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Barbara

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 :  12:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone had success with Curaderm? I want to order it but do not want to spend over 100- if it doesn't really work -thanks in advance

marsha

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 :  12:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been using curaderm for one year. I started out fast tracking.(that is putting it on 7 times a day) It started out with 3 or 4 small places including 1 diagnosed scc. The curaderm soon followed the roots of the basil cell all over my faces. The scc turned into a deep whole that almost went all the way through my nostril. Then my whole face heeled up with lots of compliments, except my nose. But I got tired of fast tracking and went to 2 times a day. So then I spent the next 6 mo. in a holding pattern. Last mo I decided to fast track and get this over with, My nostril is still filling in, but the tip of my nose has opened up again. marsha
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Barbara

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 :  14:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gosh, what do you mean open up again? Is it worse or improved? Are you happy with it and have you tried other things/I have this bcc for over 6 yrs, not going away but not getting bigger or doing anything but itch once in a blue moon
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Allie

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 :  14:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was planning on ordering Curaderm, but since marsha's post, I started questioning it's true effectiveness. It does seem curious that despite the 100% curative rate claimed by Curaderm, no one on topicalinfo has yet posted a conclusive positive result.

I googled "Curaderm scam" and came up with some discouraging information. One website claims that there are no records in Great Britain of the clinical trials claimed by Curaderm advertisers, and that the positive claims found on some forum websites actually came from the same source on Vanuata, which is where the Curaderm is sold from (not Australia).

I think I will not order the Curaderm after all. I'm currently applying eggplant, and although my lesions seem to have vastly improved after 5 weeks, they are still not fully healed. I plan to be patient a while longer, but will consider other possibilities, maybe including surgery if I can find someone who does MOHS.
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marsha

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2008 :  18:42:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im not saying it dosnt work. I started with a biopsied scc on the side of my nose. Plus I have basil cell other places. Ive had moe's. My mother had moe's, she lost half her top lip, half her noes. They can cut, but you better find one that can put you back togeather. Curaderm followed the basil roots all across my face. Up my nose, down to my ears. It was pretty scarry. I was fast tracking. Thats when you put it on up 7 times a day. My whole face has healed. Everyone says my skin looks great..except my nose. I got tired of doing it 7 times a day. I only did it twice a day. The cancer spots seemed to go into a holding stage. I started fast tracking again last mounth. I got results. All the skin peeled off the tip of my nose. The scc was a huge hole but now it has almost filled in. I havent had them biopsied again so I dont know for sure. marsha
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anivoc

286 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2008 :  00:41:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not a believer and I have a few hundred dollars invested in the cream.

I called they were pretty encouraging and instructive but the bottom line is I have not had success eradicating with curaderm. In some cases it did irritate the BCC but I was clearly unsuccessful in knocking them out.

I still have a few bottles and I am willing for the folks at Curaderm to come on out and prove me wrong. I'd love to be an advocate because the story sounds great.. It just didn't work for me.

I am having every bit as good of success, maybe better with Sunspot ES using the Curaderm method of covering the treated area.

The best information I got from the folks at curaderm was the 3m micropore tape and not letting the treated area dry out or scab over.



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Barbara

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2008 :  05:55:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did Sunspot-it didn't do anything. They can send men to the moon but can't find a cure for skin cancer *sigh*

thanks for the replies
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Allie

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2008 :  13:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marsha, that is encouraging about the Curaderm working well on so many other spots plus improvement on the nose spot. I'll keep an open mind on it then.

Anivoc, sorry the Curaderm didn't work well for you. Thanks for the information about keeping the area covered.

Right now, I'm still making good progress with the eggplant mix I'm using. If interested, I'm posting here at the forum on the eggplant thread.

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Barbara

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2008 :  16:33:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
going to read your "recipe" now Allie, thanks
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dan

440 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2008 :  21:22:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the link to the eggplant thread http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=143&whichpage=2
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anivoc

286 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2008 :  02:01:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barbara

I did Sunspot-it didn't do anything.



Following the sunspot directions, at best it just helped keep things at bay. The Sunspot directions do not instruct you to apply and then cover, just rub it on a few times a day.

Using the curaderm instructions with sunspot is another story completely and I am going through it right now again on a couple very stubborn BCC areas.

