wounds and it was ok. have aloe to add for soothing if you need to. The coconut oil I live by is the raw virgin oil from Trader Joes. I love that as well for soothing but not sure if you are allergic or not….I see real progress on my nose…
Where I am a little scared is that I received my curaderm today and not sure if I want to try it or not. I went through the big mess using the ascorbic acid then it healed - second big mess with the iodine and DMSO - now my nose is "almost" back to no open sores (but still have some dips and raised red areas with red vein lines and a small white scab in one area) and I get the strong impression that I would be going back down the "mess" road with the curaderm.

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Posted - 03/04/2014 :  10:36:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I looked at my face with my glasses on, and it does look better. Still lots of bumps in the affected area. I mixed some of the "ear oil" with a little orange oil in my empty neem oil bottle (with a tiny bit of neem left), so I will use that.

I ordered tamanu oil as it is the most healing oil I know of, and is recommended by the Curaderm author to help skin heal.


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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/05/2014 :  18:11:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It really is hard to see the nuances of what's going on….I have a 15X compact mirror that I look at my nose with (about 30 times a day) It helps keep me on my toes to what is helping and what isn't. My mom is in California and got me some medical cannabis oil she is sending…will be trying that next week (not sure if I should use DMSO with it or not).
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Posted - 03/08/2014 :  02:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My friend in Cali won't ship any to me, too dangerous he says. I plan to be going back at some point this summer, and I will use it then.

I don't think it needs DMSO . . .

I started using the DMSO+SSKI yesterday. I first applied the "ear oil combo" I made up, and put the DMSO mix on top of it. Got a strong sting reaction that lasted only a few seconds, telling me that the DMSO mix penetrated right through the oil.

Onward and upward!

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

It really is hard to see the nuances of what's going on….I have a 15X compact mirror that I look at my nose with (about 30 times a day) It helps keep me on my toes to what is helping and what isn't. My mom is in California and got me some medical cannabis oil she is sending…will be trying that next week (not sure if I should use DMSO with it or not).

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Posted - 03/10/2014 :  07:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Starting oral and topical (with DMSO) artemisinin today. Will use it 5 days on, 5 days off, both the oral and topical. http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1657

On the "off" days I will take my regular supplements and will use something else on my face. Probably DMSO+SSKI followed by DMSO+IP6.

Will report back.
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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/11/2014 :  09:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got back from Arizona trip. I found that there is something to the dry weather that really makes quick work of any healing process. I live in Florida and the humidity must really have slow down the healing. -From the first day there I noticed how quickly my skin dried up and after 5 days I am as healed as I am going to get - but I still have some of the areas that will need to be addressed as they still have that hard, white plaque looking stuff. Some on the surface and some below. Not sure if that is dead skin or what. On the fence about whether to go to curaderm or to get back out the ascorbic acid.
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Posted - 03/11/2014 :  11:06:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I totally agree. My skin looked alot better after almost 4 weeks in the California desert. (I live in NJ -- very humid, though not as bad as FL.) Recently, for two days in a row, I put some Sonne's Bentonite liquid on my face, and it dried up alot of stuff and things looked much better. May be something to this "fungus" theory of cancer after all.

Just overnight using the artemisinin I see a big improvement . . . don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Ordered petty spurge seeds just in case. :-)

Lynn, since you will have an extract of a medicinal herb from Cali to use, I would go with that before I burned my face up with Curaderm or vit C. To dry things up, try a clay facial mask or what I used: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/sonne-organic-foods-sonne-no-7-detoxification-32-fl-oz/sn-1002?sourceType=sc&source=FG&adGroup=20-40&keyword=SN-1002&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Product+Listing+Ads-_-20-40-_-SN-1002&gclid=CO_Wg6uLi70CFcPm7AodOE8AuA&gclsrc=aw.ds#.Ux9SxfmwJcQ That's a great price.

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

Just got back from Arizona trip. I found that there is something to the dry weather that really makes quick work of any healing process. I live in Florida and the humidity must really have slow down the healing. -From the first day there I noticed how quickly my skin dried up and after 5 days I am as healed as I am going to get - but I still have some of the areas that will need to be addressed as they still have that hard, white plaque looking stuff. Some on the surface and some below. Not sure if that is dead skin or what. On the fence about whether to go to curaderm or to get back out the ascorbic acid.


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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/12/2014 :  16:41:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks Gloe….I think I will go with it for a week or two - I am more than a little scared to break out the curaderm (it is sitting very innocently looking in my refrigerator) tomorrow I should get my Calif medicinal oil….I have read a lot of good things about the success rate - so I will TRY to be patient a stick with it for a couple of weeks…might throw some DMSO and iodine in every now and then. I really think the fungus thing has some merit. I did get the initial "sore" when I lived in California over 7 years ago - but the growth rate in Florida has been astronomical - so I am really going to turn my attention a little more toward the possible fungus theory. I will be back in Arizona for a week in late May - so that is perfect timing to work on my nose between now and then and see if the dry air gives it a final "kick". I am not familiar with artemisinin - I will look up and maybe add to my regiment.
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  09:00:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I posted some info about artemisinin here: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1657

I'm doing alot better with the artemisinin. Some of the improvement could be due to the topical bentonite clay facials, but hard to know. I am not going to change anything!

If I were you, I would give the medicinal herb a month to work before spending another penny on other topicals.

I ordered petty spurge seeds, just in case, because I am tired of all the $$ I have spent and tired of all the fooling around with this. The seeds are really inexpensive, even with the shipping charges from Australia. I haven't received them yet, but it would be nice to have a good supply that I will then share . . . I read the entire thread on petty spurge -- lots of good info plus pictures. I just hope my seeds germinate. But even with the PS, I want to continue oral treatment, and artemisinin might be a good one to take for a while. Of course, I will supplement with extracts of the medicinal herb whenever I get the chance. :-)

There's a separate thread for the medicinal herb. Let us know how you are doing with it!

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Originally posted by Lynn8384

thanks Gloe….I think I will go with it for a week or two - I am more than a little scared to break out the curaderm (it is sitting very innocently looking in my refrigerator) tomorrow I should get my Calif medicinal oil….I have read a lot of good things about the success rate - so I will TRY to be patient a stick with it for a couple of weeks…might throw some DMSO and iodine in every now and then. I really think the fungus thing has some merit. I did get the initial "sore" when I lived in California over 7 years ago - but the growth rate in Florida has been astronomical - so I am really going to turn my attention a little more toward the possible fungus theory. I will be back in Arizona for a week in late May - so that is perfect timing to work on my nose between now and then and see if the dry air gives it a final "kick". I am not familiar with artemisinin - I will look up and maybe add to my regiment.

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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/19/2014 :  21:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After almost 2 months of continual treatments for my BCC - this is my report to date:
1. I think that different types and stages of basal cell issues probably need and respond to different types of treatments
2. at the different stages of healing progression - different types of treatments are needed
3. Location of the BCC is important as well

So over the last two months I read all the posts and spent hours and hours on line reading and reading…Then I ordered and bought and tried lots of things…..the frustrating part is that it takes a little time to experiment and guess whether you are doing anything or not. Then for everyone reading the goal is to share and help each other to build on successes but I have found that, for me, often there is not enough info on the actual, physical circumstances as well as what physical progress is being made for the reader to relate to and build on. I am as guilty of everyone else on this…I haven't given a very clear idea of what I am working on and what is happening during the treatments. Pictures would be the very best….not sure how to even post anything…any help on that?

So I am going to try to be more specific and format my updates in a way that anyone who reads my posts will be able to make better decisions whether to try what I tried or not. Also, that will allow them to build on what I am doing and report back what works and what doesn't.