Having done bloodroot paste and knowing how fast, painful and hard it works, I can only equate applying sunspot via the curaderm instructions is eating away my BCC's sloooowly but a lot less painfully.

I had my first success with the sunspot about 8 months ago.. a small retuning bcc @ 1/16th of an inch started bleeding. I started applying the sunspot once a day after my morning shower. I would apply chickweed healing salve and cover with 3M micropore tape. I soon had @ 1/4" wide 1/8" deep hole where the small bleeder started. It took about 3 to 4 weeks to knock it out and then it just started healing. Didn't matter if I applied sunspot the cancer was gone and it healed up leaving a slight crater that is healing up nicely..






Edited by - anivoc on 07/16/2008 02:03:46
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Alir2009

1 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2009 :  20:51:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
STAY AWAY FROM CURADERM!!!! It is a scam! I bought it for a suspicious growth that was recurring on my upper arm---in retrospect I do not think it was any form of cancer. I applied the curaderm and it did everything they said, but it did not close. For months I had this wound, they told me to get more, keep applying it etc. I did. In the end I am left with a HUGE grotesque scar that looks much worse than if I had a doctor look at it, biopsy it, take it all out and close it. In fact I am considering a scar revision there it is that bad! It has been a year and it is depigmented, not likely to heal beyond where it is, ugly and very noticeable. Do not be fooled. It is merely flesh eating and yes it does recognise any "unusual" cells be it cancer or a mole or anything that is not a normal growth, but everything that grows on us is not cancerous. Some are moles, skin tags etc. I would not let an enemy try this. Curaderm is a scam!!!!!!
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homestrong

USA
24 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2009 :  22:25:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heirsolo, you seem to be the only one posting on this board who
is convinced of Curaderm's effectiveness.

I guess I have to go with the consensus I read her (as I read
it every day now).

I think I have to believe the words of people who are posting
comments in real time, rather than unidentified people who are
part of these "clinical studies"

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jada

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2009 :  22:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been using curaderm for a week now...it is not true that it reacts the same way to any skin. i was skeptical so i put it on the cancer and i also put it on another place on my face where there is no cancer. the cancer place stung and felt like it was burning - it turned black and the red area became much bigger than the area that was covered by the cream....it is now starting to change to normal skin with some new black spots emerging. the spot that was treated which was cancer free had a very small amount of redness - i treated it 4 times and had minimal response whereas within that many treatments the cancer area had turned black....so far it definitely seems to be working...also, curaderm is specifically formulated - i do not think using a homemade eggplant mixture would compare.
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anivoc

286 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2009 :  23:16:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Homestrong

Dead on the money..Heirsolo comes here and talks down to anyone of us that knows curaderm does not work 100% of the time yet Heirsolo does not claim to have used it him /herself. Nothing but links to curaderm and the PR (a polite word for propaganda)

Then you make the post about how no one else supports curaderm but heirsolo and then 1 time poster Jada appears.

Jada since you've done your research on this site could you please point us to the post that says Curaderm effects any and all skin not just skin cancers. I don't recall ever seeing anyone mention that. I have heard in this comment in regards to bloodroot but not curaderm. Curaderm had no effect on my healthy skin and though it irritated my skin cancer, it never eradicated it. BTW Bloodroot in my own personal experience had no effect on healthy skin but seriously attacked several BCC's I had in one application. Not so with Curaderm. Months and hundreds of dollars invested with nothing but an irritated unkilled bcc. If you follow the curaderm direction I don't see how the treated area turned black being as Curaderm is white and if kept bandaged as instructed the irritated wound won't scab over.
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jada

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2009 :  02:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anivoc,

I was online doing more research and came across this forum...i added my two cents worth because of the skeptical comments...i do not appreciate the cold reception i received.

i do not know for sure if curaderm will work - i am only reporting my progress since i am in the middle of treatment....i find the posts on this forum to be quite negative and suspicious. you said that no-one else had said that it worked so i thought i should say what i think...beside someone named marsha also said she had results...it seems like you are the one trying to push an agenda.