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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 03/19/2014 :  22:16:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Condition: Superficial BCC on tip of nose - confirmed by biopsy.
Appearance: One red area, sometimes bleeds, as well as a depressed scar like area and various raised red areas surrounding fairly large area. Additional problem of old car accident scar which BCC appears to have spread into as well.
Concern: How much additional area underneath - depth and width - does the BCC go?
Other: 6 years ago a "suspicious" growth area on my nose (I wasn't at dermatologist for that spot but to have a skin tag on arm removed) was burned off with nitrogen - he said likely an AK and not to worry. I didn't think about it again except that I was annoyed that he left fairly big dent on my nose. This area later turned into an area that bled every now and then - I though because skin was too thin from the removal. Two years ago I really noticed it looked worse but didn't have time to deal with it - never thought it was a big deal and could handle anytime. So now I have a 6 years of BCC growth to deal with - which now appears to be taking up most of the tip of my nose.

1st. Stage - I used Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C - within a few days I had a fairly swollen nose with lots of open wound looking areas - pain was fairly bad but with coconut oil and aloe - bearable.
Problem: Not certain when to stop - I had a huge area that showed problems at different degrees - I had many areas that showed specific width and depth and these opened right away - I thought I at least I knew where the BCC went but then two more areas did not get opened but looked like they would in a another couple of days. I didn't want to keep going opening more areas - thought I could let the areas I already had open - heal then go back and get the other two areas. My nose looked really great at first when it healed but soon I could see the original problems were still there - better but there. I think that the ascorbic acid got rid of some of the BCC but not all.
phase 2: I decided to go at it again - this time I introduced iodine and DMSO into the equation along with frankincense essential oil. I quit using the vitamin C and focused on the iodine - all the areas burned a little and various swollen areas over tip of my nose but since I really didn't have one specific area - difficult to report on success. No real pain.
phase 3: Healing forever (I hope) of one area. I have been using cannibus oil (sometimes with DMSO) for the last 5 days and the original area that wouldn't heal finally appears healed - still depressed but looks healed. The next main issue is the previously flat scar area surrounding the sore that has raised up into a hard, scar like a shallow hill. I could see and feel hard, yellow like plaque under the skin but didn't know if it was dead skin, or just reaction to all the "stuff" I had been using but the vitamin C didn't open up this area - the cannibus oil caused it to raise up and react - will report of progress in next couple of days. The other concern are the two areas that I reported on previously that I need to make some progress on besides raised, pink and suspicious.

Thoughts: will stick for 5 more days to cannibus and maybe some DMSO - if the raised hill area doesn't seem to be making any progress I will start with ascorbic Acid and see if it responds and opens then I will make new plans which will include cannibus and or iodine.

Conclusion: I have various stages of growth of the BCC - so the areas on my nose will respond differently to the treatments and may need different treatments at the same time. Ascorbic C on area, iodine on another and cannibus on another….that's complicated and physically difficult…

I would love anyone's input - especially those who have been at this…FOREVER…..I have confidence that there are cures but for some of the situations - it is not so cut and dry what to use and how to use it. If we could see how the BCC looked at a specific time and what treatment that calls for - it would be much easier to build on each other's treatments.
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Posted - 03/20/2014 :  08:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I looked at that youtube video for medicinal grade hemp oil, and he said that it "brought out" cancer areas. I certainly feel that is what is happening to me with various topicals (not cannabis), that there are other "things" popping out in the general area. Unless we have all this biopsied, it is impossible to know if they are all cancer or pre-cancer.

I think you are extremely lucky to have real hemp oil available, and I would go with that for a while before hitting it with other things.

My skin is so much better looking with a few days of only washing, bentonite facial (morning only) then the Gaia Plantain salve applied twice a day. I now feel 2 distinct pimple-like bumps coming up (and hopefully) out. But I seem to have what looks like scar tissue in the general are -- red and flat with jagged edges. Hope it's only scar tissue.

I will hit the area again with a DMSO combo (probably the Artemisinin) washing it off after 30 min or so and following with a healing salve, either the Gaia salve, or Lucas PawPaw ointment. I also purchased Medihoney which I have used in the past for skin infections, just in case. (I was convinced for a while that I had given myself an infection.)

My petty spurge seeds arrived and I will probably get a chance to get them started today. It's still pretty chilly in the NE USA, especially the nights. They may do well in this climate.

It would be hard/impossible I think to treat an area with different things at the same time, unless you layer them on (something with DMSO, wash off after 30 minutes, then apply something else, etc.)

Best of luck . . . and keep us informed. I keep a daily diary of everything I do and how my skin looks/feels, and my thoughts, so I have a record.

gloe
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jamiesunshine3

USA
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Posted - 03/21/2014 :  11:57:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Gloe and Lynn.
I am very new to all this. I finally finsihsed reading everything. Which I porbably should have done.
I started out treating my BCC on my forehead above my eye in dec 2013. NOt knowing much but reading adn unsure. I'm very add about this whole.
I just went out to the store and bought some Vit c powerd. Put it on there under a bandage was very surprised how qucikly it racted a grew. I am very add. SO I attacked it with the vit c powder. IT was so painful.
I did not know when to stop the the vit c paste or anything. All I know is I covered it up and put it on for days until it stoped getting larger. I was impressed.
I did not understand how the cancer woudl fall off. Since I could not find any more post like the ones I have read all day today. I cant find pics either.
My scab turned yellow and hard. I picked it off. Which as a bad bad idea. left a nice dip in my skin.
I was really worried the whole would not heal. But now its healed. No cancer.
NOw I had a spot on the bridge of my nose where your glases go. I thought I jsut bumped it.
Again its been months now.
I HAVE DECIDED TO INSPECT MY FACE EVERYDAY. FINDING THE SPOT ASAP IS THE BEST WAY TO GO. NOT LETTING NO SPOT UNCOVERED.
I let the spot go. I wish i would had let it go at lest one moer week before my vaca on the 28 of march. UGHH.
So I just got a little vit c powder put it on. IT exploded.
Its been 3 days now . I take a brake the with vit c powder paste at night time. But this morning was very very painful. As I have been putting the paste more spots appeared. I Figure lets get it all done now. NOw there seems no more spots appearing.
Its stopped bleeding and just forming a ugly scab.
I did order the sodium ascorbate C today because I cant handle the pain anymore.
Questions
WHen do you stop putting the vit c?
I havent decided to mix things should I like the DMSO and other oils?
I do live in florida as well.
Picutres I Would love to see pictures.
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Posted - 03/21/2014 :  12:54:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jamie, I admire your bravery for going through with the vitamin C. I never got beyond 4 days (once per day). I couldn't take the pain.

If I were to try this again I would put it on at night and leave all night; for 1 to 2 weeks. Possibly closer to 2. (Sorry but you need to decide for yourself how to go about this.) And don't pick off the thick scab that will form. :-) During the day I would apply some kind of soothing ointment, like Lucas' Papaw ointment or Gaia Herbs Plantain ointment. Be careful with the latkter as someone posted that she got an extreme reaction from it (it has some bloodroot in it).

It is very common in doing these topical treatments that more spots will "pop up" here and there. Alot of people report that and it happened to me too.

This doctor claims to have cured himself of BCC with vitamin C and DMSO; and then with vitamin C + DMSO + vitamin A. http://www.whitakerwellness.com/health-concerns/alternative-cancer-treatments/skin-cancer-treatment/

I see you found the vitamin C thread. Go through all the posts; I think someone posted pictures there.

I have my Petty Spurge seeds trying to germinate, so if I get good plants out of them, I will be trying that (at least as an indicator that there is still something there).

Best of luck.