if you read my post again i said that curaderm does not work the same on regular skin as it does on cancer skin...that was my point to someone (Alir) who said that they had the reactions described in the instructions on a suspicious spot that they decided was not cancer (although they don't tell us why they came to that conclusion - clearly they thought it was cancer at some point if they thought to use curaderm on it)...my skin has turned black where the cancer is but not beside it where the regular skin is, even though the cream has been on it too. all of the descriptions in my research talk about the skin turning black so i'm not sure what you are talking about. the cream is white but the area, it turns black from the inside, not like a scab...maybe it just isn't working for you? but so far it is definitely doing something for me....i will post again in a few days when i know more.
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dan

440 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2009 :  00:33:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jada, welcome aboard. I think the underlying frustration is that Curaderm has made claims (with supportive scientific studies) that it is always effective, whereas practically it only seems to work some of the time despite the best efforts of some users. I hope Curaderm works for you and you are able to share your results here.
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jada

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2009 :  08:22:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My spot has now turned white/yellowish and is not so deep a crater - and the area around it has become very red and is eroding. the whole area (and beyond) was very itchy during the night. i'm finding it a difficult process to stay with because it look so awful....i can't imagine the white area becoming healthy tissue because it looks so strange right now....but i keep thinking i might as well not stop now.
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anivoc

286 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2009 :  12:24:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very Sorry Jada.

Could you loan me some salt and pepper for that foot in my mouth...


I sincerely apologize, welcome you to the forum and hope you find what you are looking for here.

The curaderm topic is a sore one with me. I feel the company definitely oversells it's effectiveness and I feel I wasted over $300 on a product that didn't perform as advertised.

As Dan said, I hope Curaderm works for you.

Please accept my apology. I hope collectively we find better ways to deal with skin cancer than the conventional medicine methods used today.


Edited by - anivoc on 04/25/2009 10:43:38
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rpmatson

2 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2009 :  09:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Repeat from another thread:

I used Curaderm myself following the instructions from their team and ended up with a scar of my nose that looks like a shallow crater and the skin has no colour. The patch on my arm filled in nicely but again the skin that grew back has no colour. It has left me facially scarred, and I will need cosmetic surgery to make my nose look normal again.

When I started to use the treatment, I was told by the manager of the marketing company (one of the experts who had been trained to sell the product) to use a plaster with no backing, otherwise the cream would be absorbed by the backing and it would be ineffective. So I followed this advice but the result was that the cream spread much further than the tiny spot I had used. The area of skin eaten away was some 6 times the size of the area I was treating. This whole area is scared and it is obvious.

The FDA has said curaderm is not approved in the US. I also have doubts about the legitimacy and authenticity of the clinical trials. From other sources it appears that the clinical trials are not recorded in the right places.

The people selling Curaderm were non-medical people who did not have the knowledge to sell a treatment for a disease such as skin cancer. I have heard many stories of mis-selling of the product and ordered products not arriving. The Live Chat link to talk to an "expert" was to talk to somebody in a tiny office in Vanuatu with no medical training and basically quoting from the same information on the website.

My advice would be not to be fooled by the stories of hardship and the claims of how good the cream is. Having used the cream myself and been scared I would use another treatment. The way I was just ignored when I followed up on money that I was owed for work I did for them, makes me believe that the directors of Curaderm Global are people with low business ethics. I sent a few emails about the money and I was ignored. This also appears to be a pattern repeated by people who have ordered the product and it has not arrived.

See the links for more info:

Link from the FDA:
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6808c.htm

Other warnings:
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Cancer_Salves.asp?sitearea=ETO

http://www.healthnews.com/alerts-outbreaks/fda-warns-against-internet-sales-fake-cancer-cures-1257.html

And a link that specifically mentions Curaderm as a scam:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4861188_avoid-internet-scams.html

In my honest opinion, this snake oil sold by snakes.
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SueZeQ

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2010 :  23:36:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

The only people who are calling this Curaderm a "scam" are a few people who didn't like the results they got from it. Either it didn't work, or they didn't like the scar it left.

Neither of those outcome means this is a scam. The cream is not supposed to work except on cancer tissue. So if it didn't work for someone, there are three possibilities besides it being a "scam" ... 1) their lesion was not cancer to begin with 2) they didn't use it long enough, often enough, or properly ...OR... they are just one of those people for whom it doesn't work. Even the research tests do not show it 100% effective during the "control / test" period, though perhaps if they used it longer. In once study I read that for those for whom it didn't work during the test period, most DID get a complete cure, it just took longer. Regardless... I don't know of any "cure" that works 100% of the time on 100% of the people who use it. People often have other health conditions (weakened immune systems, etc., that may effect results).