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Originally posted by jamiesunshine3

Hey Gloe and Lynn.
I am very new to all this. I finally finsihsed reading everything. Which I porbably should have done.
I started out treating my BCC on my forehead above my eye in dec 2013. NOt knowing much but reading adn unsure. I'm very add about this whole.
I just went out to the store and bought some Vit c powerd. Put it on there under a bandage was very surprised how qucikly it racted a grew. I am very add. SO I attacked it with the vit c powder. IT was so painful.
I did not know when to stop the the vit c paste or anything. All I know is I covered it up and put it on for days until it stoped getting larger. I was impressed.
I did not understand how the cancer woudl fall off. Since I could not find any more post like the ones I have read all day today. I cant find pics either.
My scab turned yellow and hard. I picked it off. Which as a bad bad idea. left a nice dip in my skin.
I was really worried the whole would not heal. But now its healed. No cancer.
NOw I had a spot on the bridge of my nose where your glases go. I thought I jsut bumped it.
Again its been months now.
I HAVE DECIDED TO INSPECT MY FACE EVERYDAY. FINDING THE SPOT ASAP IS THE BEST WAY TO GO. NOT LETTING NO SPOT UNCOVERED.
I let the spot go. I wish i would had let it go at lest one moer week before my vaca on the 28 of march. UGHH.
So I just got a little vit c powder put it on. IT exploded.
Its been 3 days now . I take a brake the with vit c powder paste at night time. But this morning was very very painful. As I have been putting the paste more spots appeared. I Figure lets get it all done now. NOw there seems no more spots appearing.
Its stopped bleeding and just forming a ugly scab.
I did order the sodium ascorbate C today because I cant handle the pain anymore.
Questions
WHen do you stop putting the vit c?
I havent decided to mix things should I like the DMSO and other oils?
I do live in florida as well.
Picutres I Would love to see pictures.

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Posted - 04/04/2014 :  13:12:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Had been using DMSO+Artemisinin for a bit. Then it occured to me that maybe the DMSO alone is responsible for my improvement. So for 8 days now I have been using (2 or 3 times a day) just the DMSO mixed 50/50 with distilled water; wash off after 30 min; apply a healing salve or other ointment. I have used Medihoney, the messiest of the bunch; Argentyn 23 Gel (VERY easy to use, clear gel that stays put); Gaia Plaintain ointment; and Lucas' Papaw ointment. Of all these, I think I got the best result with Medihoney. Of course.

Once per day I use Sonne's Liquid Bentonite clay after the DMSO, and before the ointment/salve.

Still making slow, steady progress, with some backsliding, such as when I don't sleep very much at night, the next day the area looks worse.



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Posted - 04/05/2014 :  12:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess alot of stress and lack of good sleep has made my skin worse. I decided to hit it with another combo -- DMSO+IP6. Also taking IP6 orally (it must be taken on an empty stomach). There's lots of info on-line about the cancer fighting benefits of IP6 -- including used topically for skin cancer. More info here from rocco: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146&SearchTerms=ip6

IP6 mixes very well with DMSO (Artemisinin did not mix well). Another difference is that when mixed with the IP6, the DMSO did not itch/burn/irritate at all. In fact, I lost track of the time and didn't wash it off for 45 minutes. Then followed with the Plantain salve. (For the record, I am using the Enzymatic Therapy Cell Forte IP6+Inositol. Seems vitaminshoppe is having a sale on the 240 cap size -- it was cheaper than the 120 cap size.) I poured a small amount of DMSO mixed 50/50 with distilled water, into another small (clean) glass jar, then opened one cap of IP6 and mixed it up with a clean finger. Then applied with my finger. Storing the excess in the fridge. I am pretty paranoid about using DMSO, so after washing my hands and face with soap and tap water, I rinse off with distilled water. I did buy organic, unbleached cotton swabs (like Q-tips) but I find it easy enough to just use my finger.

Hope everyone is doing well. My petty spurge seeds all seem to have germinated, and I now have a crop of tiny seedlings.

P.S. I found this free book about IP6+Inositol. http://www.inocell.com/pdf/toogoodtobetrue.pdf

Edited by - gloe on 04/05/2014 13:43:31
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Lynn8384

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Posted - 04/08/2014 :  18:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gloe

I guess alot of stress and lack of good sleep has made my skin worse. I decided to hit it with another combo -- DMSO+IP6. Also taking IP6 orally (it must be taken on an empty stomach). There's lots of info on-line about the cancer fighting benefits of IP6 -- including used topically for skin cancer. More info here from rocco: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146&SearchTerms=ip6

IP6 mixes very well with DMSO (Artemisinin did not mix well). Another difference is that when mixed with the IP6, the DMSO did not itch/burn/irritate at all. In fact, I lost track of the time and didn't wash it off for 45 minutes. Then followed with the Plantain salve. (For the record, I am using the Enzymatic Therapy Cell Forte IP6+Inositol. Seems vitaminshoppe is having a sale on the 240 cap size -- it was cheaper than the 120 cap size.) I poured a small amount of DMSO mixed 50/50 with distilled water, into another small (clean) glass jar, then opened one cap of IP6 and mixed it up with a clean finger. Then applied with my finger. Storing the excess in the fridge. I am pretty paranoid about using DMSO, so after washing my hands and face with soap and tap water, I rinse off with distilled water. I did buy organic, unbleached cotton swabs (like Q-tips) but I find it easy enough to just use my finger.

Hope everyone is doing well. My petty spurge seeds all seem to have germinated, and I now have a crop of tiny seedlings.

P.S. I found this free book about IP6+Inositol. http://www.inocell.com/pdf/toogoodtobetrue.pdf

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Lynn8384

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Posted - 04/08/2014 :  18:39:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops sorry - didn't get my reply in above…..I had never heard of ip6 - so I read about it as well….very interesting. Question is why do you wash the DMSO off? I have just left mine on…I have mixed it with cannibus oil at night and sleep all night with it on. After I get through the initial annoyance (first 15 minutes or so) it is fine. The first couple of times I put DMSO on - it was very hot on my skin - but the last few weeks hasn't been hot any more - just a little itchy. I just wondered if you were concerned about inflammation or other issues?
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Nanoagain

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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  04:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the IP6 link, gloe. Great article to add to the skin cancer arsenal!

I was taking IP6 a while back for anxiety, then stopped. Maybe it's time to break it out again.
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gloe

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Posted - 04/10/2014 :  10:11:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Nano and Lynn, thanks for keeping in touch. I wash off the DMSO treatment because I read that it will cause severe skin irritation if left on. It will carry substances into the skin very rapidly and there is no reason to leave it on. And, the IP6 and Artemisinin both leave a white powder residue, so at least when I go out, I'd rather rinse it off.

No more progress to rpost. I am keeping a detailed journal of every single thing I do, so I will have a record, but I am using so many oral supplements, including large doses of pancreatic enzymes, that I don't really think I will be able to say that one thing in particular was the "magic bullet."

Edited by - gloe on 04/10/2014 10:14:07
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Lynn8384

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Posted - 04/18/2014 :  16:12:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can totally relate to all the supplements. When I first started posting in late January - I wasn't taking anything at all - now I take Black Cumin Seed oil, honey and cinnamon twice a day. I even used the manuka honey 16+ on my BCC last night - great healing help. I also take Krill oil and Astaxanthin and spirulina and vitamin D and lots of Vitamin C. . All this along with a 90% organic diet. Got rid of all my plastics, use glass instead or metal. Without a doubt the best result has come from the Cannibus oil and DMSO mix but all the rest has assisted like a team approach! I am really hopeful that once this last opening heals I will continue the cannibus for one more week - then focus on getting the scar tissue and delicate skin back in good shape then I will get a biopsy….
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gloe

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Posted - 05/12/2014 :  08:04:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few weeks ago I panicked and made a quick appointment with my HMO PCP. They said my face did not look like cancer, and refused my request for a derm doc referral.

I admit it did not look like cancer at the time, and I had had no bleeding or oozing for several weeks. I had been doing DMSO treatments consistently for a while. Most of the area looked merely red and was rough to the touch.

I laid off the DMSO treatments, and after about 2 weeks, I had distinct red (blood) scabs. What had been 4 sores and had healed to 2 sores plus some redness, was now 4 distict sores again. And some bleeding again. Looking very much like cancer.