For the idiot that is claiming he called these places in the studies... his description of what happened when he used the cream is exactly in line with what they SAY will happen. That the cream will "eat away" at the cancer, leaving a hole, or crater, that should be filled in with healthy flesh. However there are lots of reasons that someone might not heal up as good as other people and, if they don't, of COURSE it's going to leave a scar. Again, doesn't mean it's a scam, and reading his description did not discourage me from trying it, and while I'm only a few days into it, it seems to be working as described so far.

In my book though... using a cream that costs a hundred bucks or so, is still a better option than having someone cut into you (and possibly having to have plastic surgery after) for perhaps thousands of dollars. Especially since, in the studies done, there was little to no recurrence of the cancer with the cream, yet many people say that they have had cancers come back after surgeries.

Best thing with cream... you can buy one tube... use it, if it is not working as you expect, then simply stop. If it is, buy a second tube and continue on. Worth $100 to try it out, if for curiosity alone.

By the way... you can find the PDF file of the double blind, placebo study here...
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/119389345/PDFSTART

And more papers are listed here... You can usually put the title into google and pull up the actual paper if the PDF is stored online.
http://curaderm.net/research-2.html

And, interestingly... some more right here on Topicalinfo:
http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443

And an article here from another Doctor:
http://ahha.org/SkinCancerCure.htm

And finally... Modified Citrus Pectin has been shown to inhibit cancer growth and can be taken internally. If someone has a persistent problem with cancer.. perhaps a three pronged approach with topical, internal AND boosting of the immune system with probiotics, adaptogenic herbs and medicinal mushrooms would be a protocol to be considered.

Regardless of what someone chooses to do... surgery and drugs, or natural treatments, it is up to each individual person to do their own research, and make their own informed decisions.


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marsha

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2010 :  10:40:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


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18.19 KBThis is a scc I treated with curaderm. I was afraid this hole was going to go all the way through the nose and I was going to have to make it a big piercing. I used curaderm untill it healed itself and then a few days after. Its been 2 years.I have had no other problems with it. If I had to have moes they would have cut the whole nostril out like they did to my mother. So I can live with the scar.

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Notice how it spreading down the side of my noes, to my cheek.
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17.8 KB I dont know what those were, maybe damaged skin, or bsc. These are also during and after curaderm. I kept putting the cream on untill they healed, and a few days after. Then I went to the derm.he said he would not see me while I used curaderm.(I was still treating the top of my nose)So I said well would you just look at the rest of my face and tell me what you think. So he looked and said the rest looked good. Thats all I know. As for the rest of my noes (including previously treated moes. I can"t seem to kick it. It never heals. Its been about 2 years. The curaderm people said use dmso with it. so I did for a while. Now Im trying other things.
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robstan

Australia
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Posted - 07/28/2010 :  02:56:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi I have used curaderm or cansema black salve and yes it really works. But word of warning you should be very careful using it like any ointment. The first day I applied ointment (Sunday) you could tell it was something as the ointment started to bit at it straight away. I kept it covered for 7 days and then changed the dressing, just a clean dressing no ointment, my spot was on my left side of my face right at the bottom of my eyebrow. The whole area puffed up and was quite red and it even affected my eye lid. But you just put up with it. At the end of the second week the area around the spot had gone all white and *****, then when I was changing my dressing the top came off and then the next night the whole centre of the spot came out and left a big flesh red whole big enough to put my little finger in. I kept it covered for another week and a nice clean scab formed at the end of the 4th week I no longer need to keep it covered and I will have very little scaring. The spot itself was like a hard white tick looking thing with a root system underneath.
I am over the moon with the result would recommend this treatment.
Imagine if I had left it how much damage it would have caused on my face and it only took a month to come up I am a massage therapist and mother of three children. Robyn, Queensland, Australia, Gin Gin
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marsha

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2010 :  10:15:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, i'm confused, what did you use? The curaderm or the black salve?
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