So starting today, it's back to more DMSO based treatments. (The DMSO dissolved the scabs, but no more bleeding.) Waiting for my petty spurge to grow big enough to use.

Re: The derm doc, I had no intention of having surgery on this as they would have to remove half my nose, but I was hoping for FU-5 which I intended to mix with DMSO.

My HMO doc said I could come back in 3-6 months and they would look at my face again, . . . Gee, thanks.

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gloe

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Posted - 05/26/2014 :  08:48:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm having a pretty rough time. I'm really upset. I added vitamin C to my routine mixed with DMSO and left it on all day. Not getting better. I get scabs and bleeding when I wash it off that evening or the next morning. This can't be good.

The stress and lack of sleep is making my skin worse, to boot.

Back to what I was doing a month ago. Petty Spurge plants still too small to use.

Will check back.

Note to self: When something appears to be working, don't suspend treatment!



Edited by - gloe on 05/26/2014 08:50:23
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Nanoagain

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Posted - 05/26/2014 :  18:18:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep on keepin on, Gloe!
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gloe

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Posted - 05/28/2014 :  09:42:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nanoagain

Keep on keepin on, Gloe!



Thanks, Nano. Already looking and feeling better since I laid off the vitamin C. Amazing. My routine is now:

Morning: Wash with gentle soap; apply liquid bentonite clay (I use Sonne's brand) and keep on until dry. Rinse off the betonite, then rinse skin and fingers with distilled water; make a mixture (in a clean glass jar) of 1 cap of IP6+Inositol (I use Cell Forte brand) mixed with a little DMSO 50% diluted with distilled water. Apply to area with a clean finger. Leave on for 30 minutes or so. Rinse off and apply Argentyn 23 Gel (got mine from Amazon). Store leftover IP6 mix in fridge.

Evening, if I got really sweating during the day: Repeat above except leave off the bentonite.
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Lynn8384

USA
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Posted - 06/01/2014 :  06:50:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the hardest part of all these treatments is that we are just "guessing" so much. I have been really faithful about sticking to a healthy diet (basically no food containing GMO's and as organic as I can find). I also take the manuka honey, black cumin seed oil and cinnamon twice a day along with krill oil and astaxanthin, vitamin C & D. I use a few essential oils mixed in with my own face lotion I make (frankincense, tea tree oil) and rose hip oil. But I do use cannibus oil every night. I stopped using the DMSO with the cannibus oil and have gotten better results - I don't know if it is just a timing thing or works better with this treatment. There is a difference between converting the cancer cells and kiling them and I don't know if I was trying to do both at the same time with my treatments. I am very consistent with treatment and I have made tremendous progress - complete healing in a couple of areas as well as the opening of a couple of new areas but these are much smaller and quicker to heal. I don't know if they took so long because they were really deep or what but I am still using the cannibus oil at night and will be doing a biopsy probably in August or September. I think I would benefit from finding a holistic style doctor who could give me additional feedback on my progress so I will look into that this week. It is funny to note that I have had 2 calls from the Mohs surgery center trying to reschedule my Moh's appointment which I cancelled back in January - they keep pressing me with a reason why I won't reschedule yet - I keep letting them know I will call them but they keep me on speed dial anyway.
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gloe

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Posted - 06/02/2014 :  12:24:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I am glad you are doing so well.

Yes, the hardest part is that we really don't KNOW what will work. I posted that I stopped using vit C because it ulcerated my skin, but I do realize that the vit C might eventually heal it, even though it looked horrible for now. What I am doing now makes it look and feel so much better, but will it heal it?

I am putting my trust in what I am doing, including all the oral supplements, all organic food, juicing every day, including my home grown sprouts in my juice, detox, etc. I do not feel at risk that it will get worse while I am "fooling around" with topicals that make it look better.

My petty spurge seedlings are very happy since I pinched them back. I wonder if I will have the balls to use this on my face . . .

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gloe

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Posted - 06/16/2014 :  11:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess I found the balls. I started petty spurge applications this morning, so I posted over on that thread. I am getting too upset and too impatient to wait any longer.
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